Serious Helmet Question
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percs
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topic:Flwrs said:
People think if you’re not wearing a helmet you’re gonna die . It’s not like that. People who have died skiing were wearing helmets many times. Michael Schumacher and Sarah Burke were both wearing helmets. Vice versa you can hit your head on snow without a helmet and it doesn’t do much different than it would have been wearing one. Your skull is thick af and snow is not gonna crack it. The thing I’m more scared of as a veteran skier is hitting your chest and collapsing your aorta. That and a spinal injury you should be more worried about.
Your skull is a natural helmet already and a helmet isn’t gonna stop your brain from hitting the inside of your skull which is the real issue. A helmet isn’t going to automatically save your life and hitting your head with and without a helmet still causes a concussion.
**This post was edited on Mar 14th 2024 at 10:33:55am
**This post was edited on Mar 14th 2024 at 10:35:26am
SofaKingSick
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^this guy is right that for some falls, ones that result in death, a helmet isn't going to magically save your life. but the rest is pretty dumb claims. helmets absolutely do help prevent concussions (get one with MIPS) and can save you from injuries from mild to extremely serious and sometimes even save your life. plenty of pictures out there of people who have hit trees or rocks with their helmet and it's easy to imagine how devastating that crack in the helmet would be if it were applied to your head without the helmet
it might seem kind of arbitrary to wear a helmet but not other safety gear... skiing is a generally dangerous sport. but the head is not like the rest of your body, it's not a muscle to recover, it's a mysterious magical control center of your body and head injuries can be life ruining very, very easily
helmets are cheap and light and comfortable these days. it's your call to wear one or not, ive gone without plenty of times as a young idiot, but really there's no good reason to not wear one these days and you'll feel really shitty if you get a head injury that's way worse than it needs to be
it might seem kind of arbitrary to wear a helmet but not other safety gear... skiing is a generally dangerous sport. but the head is not like the rest of your body, it's not a muscle to recover, it's a mysterious magical control center of your body and head injuries can be life ruining very, very easily
helmets are cheap and light and comfortable these days. it's your call to wear one or not, ive gone without plenty of times as a young idiot, but really there's no good reason to not wear one these days and you'll feel really shitty if you get a head injury that's way worse than it needs to be
Adam.smith
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14598215:percs said:
I feel like a helmet can definitely save you on a rail, but I'm sure pros have more control and can just jump off and then fall. I
SofaKingSick
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oh and yeah pros are good at falling and generally don't land on their heads. but it's still the same judgment call any skier makes with the same pros and cons. shit happens, if you think you can't possibly hit your head cause you're too good you're just naive. pros have gotten injuries doing something as simple/dumb as catching an edge reverting. and people have died from little taps to the head
AndrewGravesSV
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helmets are evidence that you care about your safety or lack confidence, caring about your safety in action sports is inherently not cool because the danger is what makes it cool in the first place.
Personally I always ride with one cause of the chance of a freak crash or getting hit by someone else but youre lying if you think you look cooler wearing one
Personally I always ride with one cause of the chance of a freak crash or getting hit by someone else but youre lying if you think you look cooler wearing one
iDontHitRails
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14598242:percs said:
Literally nobody cares
iDontHitRails
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14598246:percs said:
You have no swag
AndrewGravesSV
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14598237:percs said:
you really dont know what youre talking about and its obvious my guy. Mips is a branding thing that they've been able to maneuver into being the pseudo industry standard like goretex. It works through the helmet material absorbing/displacing impact and through crumpling. Everyone knowingly does stuff that is bad for themselves for comfort/aesthetics so just own it, its a free country
Non_State_Actor
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Helmets are just a simple intelligence test. If you can pass introduction to statistics or physics then you wear one, if not then you don't.
PartyBullshiit
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14598242:percs said:
I’m also willing to bet you have 10X less brain cells than him too. Your take is fucking stupid.
BallClapper
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Oldheads. Some of those guys were riding before helmets were common. Hell, Sammy c didn't used to wear a helmet. Now when he's doing big mtn stuff he almost always wears one. Confuses me that some people wear a lid in the pow but not the park.
trash_pandaaa5
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comparing skiing to skateboarding is so stupid. Sure when your skating there is concrete and metal everywhere but u are going so much faster on skis ALL the time, you are constantly going between 25-60 miles per hour on skis compared to going 5-30 miles an hour on a board. Only time your really going fast on a board is when your bombing a hill or something, Another thing is when ur skiing there are obstacles like moguls, trees, rocks. Another thing is when ur skiing theres a decent chance you run into another PERSON. Imagine your going like 45 miles an hour and then fucking deck some retard traversing across the run, thats another thing that can just totally fuck you. Skateboarding is dangerous in its own ways and so is skiing. Do whatever you want but dont be saying that helmets are not working because if you're saying that then you better start wearing one for everyday. Stay safe
iDontHitRails
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14598249:percs said:
Says the fool with no swag
butterflywatcher
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14598236:percs said:
yes they do bru, just the other day at my local skate park sum dude had to get carted off to an ambulance and left a ton of blood from his head all over the bowl because he wasn't wearing a helmet. He was a great skater too.
