So lot's of people are pretty much convinced WW3 has already begun...

Lé.Skiing

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WW3? No way. Russia/US/China are so intertwined with one another it would be beyond stupid to start launching nukes around the world. The cold war era idea of self assured mutual destruction does a hell of a lot to keep any sort of government from launching missiles. Missile defense systems would be pretty effective at shooting down any sort of long range attack. Take a look at Israel's Iron Dome defense system, they can pick up an incoming missile and shoot it out of the sky in a matter of minutes.

IF, and thats a big IF, nukes ever go off anywhere it will be b/c of a terrorist attack using something like an suitcase nuke/dirty bomb.

Then there is Kim, hes a wild card, a bit like a big dog with no bite. No major country will ever side with him and NK would get fucked back to the stoneage.
 
13633156:japanada said:
WW3? No way. Russia/US/China are so intertwined with one another it would be beyond stupid to start launching nukes around the world. The cold war era idea of self assured mutual destruction does a hell of a lot to keep any sort of government from launching missiles. Missile defense systems would be pretty effective at shooting down any sort of long range attack. Take a look at Israel's Iron Dome defense system, they can pick up an incoming missile and shoot it out of the sky in a matter of minutes.

IF, and thats a big IF, nukes ever go off anywhere it will be b/c of a terrorist attack using something like an suitcase nuke/dirty bomb.

Then there is Kim, hes a wild card, a bit like a big dog with no bite. No major country will ever side with him and NK would get fucked back to the stoneage.

Yah, I have my own personal doubts. However reading the Nostradamus prediction is that it will be like a war we have never witnessed before. With new technology and different types of biological warfare.

Check this link:
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/Nostradamus/05.html

Hopefully this gets averted, but it is a possibility.
 
It's more or a less a cold war in my opinion. Russia and America are fighting each other through a bunch of proxy wars but will never go to war with each other. They'd be stupid too.
 
13633172:Lé.Skiing said:
Yah, I have my own personal doubts. However reading the Nostradamus prediction is that it will be like a war we have never witnessed before. With new technology and different types of biological warfare.

Check this link:
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/Nostradamus/05.html

Hopefully this gets averted, but it is a possibility.

Please keep following your personal doubts!! Have you read any of the other 'prophecies'? Hell Im at part 3 and there is talk about the Soviets underwater sub base getting destroyed, aliens getting attacked by humans causing microbes to be released, hell there is a prediction of a massive meteorite strike happening before WW3 as described in his part 5.

Im all for my conspiracy theories and out there propaganda, but that sir, is redic. On par with the bible or scientology. Its full of misunderstandings and mistranslations. People will always read into it more to suit their needs and thoughts.

I understand people that fear for the future of the world, but please stick to at least half-way true facts...ones that were based at least in the past century or two.
 
the first result is from the huffington post LOL. russia and china are in horrible economic states right now and the rest of the developed world would be agaist them if they tried anything, literally nothing is going to happen.
 
13633212:japanada said:
Please keep following your personal doubts!! Have you read any of the other 'prophecies'? Hell Im at part 3 and there is talk about the Soviets underwater sub base getting destroyed, aliens getting attacked by humans causing microbes to be released, hell there is a prediction of a massive meteorite strike happening before WW3 as described in his part 5.

Im all for my conspiracy theories and out there propaganda, but that sir, is redic. On par with the bible or scientology. Its full of misunderstandings and mistranslations. People will always read into it more to suit their needs and thoughts.

I understand people that fear for the future of the world, but please stick to at least half-way true facts...ones that were based at least in the past century or two.

Yah, you are right. I just think it's interesting that it mentions the middle east. Right now there is trouble in the middle east. That's pretty much the only point I was trying to make by posting it.

I know it would be stupid for the world to start a war with each other now... but Trump is also in the running to be president. He's so dumb it's scary.

Don't get me wrong I have faith that the American people aren't going to elect a complete moron, but you know George W. Bush was president... twice.. lol

The only person I like in the presidential race is Bernie, but I mean everyone lies when they are running to be president. So I guess we are just going to have to keep positive thoughts about it and wait to see what happens.

Probably won't see a world war 3, but even a 10% chance is a chance. I mean it's highly unlikely, but there's still a chance. hahaha

[video]https://youtu.be/TCKOI24k_UY[/video]
 
The fact of the matter is essentially this.

There will be no WW3, due to the fact mentioned before of mutually assured destruction. The wars now, really are proxy wars, cyber attacks (highly complex issue) and terrorist attacks.

