Ski bum, a relic of fading era jailed

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this is from the article,

Wick's boss testified at one of Toups' four

detention hearings that the day after the arrest, Wick suffered a

"post-traumatic condition or disorder that caused her heart to enlarge."

im callin' bullshit on this one, what kind of wrong minded person can come up with something as retarded as this to make a non-threatening, innocent person spend half of his most beloved season in a jail cell.
 
"Wick's (jill wick, the forest service ranger that originally ticketed him and arrested him) boss testified at one of Toups' four detention hearings that the day after the arrest, Wick suffered a "post-traumatic condition or disorder that caused her heart to enlarge."

wtf kind of a post-traumatic condition can enlarge the heart? i was so sad that i tackled an old man into the snow that my heart swelled with guilt-itis?

glad he's out of jail. hopefully someone can point him towards a parking spot he can get settled into without any further hassle.

 
Great to hear he's out!

Give big thanks to those that brought attention to this story and the judge who finally saw through to what was really going on...just a man trying to do what he loves.
 
seriously. is there anything we can do? I doubt it... I mean, maybe if the summit county skiing community went down to where he is jailed and protested, demanding his release...

the fact that they won't give him bail, the charges laid upon him.. this is completely unjust.

I know the government doesn't like transients, but come on.... this is a bit much. Anyone in Colorado who cares about the skiing lifestyle should straight up demand that he be released, otherwise it will set a precedent for anyone with NFA from now on.

fight for freedom!
 
do you really expect me to read all that??? ill just say +vibes and i might mail him a "get out of jail free card" God i love monopoly......
 
I disagree with what most of you say. Hes a bum, who broke the law. Most DNR officers go through more training than normal police officer so they know there stuff. If he said he was assaulted, then i believe the cop over some crazy bum. Cops dont make this type of stuff up. Every encounter I have had with the police taught me to RESPECT them and they will respect you. Also they could have deemed his vehicle unsafe for the road because the doors were tired with rope. He got lucky with that. Also there is stuff that isnt in the article that happened. I would love to see the police report for this incident.

The bum doesnt care about anyone except for himself due to, he disregarded the fact the courts sent him 2 notices to appear in court. After that a warrant is issued for you and you get notice of that and have time to turn yourself in. He disregarded that too; laws are there for our best interest. He landed himself in jail die to his carelessness for responsibility. The court should have not given him bail because he is a huge flight risk.

I know my karma is going to go down for this, but i dont care. Just because you wanna ski doesnt mean you can disregard the law. There are many ski bums around who dont show disrespect for law and officers who enforce them. Police and DNR officers are our friends, they only want to help protect us.
 
wait what? i see dangerous vehicles every day i don't see them getting their asses thrown in jail he's not going to hurt anybody hell we should ban driving and skiing because people die doing that i would love to do what that guy does going around shredding the gnarly white thats fucking awesome
 
there is so much i want to say to you... but i'm afraid that if I start, I'll end up on a rant so big, you won't ever read it.

I'll keep it short and simple - you seam to have an extremely conservative mind, and while a lot of people probably have the same mentality as you, you probably won't find them here. go become a cop or something if you love them so much.
 
I just wanted to say that not every officer is an honest one. It happens and there is not much we can do about it. I do like to believe that cops are honest all the time and we can believe what their reports say, but its just not true all the time.
 
if he needs to pay a fine, someone should set up a donation fund, i would be more than glad to help this old guy out!
 
Guys watch out, a 60 year old ski bum is gonna take down the government!!! He's dangerous too, a menace to his neighbors and colleagues.
 
"hostile" and "dangerous" ? wow fuck that, someone give the guy some free gear and skis hes a legend for christs sake
 
I'm so glad that he got released. That was such utter bullshit. He shouldn't be put in the same category as hardcore criminals. What a waste of taxpayer's money.(Putting him in jail)
 
I see why all of you hate what im saying. I am saying really conservative comments compared to the love everyone has for a bum. But look at it from the perspective of the government. The man is living in a government office parking lot and camping for free at national parks which are either prohibited or pay site camping. Most rangers dont want trouble, there are rules to help keep these places as beautiful as possible.

I have respect for the guy for keeping his dream for the last thirty years, but times have changed and people have to change with them. We all dream of doing what he has done for 30 years but, there are right ways of doing it and wrong ways of doing it. In MY mind, he has neglected the important part of life in growing up, we all need to. We have more than enough time to have fun and do crazy stuff and he grew up in the craziest time in american history with change in rock and roll and the creation of the hippie movement. oh yeah, the real WOODSTOCK! TOO

The bum had the choice to accept a light sentence for the charges he received. He was offered a great deal in pleading guilty and paying fines. The fines he would have to pay is $57/ day for his incarceration fee and nothing else. That is the lighttest sentence for 3 federal misdeameanors i have ever heard of. hes not pleading guilty to his lifestyle jsut the recent decisions he made. Also he wouldnt have even had to serve anytime if he would have showed up to his arraignment, he just brushed the law off. And waht i said about the truck, the thing that worried me was the trailor he was towing, i dont know ho wmuch you know about car, but if you lack maintenance, important thing can go wrong. Like the trailor with his skis and motorcycle breaking off (seen something simular) and ruining someones day.

