Snowboarder Hits Kid on Skis>Kid's Dad Hits Snowboarder With Kid's Ski

I agree the snowboarder was at fault. As for why they were stopped in the middle of the run, no one has considered the likelihood that the kid had fallen and had gotten up? Maybe he didn't fall, but it's possible he literally came to unintentional stop as a result of a heavy wedge turn. I see kids all day who are "continuously skiing" that frequently stop or nearly stop as their turning halts their modest momentum.

One thing though. Looking uphill before starting does not only apply to trail mergers. If I stop on a run, to the side, or smack in the middle, it is my responsibility to look uphill before I continue to ski.

I think the real issue is that the snowboarder had time to recognize the situation developing. If you watch closely, even if the small kid he hit wasn't there, he would've run over the back of the guys skis or at least been ridiculously close to colliding with him. Yes, that little girl made an unpredictable hard right and pinched the rider, but he could made a hard right turn himself and went around the dad, or just hit the brakes and stopped. He had been riding alongside that girl for the majority of that run. Anyone knows who skis that if you stay close to a young inexperienced skier, you're basically putting yourself in a bad situation. He should've passed her sooner, or fell back and given space. It's like driving alongside a drunk driver for a a couple of miles. You've watched him swerve all over and make questionable choices, so why the fuck would you continue to drive alongside him?
 
This brings back memories from my early childhood with my parents and my friends parents ripping guys a new asshole for running into their little kids
 
The snowboarder was trying to not hit the first person by sticking out his arm so they wouldnt hit. After that it was just unfortunate how the whole situation played.
 
I've been skiing all my life. Never crashed into anyone like that. But it could happen.

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After rewatching the video a few times and reading the thread, I agree with El Gato's testimony on the first page. Those screenshots tell all.

Plus, everyone keeps saying that it looks like the dad was stopped on the hill. It looks like to me the dad was just behind his kid while they skied extremely slow.
 
Well this thread is irritating to read. Notice how the kid doesn't start crying until the father flips shit?

Also, this wasn't exactly an easily avoidable situation. I mean the kid popped out at the last second, it's clear as day. I got hit by some asshole who was truly out of control when I was like 9, shit sucks.
 
This.

A ski slope is like a road, except everyone thinks they have the right of way... (and kids teach their kids who dont know their own way that they are always in the right)
 
Ya the dad shouldn't have hit the guy but are you guys all such horrible skiers that you couldn't have been in control and not hit the kid (and almost the little girl) in the first place? You can't defend the boarder just because someone did something equally idiotic in return. It doesn't nullify the fact that he was playing Gaper Gates with some kids and apparently isn't a good enough rider to handle a crowded blue.

If you are one of the people blaming the kid and the dad for being there, you are a shitty skier. Seriously, it's an easy fucking groomer and you'd be stupid to NOT expect less experienced people to do stuff like this.
 
Ya no shit. If you take a line with no outs left, right, or with any ability to slow down you're just banking on it being clear the whole way. This is shit I'd explain to a 10 year old, not an adult. Skiing on groomers safely is FUCKING EASY PEOPLE.
 
The snowboarder was at fault but jesus, aren't adults supposed to act like adults? Having a hissy fit on the slopes gets you no where. When I was first learning to ski I was hit by a snowboarder traveling at a good speed. He stopped, apologized to me and my parents then his buddy went and got ski patrol. My parents had a very calm conversation with him (since I was too young to know what the hell was going on) and everything was resolved. That is how adults should handle these situations, acting like a six year old kid in front of you kid sure as hell is not helping him in any way and you're sure as hell aren't going to resolve anything by hitting someone else and scaring him away. It matters whose at fault however I think the dad should be criticized just as heavily for being an irrational douche.
 
Dunno I think its mostly the fucktard fathers fault since he could have prevented everything. Don't stop with your kid there moron. Don't hit another kid.

Snowboarder hit him avoiding another kid pizzaing irresponsibly. Shit happens. This is like a car accident where the blame is 50-50.

The people blaming the snowboarder clearly must never ski faster than little kids pizzaing across the entire run. I've never hit one but it could happen in a situation like this.
 
It did not appear to me they were stopped on the trail. You even stated the little kid was piazzing irresponsibly. You mean learning how to ski. The father was behind the kid who was learning. That is normal. The father's response was not thought out but that is because he was pissed his kid just got trainwrecked by a boarder.
 
no matter what, the boarder didn't hit anybody on purpose, and the dad did. the dad's a flaming douche and deserves a pole in the cock.
 
I know. But they apparently had gone from being stopped to moving at just the wrong time.

Which is where the irresponsibility lies the dad has to push his kid to keep going until there is an appropriate place to stop where the chances of getting hit aren't way higher.

If a kid is stationary hes avoidable, if hes moving he's avoidable too but going from stopped to starting on the busiest place on the mountain bears responsibility on the dad (although its hard to predict when they will turn and how far to the edge of the trail you're going to need to be to make sure to not hit them.)

The dad is 30-40% responsible for his kid getting hit. The rest is on the snowboarder but he was not out of control and was reacting to another gaper little kid.

Just bad luck IMO.
 
Girl in blue coat on the left at 4:15 kinda did a bad turn which made it so the snow boarder couldn't go left at all. Then boarder tried to go right... couldn't tried to shoot the gap between dad and skier and then a little kid comes out of know where and moves a yard, shuts the gap down and collision.