I could go in to details, but the fact of MAD is in all entirety, the simplest reason why such a thing will never occur
 
This shit all started from a sandwich. Gavrilo Princip decided to get a bite to eat after all the failed attempts at assassinating Franz Ferdinand and then Franz went right by the restraunt that Princip was in. Franz got killed, starting WW!, the Germans sucked ass: starting WWII, the Russians became dicks: starting the Cold War, the cold war started the war in Iraq and now there is some crazy shit thanks to Iraw. So thank you to that sandwich.
 
13634280:skierman said:
Proxy War....

good lord there's a lot of stupid in this thread.

Aye at least u got what I meant. WeMre latterly seeding wars & having hen fought on other lands with other govermental who aren't that land because humans are dumb as fuck, as I wonderfully illustrated.
 
13634288:safarisam said:
Aye at least u got what I meant. WeMre latterly seeding wars & having hen fought on other lands with other govermental who aren't that land because humans are dumb as fuck, as I wonderfully illustrated.

That was hard to read
 
Definition of war: "a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state."

Isis is not a nation state or even a group within our state. Also definition of worldwar: "a war involving many large nations in all different parts of the world. The name is commonly given to the wars of 1914–18 and 1939–45, although only the second of these was truly global." There isn't even a country backing isis, let alone a superpower. Seriously the iran getting nuclear issue is more of a war.
 
13633226:SFB said:
the first result is from the huffington post LOL. russia and china are in horrible economic states right now and the rest of the developed world would be agaist them if they tried anything, literally nothing is going to happen.

The one advantage China and Russia have is I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give a fuck about civilian casualties on either side.
 
WW3 is not going to happen. Even if it does, the US is unbeatable unless the whole world burns with it. We have the worlds largest military by far, dominate the sea, the air and space. We also have these nice things called very large oceans separating us from any potential threat. Any troop ship, plane or missle would be sitting at the bottom of the ocean before it got within hundreds of miles of our coast.

I have my doubts that even if the world teamed up on the US, the combined power of the world couldn't take them down due to the oceans and our dominance.

Im not some "USA number one long time fan boy", but it's just reality.
 
13635480:DBack1321 said:
WW3 is not going to happen. Even if it does, the US is unbeatable unless the whole world burns with it. We have the worlds largest military by far, dominate the sea, the air and space. We also have these nice things called very large oceans separating us from any potential threat. Any troop ship, plane or missle would be sitting at the bottom of the ocean before it got within hundreds of miles of our coast.

I have my doubts that even if the world teamed up on the US, the combined power of the world couldn't take them down due to the oceans and our dominance.

Im not some "USA number one long time fan boy", but it's just reality.

In a hypothetical WW3 we are all fucked expect for some Pacific Islanders.

As said above it's mutual assured destruction.

There's no bloody troops, or place and time to dominate sea, air and definitely not space.

It will be ICBM's waving at each other whilst doing Mach 25+.

The defence against that is rather, non-existent, the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense doesn't really work, look it up.

And we can say many things about the Russian military, that they still use AK's and everything is outdated but the one thing those potato eating commies can do is making rockets. Big rockets, small rockets. Rockets with added rockets to shoot of rocket powered positioning nose cones. The Soyuz has been more reliable then the space shuttle, Lockheed uses Russian rocket engines and to put lightweight satellites in space they use their big ICBM sans warhead.

WIII will not be fought as a traditional war. There's no need to be a USA number one fanboy. We will all die, it's just reality.
 
13734299:GORILLAWALLACE said:
you mean cold war II?

also how valid is that source and why is ns the first place I'm seeing it^?

I dunno how credible it is. I don't know if it really has begun, but there are a lot of websites saying WW3 is coming. I don't know how credible it is, but that's only because the whole world has to be at war and right now I only know of a handful of countries in conflicts.
 
13734327:Lé.Skiing said:
I dunno how credible it is. I don't know if it really has begun, but there are a lot of websites saying WW3 is coming. I don't know how credible it is, but that's only because the whole world has to be at war and right now I only know of a handful of countries in conflicts.

My CBRN buddy said that at AIT he learned that Russia has much bigger and many more nukes than we do. So ww3 should be a real quickie.
 
13734334:JAHpow said:
My CBRN buddy said that at AIT he learned that Russia has much bigger and many more nukes than we do. So ww3 should be a real quickie.