I dont hate the guy for doing whate he loves, I dont like the fact he thinks hes above the state and federal laws. Those US newschooler, we live in the best country in the world that gives us the most freedom to live the way we want. The era of ski bums isnt dying, its just changing, and those old ski bums need to change with it.
 
Just to let you know I plan to become part of the judicial/ criminal justice system. I want to help people who have made poor decisions. Obviously this man hasn't made the best decision or he wouldnt be in the position he is in. Read my other post, youll understand my perspective better.

My biggest beef with the guy isnt the fact hes a bum, but that he disregarded the officers. If you break down his charges, he was only issued, an illigal camping ticket or whatever its called. He wasnt charge with the pot or assualt until after he disregarded his arraignment. And about the assualt, there are alot of sick people out there, the officers didnt know he didnt have a gun or knife or something. Watch the show cops, weird stuff can happen in routine tickets. THey always have to be on their guard because of the unknown.

Dude your from BC, so i dont expect you to understand the laws of the US or how the judicial process works. Not to be mean or anything, but the systems between canada and the US are very different. I respect what you have to say, youve been on this site alot longer than I have, and your rating is a ton higher than mine will ever be.

This was just my opion on the whole sitaution with this guy. there are alot out there. I like new schoolers because of the freedom we have to say things like what i am. Even though Im bashed like woah for it.
 
i don't disrespect you, i just don't agree with you. his whole "brushing off the law" thing - well, the summons went to his p.o. box in aspen... he doesn't live in aspen. so sure, he "brushed off the law", in the eye's of the law... in reality, he never even knew he was a wanted man. I know ignorance isn't above the law, but come one, everything isn't black and white - and I think that's one of the main faults with officials, they only look at things as such.

and as for you talking about these laws being in place, him breaking them, and therefor, he has to pay the repercussions... well, on paper - yes, that is true... but come on. aren't some of these laws we have a little much? North America has so many laws that are completely bullshit and shouldn't exist. Yes, he broke some laws, but should these laws be enforced? well, it's all situational. He stated that he thought there was a "gentleman's agreement", I guess some hard ass cops disagreed. It's like the drinking in public law, I mean, come on... there are so many other things you can charge me with if I'm being a nuisance to the public: mischief, vandalism, disturbance of the peace, trespassing, etc... If I am simply just walking down the street from my house to my friends house, which happens to be two blocks away, and I have a beer in my hand, does that really warrant a fine?

If you do in fact want to become part of the judicial/criminal justice system to help people like our ski bum friend in question, you must understand things from the NFA crowd. I myself, fit in this crowd to an extent. I am from Ontario, moved to BC, but for the first 5 or 6 years of me living here, I did not yet become a BC resident, so according to the system - I was still in Ontario... so when I got a jaywalking ticket in Alberta (because some cops were being completely unreasonable), I never received anything in the mail to inform me of a court date... I probably have a warrant out for my arrest in Alberta - it's just a good thing I will never go back to that province again. Add that on top of the fact that, even while in BC, I move locations 3, 4 times a year... living like a gypsy for half the year, I only work 4 months of the year... It's very hard for the government to track me down, understand my living situation... hell, the banks won't even give me a credit card because they don't understand what I am doing.

I will stop here, but I have a feeling that we aren't done yet.
 
You forgot some items from the article.

1) Wick the bitch's doctor said that there was no problem with her heart

2) the officer IN COURT, admitted the only thing charlie did was tense up, that he did not shove the officer, hit the officer, etc. THIS WAS IN COURT!! Do you honestly believe the officer would minimize what Charlie did in court???
 
i read about that in the free press. dudes legit. living the life! sort of..... glad hes out of jail he didnt do anything wrong really.
 
I hate how everyone looks down on him and other ski bums, theyre the happiest people in the world. they just dont understand.
 
And that statement is... false.

I guess I can partly understand how many on here think his life is pretty sweet since skiing is such a big part of your life now and your favorite thing to do. However, the last thing this world needs is someone who lives in a car and contributes nothing to anyone else's life and lives solely to do an activity while totally neglecting every other part of his life. Yes, the charges were way over the top, and to top it off, he certainly didn't help his case. But I must say I am a bit perturbed by the number of people that think this guy is awesome. Talk about a lack of reality.
 
I agree with you totally buddy. Everyone here bashed me for thinking the same thing. The charges were over the top because he completely neglected going to court, if he would have went and gotten his fine for camping on private land, he wouldnt have had a warrant issue or been caught for the other charges.

 
Thats just the maximum sentence. Nobody ever gets that. He would have gotten probation for the pot. the only reason he was taken to jail was because he was considered a flight risk since he didnt show up to the initial hearing. It also said he was offered a deal, if he admitted guilt, he would have been only punished with time served. BUT he declined that because he said "it would admit his entire life was wrong"
 
start a donation for a ski bum? why should i give my hard earned money to a guy who chooses not to have a job/income? although i feel for the guy getting charged with what he got, i dont think that a "fund" should get started. because im sure that many of us want to just stop working and ski living off of a charity for your own pleasure. there are alot more people out there who actually deserve that money.

/rant.
 
That is good news. Their brilliant logic was too much for me to handle. The guy said he had never taken any government handouts and had a financially self-sufficient life. So there thought is to take a guy who is in no way a burden to the tax payers, and make him into a burden by putting him in jail? Ridiculous. And as for those officers claiming he assaulted them, they should be forced to step down or be canned.
 
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