Guy didn't mean to do it at all and was if he didn't get sorta cut off by the skier and the kid wasn't hidden it would have been okay.

Dad on the other hand just has his kid get hit by ??130 lbs?? going pretty fast. He could have like you know not hit the boarder and picked up his kid instead of getting pissed.
 
this is the dads fault, don't take your kids down runs which they are not competent with, and ensure your kids know the rules of the mountain and the kid wasn't crying til the dad started yelling so obviously the kid felt distraught by his dad yelling also the snowboarder was sincere in his apology and stopped straight away to see if the kid was alright. gapers gonna gape
 
That guy was so out of control, he almost hit two kids. It's the downhill skier's right of way unless the downhill skier is merging, in which case he/she must look uphill and yield to oncoming skiers. In any case, he took a stupid line, was going too fast on a crowded trail, and was clearly out of control, almost hitting two people. How are you not out of control and you hit a stationary target?

That being said, the dad's reaction was COMPLETELY unjustified. Shit happens asshole, go check to see if your kid is alright. I get that your kid is the most important thing in the world to you, but there are other people in the real world, dumbass. Hitting the snowboarder was completely unjustified. It was an accident and he apologized.
 
Again, yes and no. The downhill skier has the responsibility of looking uphill when merging, but this does not preclude the uphill skier from the responsibility of being able to avoiding a collision.

The fact that so many people think "boarder tried to shoot the gap, the kid closed it off, shit happens" is boggling. If the boarder hadn't tried to shoot the damn gap to begin with, we wouldn't be here.
 
what I'm trying to say is that the dad should look uphill before letting his kid, who doesn't know to look uphill before going sideways, come out of his shadow. what happens after the hit is just wrong, but that's another story.I agree both are at fault. boarder should have just slowed down. If I have to pick between "being less cool" and "hit some kid and possibly got hit by a dad", I pick the former any day.
 
I am a parent of a 5 year old too, I understand the dads anger... But his reaction to hit the boarder was wrong, no matter the age difference, even if they were both grown adults, was still wrong . HOWEVER, ALL blame and fault of accident is the boarders fault . It is a slow skiing zone, ski in control, there is absolutely no reason the boarder should have gotten that close to either rider. Uphill traffic must ALWAYS yield to downhill traffic !
 
Hate to say it but it's completely the skiers fault. The dad is stopped right in the middle of the slope and sends his son off before looking up to see what's coming. The dad was an arsehole, the snowboarder really didn't mean it.
 
It looked like to me that the little kid was just going really slow with the dad behind her for safety. Getting a ski lesson...
 
The kid was not stationary.

He was skiing extremely slowly. He was an easy target to avoid. The fact that the father was standing above him does not absolve the snowboarder's responsibility to avoid what's below him.

Also the snowboarder narrowly missed another skier and narrowly missed hitting the father before hitting the kid. This evidence shows that he was clearly not riding in control.

Of course the father had no right to hit the snowboarder afterwards.

The snowboarder left the scene of a ski accident (which is not allowed) but he was also being attacked by the father so I think this is a justifiable reason to leave.

 
I agree with everyone else so far, they were both at fault here. The snowboarder could have went to the right side of the dad, especially after narrowly missing another skier. Instead he tried to shoot the gap and ended up hitting the child. On the other hand, the dad shouldn't have had his kid right in the middle, but we have no information as to why the kid was in the middle, he could have fallen and he may had just started skiing again after getting up. The dad had no right to hit the snowboarder though, that was stupid. I respect the snowboarder for asking the kid if he was alright. All in all, a bad situation for everybody.
 
Seriously the responses in this thread are pretty shocking...

"Collisions are bound to happen,"

"It was just an accident"

"It was the little kids/dads fault"

And Mr. Huck I don't really believe you would have gotten physical with someone if they hit your kid. You just seem more level headed than that.

But really, If you were on that trail and you saw that girl (that he admittedly put a hand on her shoulder)would you get that close to her? I thought he was going to hit her originally before he even got that close to her just with how he was riding. He should have gone wide around or slowed down before he even had to put his hand on that girl.

And whoever said he stuck around, he should have stayed until the kid was up and had his skis on, or patrol had come. You can't just slide down on your ass turn around and ask if the person is okay and then ski off, you gotta wait. I suppose you can't really blame the kid for riding off though when the dad was throwing punches at him etc.

Also, I'm not defending the dads actions after the collision, cus he was clearly out of line, but the snowboarder could have done loads to avoid that collision and didn't. Also, the dad wouldn't have known that this kid was 17, so you can't really blame him for going after a minor. Hitting anyone isn't cool but he obviously didn't have a way to know the snowboarder was under 18.
 
bunch of fuckin dingus's absolutely flying down a green run.ends up running some kid over.

sure it was an accident, sure he felt bad an apologized.

but seriously, what the fuck are you doing going that fast and that out of control on a very crowded green run in the first place??
 
the father should know better than to take his kids down a run they are not competent with. Also you can't be sued for an incident on a ski hill, only if it was intentional while the father would get assault with a weapon
 
that was epic. Did anyone else notice that the kid wasn't screaming until his dad went all apeshit? Not saying the kid wasn't going to cry, but ironic that he starts flipping out after his dad loses his cool

This kids dad=bad parent. What kind of example is that?

One more reason I never want to have kids. Once people are parents, they lose their calm. I'm almost 28 and getting married, told my fiancee about this video and yea.. fuck that kid stuff!
 
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