Haha it's not that simple. And even if it was, our smallest nukes are literally hundreds of times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb.

It's about tactical survivability and reliability.

Our navy is better, our nukes better protected and more reliable, and we have ground and sea based nukes surrounding both China and Russia. That said, if one of the big 3 fires a nuke in anger, it's game over for the earth. MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction. It's what keeps the peace and will continue keeping the peace. Everyone who is sane knows there is no survivable scenario.
 
13734391:californiagrown said:
Haha it's not that simple. And even if it was, our smallest nukes are literally hundreds of times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb.

It's about tactical survivability and reliability.

Our navy is better, our nukes better protected and more reliable, and we have ground and sea based nukes surrounding both China and Russia. That said, if one of the big 3 fires a nuke in anger, it's game over for the earth. MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction. It's what keeps the peace and will continue keeping the peace. Everyone who is sane knows there is no survivable scenario.

Well obviously there's more to it. Good thing we have missile defense systems just in case.

In all reality, if any sort of "ww3" happens it's going to be directed at Israel initially and then we'll get involved.
 
13734398:JAHpow said:
Well obviously there's more to it. Good thing we have missile defense systems just in case.

In all reality, if any sort of "ww3" happens it's going to be directed at Israel initially and then we'll get involved.

I agree. I think the 3rd nuke ever used in anger will be used on south korea... at which point north korea will become a large crater the next day due to russia, china, and america conventional bombing it in a theraputic release of tensions.

But then Iran will become jealous of the Big Guns' circle jerk and want to show they belong at the big kids table too. With a revitalized economy, but a shut down nuke program they will show the world what a power they can be using their many "terrorist" proxy groups. Thanks to Trump's pledge to make Saudi Arabia a nuclear power, one of the saudi's nukes will somehow find its way into one of those proxy goups where it will be detonated into Tel Aviv. At which point America bombs iran which has a treaty with Russia, russia then fully invades ukraine and syria. We draw a line in the sand and say they have 1 week to get out. 6 days later, china seizes the opportunity and invades all of the south china sea, including the phillipenes. All of a sudden its WWII all over again with us fighting a war on 2 fronts. Where it will devolve at some point into nuclear war when conventional bombardments of all three home countries scares the citizentry into saying that you dont want to lose your country without playing your last card.
 
Ww3 would be terrible for everyone who owns nukes (major world powers) meaning everyone is too pussy to launch nukes.
 
13633156:japanada said:
WW3? No way. Russia/US/China are so intertwined with one another it would be beyond stupid to start launching nukes around the world. The cold war era idea of self assured mutual destruction does a hell of a lot to keep any sort of government from launching missiles. Missile defense systems would be pretty effective at shooting down any sort of long range attack. Take a look at Israel's Iron Dome defense system, they can pick up an incoming missile and shoot it out of the sky in a matter of minutes.

IF, and thats a big IF, nukes ever go off anywhere it will be b/c of a terrorist attack using something like an suitcase nuke/dirty bomb.

Then there is Kim, hes a wild card, a bit like a big dog with no bite. No major country will ever side with him and NK would get fucked back to the stoneage.

Some psycho anarchist with the resources to get a hold of heavy weaponry needs to scare the shit out of kim and kick him off his high horse.
 
Why does everyone immediately assume someone is going to use a nuclear weapon? There are so many legitimate concerns right now, daily steps toward igniting the powder keg, but this thread is just about nuclear missiles?
 
13735322:Dustin. said:
Why does everyone immediately assume someone is going to use a nuclear weapon? There are so many legitimate concerns right now, daily steps toward igniting the powder keg, but this thread is just about nuclear missiles?

Do you think wwIII will involve a nuclear strike at any point?
 
13735633:californiagrown said:
Do you think wwIII will involve a nuclear strike at any point?

I don't think anyone but the most insane of rogue terrorists will ever have anything to gain from using nuclear weapons in this day and age.
 
13735662:Dustin. said:
I don't think anyone but the most insane of rogue terrorists will ever have anything to gain from using nuclear weapons in this day and age.

You think Pakistan would let itself be taken over by India without using a nuke as it's last resort?

I think there would be a couple countries that would use nukes as their final option.
 
WW3, I don't think so. I think this is Russia's attempt to use military industry to stimulate their economy, as well as boost nationalism. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Russia engage in a full ground war in Syria or a surrounding region. As a result this would probably escalate the current tensions to cold war status like we expired decades ago.

Full on WW3 is possible but I believe it would take some sort of major unsettling within a major superpower.
 