14598235:percs said:
all of us are yapping at you because it’s fun to fuck with clueless tards. but to spare you more i’ll just tell you that in reality your entire argument is obliterated by a single scientific study. i’ll probably drop a thread in gear talk with a good one at some point because this whole helmet debacle is making me wonder what the exact data is
steezytangerine
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"no helmet no like 
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Benchhitter
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14598237:percs said:
Believe me man I’m not discrediting how thick your skull is
SteezyYeeter
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14598243:Voyage86 said:
dude you're literally a pretentious douche with the fit of a mike hayes wanna be shut the hell up ?
SteezyYeeter
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14598399:Voyage86 said:
SteezyYeeter
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14598405:Voyage86 said:
haha that was a good one. thanks bre. come ski with me now, squash the beef because lowk it's better to just not beef ja hear me.
BigPurpleSkiSuit
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I always wear a helmet. You can ski into a tree, hit your head on a hard rock under the snow, on ice, lots of things a helmet is good at preventing including a skull fracture. It used to be the old style to not wear a helmet, some still don't, Candide is Candide, but I can tell you that there have been deaths where a helmet might have saved someone for sure.
VISHNU
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Personal anecdote, but I used to always wear a helmet and concussed myself regularly. The problem was, in hindsight, that the helmet gave me unearned confidence that, combined with not knowing how to fall, put me in precarious situations. Every single time I can recall getting a concussion i can remember my back molars hitting together and the bright flash of light that followed.
I stopped wearing a helmet and instead learned to tuck my chin when falling and started using a mouthguard. Since then, I haven't gotten a concussion while skiing. I'm a big advocate for mouthguards at this point in my life. Everyone in the elder Vishnu crew (Dylan, Kysen, Luke) usually uses one as well. They use them in the NHL, NFL, even the NBA, so why shouldn't you?
In conclusion, please wear a helmet if you want to and if it makes you feel safe, regardless of how it looks. But, keep in mind that the helmet itself is part of a larger safety strategy that also involves learning how to fall and skiing within your limits. If you don't want to wear a helmet for whatever reason, consider wearing a mouthguard because it may help you way more than you ever thought it would.
(disclaimer, i still wear a helmet if I am skiing powder because i am afraid of rocks and trees)
I stopped wearing a helmet and instead learned to tuck my chin when falling and started using a mouthguard. Since then, I haven't gotten a concussion while skiing. I'm a big advocate for mouthguards at this point in my life. Everyone in the elder Vishnu crew (Dylan, Kysen, Luke) usually uses one as well. They use them in the NHL, NFL, even the NBA, so why shouldn't you?
In conclusion, please wear a helmet if you want to and if it makes you feel safe, regardless of how it looks. But, keep in mind that the helmet itself is part of a larger safety strategy that also involves learning how to fall and skiing within your limits. If you don't want to wear a helmet for whatever reason, consider wearing a mouthguard because it may help you way more than you ever thought it would.
(disclaimer, i still wear a helmet if I am skiing powder because i am afraid of rocks and trees)
just read some article the other day, some guy researching helmets for decades. So basically a helmet is useful that it prevents a concussion in minor falls where you hit an object with something like up to 20 mph. Anything bigger than this and the helmet is useless, so whatever is going to kill you will kill you with or without helmets. This is why mass helmets usage didn't decrease deaths, it only decreased minor trauma like concussions. So the insight here is - if you are riding X Games-style a helmet wouldn't help. If you are a regular folk riding the resort a helmet could definitely help you avoid some trauma
fucintight
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pretty sure mouth guards help prevent tbi’s n shit (brain shake) almost as much if not more than helmets do
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SmokedGouda
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Imstead we could all just coat our bodies in cheese. Its spongy, can absorb big falls, and its a good snack that means you dont have to go to the lodge for that 30 dollar big mac and 15 dollar old salad. At this point, we could solve world hunger with cheese….