Sickday 114 in the park

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I mostly ski all mountain and just jump off of natural features and things, but I enjoy the occasional park lap with a few rails and jumps... about to buy some sick day 14’s. Am I going to look totally stupid on the occasional park feature in those things?
 
Naw, wide skis are lit in the park. Just don’t expect them to be as easy as your park skis. I still center mount my deathwishes so I can ski park on em occasionally and they’re 112 underfoot.
 
Reckoner 112 Ik a guy that skis them in the park when he’s not skiing pow and I’ve seen birk Irving skiing them in the park, and 2 tele skiers who throw tricks into pow and land switch in it that ski them. Or marksman their 108 I ski park and pow on them. Or sick days idk much about their shape and twin but they’ll be fine just won’t be fun with super techy swaps

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14226868:Young_patty said:
Naw, wide skis are lit in the park. Just don’t expect them to be as easy as your park skis. I still center mount my deathwishes so I can ski park on em occasionally and they’re 112 underfoot.
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Okay dope. I think they’d be fun and would add some funky style but didn’t want to look like a dumbass
 
14226870:WoFlowz said:
Reckoner 112 Ik a guy that skis them in the park when he’s not skiing pow and I’ve seen birk Irving skiing them in the park, and 2 tele skiers who throw tricks into pow and land switch in it that ski them. Or marksman their 108 I ski park and pow on them. Or sick days idk much about their shape and twin but they’ll be fine just won’t be fun with super techy swaps

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Bet. Makes sense.
 
topic:Efisherf said:
I mostly ski all mountain and just jump off of natural features and things, but I enjoy the occasional park lap with a few rails and jumps... about to buy some sick day 14’s. Am I going to look totally stupid on the occasional park feature in those things?
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Wides in park? No problem!

 
topic:Efisherf said:
I mostly ski all mountain and just jump off of natural features and things, but I enjoy the occasional park lap with a few rails and jumps... about to buy some sick day 14’s. Am I going to look totally stupid on the occasional park feature in those things?
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Wide skis in the park are dope but the Sick Day is very directional so the swing weight is not at all the same as a freestyle oriented ski. The mount point on the 114 is something like 9 or 10cm back from center so skiing/landing switch would feel weird as shit. That being said, [tag=74728]@dylansiggers[/tag] center mounted his 114s I think and he crushed it on those things so you most likely will be able to get away with it.
 
i skied one season on hellbents that are 122 under foot. that included park laps and it definitely makes you think your tricks in a new way cause your movements are slower due to the bigger ski.

also i think it looks badass that you have big and directional skis in the park and can throw down
 
14227138:animator said:
Wide skis in the park are dope but the Sick Day is very directional so the swing weight is not at all the same as a freestyle oriented ski. The mount point on the 114 is something like 9 or 10cm back from center so skiing/landing switch would feel weird as shit. That being said, [tag=74728]@dylansiggers[/tag] center mounted his 114s I think and he crushed it on those things so you most likely will be able to get away with it.
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I ran those at center, but they forsure don't like to ski at center haha

I ski everything in the middle just cause I like the swing weight and the feel of having a short tip and a lot of tail, but the sidecut of that ski is defs not made to ski good that far forward. Go for it if you want to tho! its just not ...designed to do that
 
14227429:dylansiggers said:
I ran those at center, but they forsure don't like to ski at center haha

I ski everything in the middle just cause I like the swing weight and the feel of having a short tip and a lot of tail, but the sidecut of that ski is defs not made to ski good that far forward. Go for it if you want to tho! its just not ...designed to do that
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Honesty is the best policy. Some of you could ski well on a POS! Be good man!

If it was this "old" man I would mount recommended! I can't ski like you guys!
 
14227429:dylansiggers said:
I ran those at center, but they forsure don't like to ski at center haha

I ski everything in the middle just cause I like the swing weight and the feel of having a short tip and a lot of tail, but the sidecut of that ski is defs not made to ski good that far forward. Go for it if you want to tho! its just not ...designed to do that
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What about the Vision 108? How does a centered mount work on them? I'm thinking going -2 or -3 from true center
 
I have my sick day 104’s -2 from true center because of hole conflicts/mild inebriation during mounting. I actually kind of really like them there. I can’t really drive the tips hard but they slash super quick because of how forward I am on the sidecut. At this point they’re my beater touring skis, super fun in weird variable stuff and fast n’loose in corn.
 
