Skis best for progression

[Tylerth]

So I know a lot of people post threads about park skis they want to buy, and I know they get a lot of hate, but I live in the Midwest and there is not a ski shop that is close that I can go to for advice, and I’m the first in my family to get into park skiing, so even when I look online, I have a hard time figuring out what is best for me as I have little to no knowledge about skis in general. So with nobody to seek for personalized help I seek you guys.

Im 14 almost 15 and began skiing two years ago. My first year I focused on getting down the hill alive. This year, on my all mountain skis, I got into park. I learned 180s can hit most jumps at my Midwest resort, and can 50 50 boxes as well as slide the small ones. I’m 5,9 135 lbs still growing. I’m looking for a durable ski that is gonna aid me in learning rails and dialing in bigger spins and inverts. I’m not gonna be all that worried about all mtn. Help would be appreciated thx.

 

[SchizoSkier]

Revolt 95 cuz it’s hella cheap and forgiving and nobody will give you shit for riding them and not being that good yet

 

[Tylerth]

Revolt 95 cuz it’s hella cheap and forgiving and nobody will give you shit for riding them and not being that good yet

Yea, I’m not really worried about what people think, and to be completely honest, some of the judgement that goes on in skiing just over your gear is stupid. But back to the topic, is that the only ski to consider or are there other options that fit my needs. I just want multiple options so that I can narrow down what I want. Thanks for the quick response btw!

 

[Pakanaka]

ON3P Mango 100

 

[SchizoSkier]

Yea, I’m not really worried about what people think, and to be completely honest, some of the judgement that goes on in skiing just over your gear is stupid. But back to the topic, is that the only ski to consider or are there other options that fit my needs. I just want multiple options so that I can narrow down what I want. Thanks for the quick response btw!

They’re a mid flex, wide-ish ski (for park) and super cheap and fairly durable

 

[SellMeYourArmada]

I'd recommend the Line Honey Badger or the Volkl Revolt 90. If you're looking for something a little more, I would get this year's Armada ARV- the ARV 88 if you want a true park ski, or the ARV 94 if you want something more all-mountain. And if you really want to drop some cash and get one ski to do it all, get the Armada Edollo- it's a blast no matter where you are on the mountain (that's what I ski).

 

[Tylerth]

I'd recommend the Line Honey Badger or the Volkl Revolt 90. If you're looking for something a little more, I would get this year's Armada ARV- the ARV 88 if you want a true park ski, or the ARV 94 if you want something more all-mountain. And if you really want to drop some cash and get one ski to do it all, get the Armada Edollo- it's a blast no matter where you are on the mountain (that's what I ski).

Any tips for sizing, especially on the edollo, cuz it jumps from 172-180. It’s on sale rn.

 

[squidwardz]

Any tips for sizing, especially on the edollo, cuz it jumps from 172-180. It’s on sale rn.

172 since your 175cm and beginner

 

[TournevisRond]

Any tips for sizing, especially on the edollo, cuz it jumps from 172-180. It’s on sale rn.

180 fs

 

[Kyguyy]

Learned a lot on my ON3Ps

 

[Tylerth]

Is the durability on edollos good, and do they hold up on jumps stability wise?

 

[Liamsasd]

Is the durability on edollos good, and do they hold up on jumps stability wise?

Good skis but the durability on them is meh compared to others

 

[Newsheepers]

Revolt 95 cuz it’s hella cheap and forgiving and nobody will give you shit for riding them and not being that good yet

To back this up they're 250 on corbetts and aren't too soft and not too stiff, they also look sick

 

[SchizoSkier]

Is the durability on edollos good, and do they hold up on jumps stability wise?

They are insanely good on jumps and feel extremely stable on both forward and switch landings because they’re pretty stiff. The durability is kinda shit mine blew up in less than 15 days.

 

[SellMeYourArmada]

I would get the 172, you may need new skis in the next 2-3 years if you hit another growth spurt but if you intend to do park skiing often you're skis will get beat up and you'll need new ones down the road anyways.

Any tips for sizing, especially on the edollo, cuz it jumps from 172-180. It’s on sale rn.

 

[SellMeYourArmada]

That doesn't sound right. I've had 2017 Al Dente Zeros (the Al Dente was the original Edollo) since Fall 2016 and I've put over 100 days on them (over 2M vertical feet), and they are just now starting to split. My brother has the 2020 Edollos, he's 6'4" 190 and he's been using them for 3 years with no issues, you might've got unlucky.

