A lot of knocking on the p3s/punishers.. I've had my 2010 p3s for a while and enjoy them a lot. All my friends and around the shops dissed Scott's stuff, but once both had the skis in their hands they were really impressed with the construction of the ski. So far no edge cracks-- or hardcore chipping like the ar6s i had before. Surprisingly light, id say about suspect stiffness (based on my 08/09s) ... but to me a step away from the suspect and AR6, which I owned before these. I think it skis very differently. I personally like going back to the skinnier waist (82 mm), its something different. I think I remember freeskier's review calling them a really aggressive ski, and you "really have to know what you're doing on them" or some shit. Kind of weird lines but I might agree with that assessment, I haven't really thought about it a ton, but with their weight/dimensions/ how stiff they are it was a slight adjustment for me. Overall I like them a lot.