Skinning with ARG's?

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Has anyone skinned with ARGs?

I just got some trekkers and im trying to get into some BC and sidecountry this winter. ARGs are my pow skis but they dont appear the be the easiest skis to skin with so i was wondering if anyone had any experience doing so.
 
I skin a bit on reverse reverse lotus 138's and splatulas it's definitely more work and requires good skinning tequnique. If the skinners steep and well worn you're almost better bustin new trail.With alpine wreckers it's gonna suck hard but not as bad as boot packin.
 
Word up, i havent skinned before so i doubt ill be do gnarly tours but i also think i wont mind trekkers+args since i dont have anything to base them off of.
 
I havent AT on ARG but they would be good busting new trail in deep stuff but on a trail or path they seem they would blow due to being a full reverse ski that wide.
 
Day wreckers make skinning very difficult for most people. I would assume that on something burly like the ARGs it would be even tougher. It would certainly frustrate me. When I used them I was falling and slipping all over the place. That was years ago though and I get the difference now between those and my touring setups.

That said, I get that you already have the day wreckers and touring bindings = $. So it's definitely possible, but it won't be the easiest way for sure.
 
Yeah i understand trekkers arent the best for the skin up but i didnt want to buy AT bindings and then remount my skis. Got a deal on the trekkers too...

What is it that makes it difficult? Cuz theyre higher up? Less stable?

i want to get skins for my ARG's since they are my pow skis but i do have surface double times which can shred pow but theyre my park ski and center mounted. So easier to skin but harder to ride...

Fuck it im just gonna rock this not so prime AT setup and when i upgrade it will just be all that sweater.

 
No that's totally fine and I tried to get that across as well. The main reason why day wreckers are so hard to use (from my experience) definitely has to do with your boot being so high off of the ski. There's also the issue that the piece that mounts into the alpine binder isn't as solid as a ski boot, so when I used them, it tended to slip out with very little torsional force.

Given that you have them already, you have to take into account a few things:

-The Double Times would certainly be easier to skin with.

-Skins for ARGs would be more expensive from a shop or online.

-Can you find a deal on used skins for either of the 2 skis?

-Most importantly, if you were to purchase a touring setup in the (somewhat) near future, what would it be? Would you start from scratch and get totally different binders and skis or would you use the ARGs? If you would use the ARGs, then it would make sense to buy the skins for them now and tough out the year or 2 on the wreckers unless there was a killer deal on skins for the DTs.

I hope that helps a little bit.
 
Dude, thanks for the help i really appreciate it. Im a complete n00b when it comes to skins

I might be able to find some used skins but what are the chances of finding ones cut to ARG's? Ive decided to get em for the ARGs simply because im probably gonna skin to ski pow and id rather endur a rough skin and gain a enjoyable ski down then the otherway around. Also my friend and i are gonna do some locktite work to the trekkers to make sure they stay well maintained. Now all i need is a backpack and a beacon
 
I skin with hellbents. Kinda sucks going up but going down is awesome. Thats what is more important. Also youll get huge hammys
 
Sounds good. Skins don't need to fit the ski perfectly (although that's optimal). In addition, used skins that were cut for a larger width ski could be cut to fit just like new ones. The single most important thing with skins IMO is length.

My recommendation would be the BD Ascension skins (the orange nylon ones that heaps of people have). They hold well, stick well, come off the ski easily, and are probably one of the less expensive ones out there. They have a flexible plastic piece on the back with a metal clip that can be adjusted to best fit the length of a particular ski within the range of ~10 cm.

In terms of cutting the skins, first make sure that the tip loop fits over the tip of the ski. The tip of 140 mm width skins I have for my Caylors did not fit over the shovel nose of the ski. I had to get the tips for the 160 mm skin instead. After that, follow the directions and be patient. The first one might not be perfect. Cut off less than you think (you can always trim more later).

Hope it helped.
 
Oh I forgot to mention, make sure you have beacon, shovel, and probe (minimum), and that everybody else in the group does too if you are traveling in avalanche terrain. Just a beacon won't help much if you can't dig (or be dug) out quickly.

If you have bills to drop on gear than an airbag pack is sweet too. But those are super expensive.
 
Yeah my dad has a probe, beacon, and shovel that i can bum. The beacon is super old school so ill probably upgrade.

Thanks for the help!
 
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