What environment were you using them in?- and what year did you buy?

They are insanely good on jumps and feel extremely stable on both forward and switch landings because they’re pretty stiff. The durability is kinda shit mine blew up in less than 15 days.

 

[SellMeYourArmada]

Definitely, don't listen to anyone that says otherwise.

If you're skiing park you're always going to have issues with your skis eventually, it's part of the game- especially if you're hitting rails and boxes. If you don't hit rails and use them strictly for jumps and all-mountain skiing they will last you until you've outgrown them, trust me.

Another important question is how do you want your bindings mounted?-

If you plan on skiing mostly park (or if you just like skiing switch), I would consider mounting your skis at the true center of your ski.

If you want to be able to go hit some powder of if you like to be all over the mountain, I would mount them a couple inches back- that way you don't have to lean backseat as much if you find yourself on steeper runs with deep snow.

This all depends on your location and what type of skiing you plan on doing.

Is the durability on edollos good, and do they hold up on jumps stability wise?

 

[SellMeYourArmada]

At the end of the day, you could probably get any ski as long as it fits this criteria:

1). A true twin tip ski

2). Has mostly camber (some rocker is fine)

3). Has a waist equal to or less than 96mm.

4). For your size, skis around 168-172cm (or up to 175cm if you want something you can grow into)

and you'll be good to go

 

[SchizoSkier]

That doesn't sound right. I've had 2017 Al Dente Zeros (the Al Dente was the original Edollo) since Fall 2016 and I've put over 100 days on them (over 2M vertical feet), and they are just now starting to split. My brother has the 2020 Edollos, he's 6'4" 190 and he's been using them for 3 years with no issues, you might've got unlucky.

What environment were you using them in?- and what year did you buy?

I ski strictly park, at copper (every feature is huge) and I’m 6 foot 170 lbs. to be fair the first 5 days I was on them I was learning 4 ons and going pretty big. There’s also 7+ edge cracks. I also do a fair amount of 2 ons which I think could contribute to my sidewall dying quickly. My first day on the dollos was March 25 th of this year. I also detuned the shit out of them

 

[Tylerth]

Definitely, don't listen to anyone that says otherwise.

If you're skiing park you're always going to have issues with your skis eventually, it's part of the game- especially if you're hitting rails and boxes. If you don't hit rails and use them strictly for jumps and all-mountain skiing they will last you until you've outgrown them, trust me.

Another important question is how do you want your bindings mounted?-

If you plan on skiing mostly park (or if you just like skiing switch), I would consider mounting your skis at the true center of your ski.

If you want to be able to go hit some powder of if you like to be all over the mountain, I would mount them a couple inches back- that way you don't have to lean backseat as much if you find yourself on steeper runs with deep snow.

This all depends on your location and what type of skiing you plan on doing.

I’m probably gonna go true center or pretty close to it. I’m not crazy worried about the durability, as I’m not as aggressive as a lot of these guys and don’t weigh as much as them. Plus I can get them for a good price now. I just don’t see the point at my level to justify buying somthing as expensive as on3p when I could get a ski like this on sale for $450. Hopefully these are my ticket to continue improving in park. Btw quick question will an actual park ski make all of these tricks I learned easier, and the ones I will be learning easier, as the past two years I have been on all mtn. skis?

 

[GYRO_LTD]

They are insanely good on jumps and feel extremely stable on both forward and switch landings because they’re pretty stiff. The durability is kinda shit mine blew up in less than 15 days.

Bro dollos are not stiff and hold up really good. Only issue is the sidewall sometimes which you just epoxy. I have two pairs with 100+ days on them and some street. They both have no delams or edge ripping out only issue is the sidewall cracked on one but I epoxied it. What happened to yours?

 

[LOOK_at_me]

 

[Tylerth]

Guys I’ve been browsing eco and also found arv 86 and k2 poachers along with the edollos I was talking about. Are rather of these worth considering. The arv 86 are a bit cheaper too. They are only $315 right now!

 

[SellMeYourArmada]

The ARV 86 is an awesome ski. I have an older version of it from 2008 before the ARV series existed, it has close to the same dimensions and it rips so hard. I've been thinking of getting either the ARV 86 or the ARV 88 for next season.

Guys I’ve been browsing eco and also found arv 86 and k2 poachers along with the edollos I was talking about. Are rather of these worth considering. The arv 86 are a bit cheaper too. They are only $315 right now!

