Sizing Armada ARV 116

OutDr406

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Need suggestions on sizing Armada ARV 116 (not the UL version). 5'9" 175lbs age 54. I fall somewhere on the advanced skier spectrum, not as strong as I was 10 years and a few injuries ago. Currently my powder ski is Nordica Patron 177 which I am keeping. Just want a lighter more playful ski on big powder days. Considering size, I ski bowls and trees on big days. Try to stay on less tracked areas. Maneuverability is number one for me, of course I don't want to lose stability but I am willing to compromise some on that. Right now I am leaning to 175, but I am concerned it will be super unstable. Open to moving up to 185, but will it be too much in the trees? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
5'9'' around 145lbs age 31. Skied on 185cm model few days last season and i would recommend those over 175cm.

Mounted -3,5cm from middle. If you go for 175 i would go a bit further back, like -4,5 -5cm or recommended.

One clip from skiing trees, one from easy slope and last is a bit steeper and higher speed.

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14563985:vissi said:
5'9'' around 145lbs age 31. Skied on 185cm model few days last season and i would recommend those over 175cm.

Mounted -3,5cm from middle. If you go for 175 i would go a bit further back, like -4,5 -5cm or recommended.

One clip from skiing trees, one from easy slope and last is a bit steeper and higher speed.

[video]1079878[/video]

**This post was edited on Nov 11th 2023 at 12:39:16pm

**This post was edited on Nov 11th 2023 at 12:41:14pm

Thanks Vissi. They didn't seem chatty once you hit the flatter section like I thought they might be. Thanks for the info leaning towards the 185. I really think they will be much easier to maneuver than the Patrons which I still enjoy.
 
If maneuverability is number 1 then obviously go the shorter size. Personally I would go 185 because it's actually 183cm after pressing. That's not horribly big feeling even at the recommended mount point. It also depends if you are defining trees as actually tight trees, or if you think of trees like that wide open spread out run in the video above. Tighter trees will make you think a bit more about sizing but I still vote 185.
 
i mean you're fine either way. 175 is exactly your height so that'll def work, but 185 would too-- those things ski super short

go with your gut. both will be great in this case
 
JJs ski ridiculously short IMO. I have a set of 185 ULs and i'm 5'10" 155lbs and have them mounted at the freestyle line which is 2.5" back from center. I'm fairly agressive and put a lot of forward pressure into my boots and skis and really like to drive the shovels. Sometimes this has me feeling like i'm going to go over the bars even in pow. The standard JJ will definitely be a bit stiffer than the UL which will help, but with all of the rocker on these skis I would almost always tell someone between sizes to go up.

I have ARV 96's in a 184, Faction Prodigy 3's in a 184, and an old pair of Marksmans in a 184. 184 is pretty much my go to size, and sometimes I truly wish I got the 192 JJ. It's a great ski don't get me wrong, but again I would recommend sizing up at least to the 185 with how deep their rocker goes. They are crazy playful and really fun when the conditions are right.
 
Sometimes this has me feeling like i'm going to go over the bars even in pow.

184 is pretty much my go to size, and sometimes I truly wish I got the 192 JJ. It's a great ski don't get me wrong, but again I would recommend sizing up at least to the 185 with how deep their rocker goes. They are crazy playful and really fun when the conditions are right.

Yeah i had same problem of going over when i had JJ mounted close to middle, skied on -2, -3,5 and -4,5cm and they definetly feel better for me when not mounted so close to middle. If i was going to buy a pair of JJs now i would grab 192s or go for something with flatter tail.

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14564918:OutDr406 said:
I won a new pair at the Land of Giants ski movie otherwise I'd take you up on that. You like them?

To be honest, I liked the old JJ better, it just felt more surfy, but then again thats when I was a kid. And been really wondering if I need 116 underfoot anymore.

gratz on the win tho thats sweet.
 
14564919:mikem said:
To be honest, I liked the old JJ better, it just felt more surfy, but then again thats when I was a kid. And been really wondering if I need 116 underfoot anymore.

gratz on the win tho thats sweet.

Are the new ones too heavy? I am trying to get away from heavy, but they new ones are still 400g lighter than my current pair.
 
14564923:OutDr406 said:
Are the new ones too heavy? I am trying to get away from heavy, but they new ones are still 400g lighter than my current pair.

They are my heaviest ski and also my widest. You will feel the weight difference. The ski is a surfy pow ski and doesn't really feel heavy on your feet. To me it just seemed kinda unresponsive, but maybe thats because it wants to surf and float
 
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