Same Difference 190ft jump

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holy shit just saw LOS Sam Difference the jump was insane about 190ft WTF!!!

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heres a video on the building of the jump


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That overshoot was nuts! Did anyone end up doing any tricks over it? I just flipped through the movie it was over an hour long.
 
13859601:Casey said:
That overshoot was nuts! Did anyone end up doing any tricks over it? I just flipped through the movie it was over an hour long.

in the film no one did anything
 
They built it too big. They didn't get any actual shots from it. Kind of disappointing but cool to see the physical limit of how big you can go on skis.
 
13861104:Skibumsmith said:
They built it too big. They didn't get any actual shots from it. Kind of disappointing but cool to see the physical limit of how big you can go on skis.

my thought was that they should have made it a hip too, so that speed could be figured out and people could work their way up to hitting it straight, like the massive superpark hip in 2002 that candide demolished

as it was, they just had to go straight to hitting it and it just had so much room for error. scary shit. also, i feel like i havent seen it in years but couldnt they have thrown some pads on the knuckle? that'd at least mitigate the consequences of knuckling a little bit :|
 
13861108:SofaKingSick said:
my thought was that they should have made it a hip too, so that speed could be figured out and people could work their way up to hitting it straight, like the massive superpark hip in 2002 that candide demolished

as it was, they just had to go straight to hitting it and it just had so much room for error. scary shit. also, i feel like i havent seen it in years but couldnt they have thrown some pads on the knuckle? that'd at least mitigate the consequences of knuckling a little bit :|

for reference and viewing pleasure

 
13861108:SofaKingSick said:
my thought was that they should have made it a hip too, so that speed could be figured out and people could work their way up to hitting it straight, like the massive superpark hip in 2002 that candide demolished

as it was, they just had to go straight to hitting it and it just had so much room for error. scary shit. also, i feel like i havent seen it in years but couldnt they have thrown some pads on the knuckle? that'd at least mitigate the consequences of knuckling a little bit :|

It was a hip, that's how they started on the first day when they cleared it. It didn't seem like from the film that they hit the hip on the second day when they crashed.
 
13861119:IsaacShepard said:
It was a hip, that's how they started on the first day when they cleared it. It didn't seem like from the film that they hit the hip on the second day when they crashed.

I think it was filmed in one day, but just broken up in the film. Almost seems silly to only hit it once on the first day when you have the speed seemingly dialed.
 
13861108:SofaKingSick said:
my thought was that they should have made it a hip too, so that speed could be figured out and people could work their way up to hitting it straight, like the massive superpark hip in 2002 that candide demolished

as it was, they just had to go straight to hitting it and it just had so much room for error. scary shit. also, i feel like i havent seen it in years but couldnt they have thrown some pads on the knuckle? that'd at least mitigate the consequences of knuckling a little bit :|

did you watch the video? thats all they literally did the first day
 
13861223:TRVP_ANGEL said:
did you watch the video? thats all they literally did the first day

Haha shit my b, I must've missed that part skipping through. It's spread out over so many little segments
 
13859700:.otto. said:
do you know what injuries he got from that?

Hey man, the only injuries I got was a fractured orbita (eye socket) and a little concussion, from smashing my knees into my face. To the guy that thought I broke my legs, luckily that’s not what happened. I didn’t injure my legs at all, they were totally fine somehow. I mean, of course the day after the crash, I felt like I was hit by a truck. Every single muscle in my body felt sore. But my knees, ankles, hips etc. did not hurt at all. I still have no idea how that’s possible, but I’m glad that I got away like that.

Even if it doesn’t look like it, the conditions were far from perfect. The clouds were moving all the time, so the speed would change between every speedcheck. We spent a lot of time in Livigno trying to figure out the right speed, it took a lot of days to get somewhat good enough conditions to hit it. It’s scary, when you can feel wind at the drop-in of a jump like that. It was a 600m inrun that we had to race tuck, to get at least 110 km/h (70 mph) to clear the knuckle. Going into a jump that fast is intimidating, considering that a 52 degree take-off looks like a fucking quarterpipe when you approach it at that speed.