 

[Tylerth]

The ARV 86 is an awesome ski. I have an older version of it from 2008 before the ARV series existed, it has close to the same dimensions and it rips so hard. I've been thinking of getting either the ARV 86 or the ARV 88 for next season.

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Is it better than the Edollo tho?

 

[SchizoSkier]

Is it better than the Edollo tho?

Edollos wider and a little bit softer

 

[Tylerth]

Edollos wider and a little bit softer

So the arv is better for more techs tricks? And also what about durability comparison?

 

[SchizoSkier]

So the arv is better for more techs tricks? And also what about durability comparison?

The durability is about the same. ARV might be a little better for super tech stuff cause it s a little bit narrower

 

[Tylerth]

The durability is about the same. ARV might be a little better for super tech stuff cause it s a little bit narrower

I’ve decided on the arv, last question, 170 or 177?

 

[SchizoSkier]

I’ve decided on the arv, last question, 170 or 177?

Longer usually is better

 

[Misfitmonkey]

Misfit skis

So I know a lot of people post threads about park skis they want to buy, and I know they get a lot of hate, but I live in the Midwest and there is not a ski shop that is close that I can go to for advice, and I’m the first in my family to get into park skiing, so even when I look online, I have a hard time figuring out what is best for me as I have little to no knowledge about skis in general. So with nobody to seek for personalized help I seek you guys.

Im 14 almost 15 and began skiing two years ago. My first year I focused on getting down the hill alive. This year, on my all mountain skis, I got into park. I learned 180s can hit most jumps at my Midwest resort, and can 50 50 boxes as well as slide the small ones. I’m 5,9 135 lbs still growing. I’m looking for a durable ski that is gonna aid me in learning rails and dialing in bigger spins and inverts. I’m not gonna be all that worried about all mtn. Help would be appreciated thx.

 

[WoFIowz]

I’ve decided on the arv, last question, 170 or 177?

170 easy

I personally love bigger skis and anyone who rides short skis is a pussy. However in this case I'd probably say go 170. You mentioned you are focusing on rails and spins so shorter should give you more maneuverability. Longer is gonna have more swing weight possibly making things more challenging but will have more stability for landings and at speed; probably not a huge benefit tho. Also consider if you're hitting rails the majority of the time, these will get trashed and be dead in a year or two. At that point you can get longer skis if desired. My brother rode 166cm skis all mountain until a couple years ago. He's 6'2" lol. It's not the end of the world and shorter might be better for your progression up front.

 

[Tylerth]

170 easy

I personally love bigger skis and anyone who rides short skis is a pussy. However in this case I'd probably say go 170. You mentioned you are focusing on rails and spins so shorter should give you more maneuverability. Longer is gonna have more swing weight possibly making things more challenging but will have more stability for landings and at speed; probably not a huge benefit tho. Also consider if you're hitting rails the majority of the time, these will get trashed and be dead in a year or two. At that point you can get longer skis if desired. My brother rode 166cm skis all mountain until a couple years ago. He's 6'2" lol. It's not the end of the world and shorter might be better for your progression up front.

Thanks I ended up buying a pair in 170cm! Hopefully if everything works out they will be here in a few days. Do you guys have any binding recommendations, for these skis?

 

[WoFIowz]

Thanks I ended up buying a pair in 170cm! Hopefully if everything works out they will be here in a few days. Do you guys have any binding recommendations, for these skis?

A lot of people here like tyrolia attack2 bindings. Good value and can usually find around $100-130, maybe even less on sales. Comes in all sorts of colors. That would be my pick. Pivots are another favorite but also $$$$$. Sth2 is another popular one, however I've never ridden them so can't vouch.

 

[Pablo_Sanchez]

Thanks I ended up buying a pair in 170cm! Hopefully if everything works out they will be here in a few days. Do you guys have any binding recommendations, for these skis?

$150 pivot 12s with grip walk so they can’t be that old

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134567360402?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=134567360402&targetid=1530439037651&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9018945&poi=&campaignid=19851828444&mkgroupid=145880009014&rlsatarget=aud-1480434320788la-1530439037651&abcId=9307249&merchantid=6296724&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh8Dk6pSfejUnLIh_EfaLUmrh&gclid=CjwKCAjwgqejBhBAEiwAuWHioAj_Jl6HrpMGpzAwy8MDWoUgVyX4cLIf59aqaLtYwl69E-nkrDY1ihoCeugQAvD_BwE

or check marketplace near you. If you want something new/cheaper just go with the attacks like guy above said