13735702:californiagrown said:
You think Pakistan would let itself be taken over by India without using a nuke as it's last resort?

I think there would be a couple countries that would use nukes as their final option.

I'd rather be Indian than dead.
 
13735752:californiagrown said:
so why fight back at all when your country is invaded?

You're right, let's get some nukes in the air. Nations in the very recent past have reacted exactly as you are describing, but you say it like it's abnormal.
 
If the media ever talks about North Korea, find out what they aren't telling you. North Korea hype is a distraction.

Also, Wikileaks docs:

https://i.redd.it/8eajmte1gurx.jpg

https://i.sli.mg/Y3cBg5.png

Pretty much we have a candidate that committed treason.

And when it comes to WW3, tensions and actions are not based on morality. The US could care less about eradicating ISIS, we literally could give two shits. There are no good guys in geopolitics and I have an IQ of 30 and understand this.

War comes down to geopolitical agendas with a mingling of religious ideologies, proxy armies and corporate exploitation. In the most general sentience, Assad and Syria proposed the 2011 Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline which would allow Iran to supply gas to Europe. Qatar and the US did not like this. Qatar proposed an alternative, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, which would run straight through Aleppo, eventually making its way into Europe. Assad opposed this proposition and Russia dissuaded Qatar from making a deal. Syria is also Russia's strategic ally, hence losing this landmass would be detrimental. Prolonging secular Assad is necessary to perpetuate Russia's natural gas dominance in Europe as well as keep hold of a strategic geographical hot spot and defense point.

The US supports the alternative Qatar-Turkey pipeline that Assad and Russia oppose. This is why the US is so keen on overthrowing the legitimate government in Syria. Regional destabilization in and around government strongholds is necessary for ousting leaders. So I wouldn't doubt that US allies are covertly funding ISIS and proxy armies and/or covertly assassinating Russians, Iranians and Syrians close to Assad. Likewise, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have been caught in the past trafficking weapons into Syria. Turkey also believes that this pipeline would diversify its own gas supplies away from Russian energy.

Then you have Saudi Arabia funding radical Sunni groups in Syria. Again, I wouldn't doubt that the bulk or rather inception of these rebellions dubbed "the Arab Spring" power grab were largely geopolitically instigated. Though, I don't deny the dissatisfaction of rule of governments and the pressure caused by the Recession. Still, NATO countries supported the uprising, which can be tracked back to funding by NED (National Endowment for Democracy). And just after the Arab Spring the Saudi's increased oil production and aggressively offered low oil prices to grab market share.

This is just a quote;

"Qatar's involvement in the Syrian civil war was based in part on its desire to build a pipeline to Turkey through Syria: The discovery in 2009 of a new gas field near Israel, Lebanon, Cyprus, and Syria opened new possibilities to bypass the Saudi Barrier and to secure a new source of income. Pipelines are in place already in Turkey to receive the gas. Only Al-Assad stands in the way."

"Syria's rationale for rejecting the Qatar proposal was said to be "to protect the interests of [its] Russian ally, wSo the alternative to the Qatar-Turkey pipeline which had been proposed by Qatar to run from Qatar to Europe is the

Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline."

And everyone already knows about the clash between the Sunni's, Shiites and ISIS wanting to engender a Salafist state.

Picking a side in a geopolitical war is the wrong way to go. Look at things objectively and understand that superpowers use fear and suffering to maintain their agenda. Doesn't matter if it's Russia or Syria bombing rebel neighborhoods, the US bombing hospitals or Saudi's bombing funerals, they will continue to fight, kill and blame their opponent. It's basically a circle jerk of lies, deceit, suffering and propaganda. The point is that we are told what they want us to think and feel. Media saturation campaigns rely on emotional drivel and sensationalized images to force us into a biased, egocentric way of thinking. That, so they can continue exploiting without any blow back. Remember, the eyes do not see what the mind does not know.
 
13735322:Dustin. said:
Why does everyone immediately assume someone is going to use a nuclear weapon? There are so many legitimate concerns right now, daily steps toward igniting the powder keg, but this thread is just about nuclear missiles?

Didn't you hear, Trump himself gave Putin depleted Uranium in exchange for a lesson on how to program JavaScript and hack Clinton emails
 
13633199:S.J.W said:
It's more or a less a cold war in my opinion. Russia and America are fighting each other through a bunch of proxy wars but will never go to war with each other. They'd be stupid too.

Exactly.
 
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