Sure, I can understand how skiing a ski at -2 rather than retiring it is better than the alternative (even if it is an original -10 mount ski and a pretty shait idea on paper), but what is it with Newschoolers and the "go -2 from center or center mount the skis" advice, regardless of what ski one is talking about?

It is terrible advice.

The only way it is good advice is if an even swing weight trumps all other considerations, like where in the sidecut you end up, flex pattern and the ski's geometry.

I mean, if you want a ski that is to be mounted at center or -2, why not get a ski that is designed around those design goals? Does that just make too much sense to be an option?

A Vision108 mounted at -2 or -3 from center is 4 and 3 cm respectively ahead of the ski's recommended mount point. That puts you ahead of where the ski is designed to be skied from and closer to its rather noodly shovels. The Vision108 is a really light ski as well, so its swing weight is not going to be significant at the best of times nor is its construction as sturdy as other skis specifically meant for park skiing. Will it work? Sure, but will it be as good as at recommended? I would hazard a no.

So why not get a Sir Francis Bacon that is actually designed around a -2 mount point if that is where you want to mount your bindings?

I just do not get it, but then again I do not ski park.

I especially do not get it if it is based on emulating pro skiers who not only get paid to ski the skis and get them for free (so no downside to a potentially shitty mount, they can just grab a new pair), but where said pro skiers are so much better at skiing than us mere mortals that their superior on-ski balance and ski handling skills will mean that they could outski us on freaking snow blades. What they make work might not be the best of ideas for the rest of us, even if the swing weight is on point.

I know this post is kinda like pissing into the wind and it will probably not be too popular, but why not get the correct tool for the job instead of trying to make something something it is not?
 
14317357:kid-kapow said:
Sure, I can understand how skiing a ski at -2 rather than retiring it is better than the alternative (even if it is an original -10 mount ski and a pretty shait idea on paper), but what is it with Newschoolers and the "go -2 from center or center mount the skis" advice, regardless of what ski one is talking about?

It is terrible advice.

The only way it is good advice is if an even swing weight trumps all other considerations, like where in the sidecut you end up, flex pattern and the ski's geometry.

I mean, if you want a ski that is to be mounted at center or -2, why not get a ski that is designed around those design goals? Does that just make too much sense to be an option?

A Vision108 mounted at -2 or -3 from center is 4 and 3 cm respectively ahead of the ski's recommended mount point. That puts you ahead of where the ski is designed to be skied from and closer to its rather noodly shovels. The Vision108 is a really light ski as well, so its swing weight is not going to be significant at the best of times nor is its construction as sturdy as other skis specifically meant for park skiing. Will it work? Sure, but will it be as good as at recommended? I would hazard a no.

So why not get a Sir Francis Bacon that is actually designed around a -2 mount point if that is where you want to mount your bindings?

I just do not get it, but then again I do not ski park.

I especially do not get it if it is based on emulating pro skiers who not only get paid to ski the skis and get them for free (so no downside to a potentially shitty mount, they can just grab a new pair), but where said pro skiers are so much better at skiing than us mere mortals that their superior on-ski balance and ski handling skills will mean that they could outski us on freaking snow blades. What they make work might not be the best of ideas for the rest of us, even if the swing weight is on point.

I know this post is kinda like pissing into the wind and it will probably not be too popular, but why not get the correct tool for the job instead of trying to make something something it is not?
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Nobody adviced anything.

I own the skis, I know how I like my skis to ski, I looked at them and figured out where I wanted to mount them (definitely taking the rec mount in consideration, as well as the side cut and flex pattern), and then I'm double checking my thinking with a pro who like you said has the opportunity to experiment at low cost and also someone's I like the skiing style.

What's wrong with that?
 
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