Going that fast, it’s hard to tell, if you’re going 110-115, which would have been the right speed, or not. If you were just a couple of km/h off, it would result in knuckling or overshooting. There were a couple of well-known riders supposed to hit it, that I consider waaay better jump skiers than the rookie that I am compared to them, that decided to not do it, because it seemed to be too gnarly. It looked way bigger in real life, than it does on video, it’s hardly imaginable. That was more snow than the whole nine knights feature for example.

So like I said, we spent a lot of days on the jump trying to figure it out and we had to wait for a long time until we could hit it for the first time. Right after we hit it for the first time, the wind would pick up, so we had to call it off. So we waited again and speedchecked everyday, but it wouldn’t be possible to hit it, because everything had to be absolutely perfect. When we thought we had a good enough day, Paddy overshot it, because the snow conditions on the take-off would have changed that much, during our days of waiting.

There actually were like 3 days between Paddy’s crash and mine. The reason I still decided to hit it was because I didn’t want to disappoint anyone that believed in me and I wanted to prove it to myself that it is possible to do tricks at that speed. To be honest I still think it is, you just need an absolute perfect day, which we didn’t have unfortunately.

It was a stupid decision to hit it on the day I crashed, the conditions were far from good enough, but I still went for it, because I wanted it to be done. It’s challenging your mind when you wake up so many days in a row, thinking “Yo, today is the day. We need to finally get it done!”, you needed to be mentally prepared. And then you go up the mountain and even though it’s sunny and everything, you couldn’t do it, because of it being too slushy, too windy or whatever, is fucking with your mind.

As soon as I left the take-off, I could feel the wind pulling me down and I immediately knew, I was about to eat shit big time. I was so scared of tearing all my acls, mcls etc. and breaking some bones while tumbling down the 47 degree landing, but that wasn’t the case and even today I still don’t understand, how my legs didn’t take any harm at all. Guess I got super lucky.

I’m still a little disappointed, that we couldn’t do any of the tricks that we planned to do for your viewing pleasure, but on the other hand, I gotta be grateful that I didn’t die on that jump. That was by far the scariest thing that I ever got to do.

Shoutout to Paddy Graham for going first, that was mental.

TLDR: Got lucky, didn’t injure my legs at all, conditions were not good enough, sorry for not being able to do the tricks we wanted to do, glad I didn’t die, would probably do it again tho.
 
13861015:.DerKuiirin. said:
As far as I know, he broke his legs on the knuckle and injured his head smh when dropping down the landing

That is not true, my legs didn’t take any harm at all. Just a broken eye socket and a concussion, that was it.
 
This behind the scenes video doesn't really tell the whole story of this jump. You should watch the whole movie to see the real story (Yes it is an hour long but why not sit down and enjoy a ski movie.). It wasn't just one day, yes there was a hip and yes there had been plenty of calculations going into that jump it took almost 2 years till we hit it after the idea. Yes it was scary as fuck to hit that. Out of 7 riders there to hit that thing only 3 of us dropped in. Props to Tom and Lukas for being there with me.
 
13861348:TRitsch said:
sorry for not being able to do the tricks we wanted to do, glad I didn’t die, would probably do it again tho.

I don't think you need to apologize to anyone. That jump is fucking huge; serious props to you guys who hit it
 
13861350:TRitsch said:
That is not true, my legs didn’t take any harm at all. Just a broken eye socket and a concussion, that was it.

There are apparently some wrong rumors out here. Sorry for spreading them.
 
TRitsch

I’m still a little disappointed, that we couldn’t do any of the tricks that we planned to do for your viewing pleasure, but on the other hand, I gotta be grateful that I didn’t die on that jump. That was by far the scariest thing that I ever got to do.

uld probably do it again tho.[/quote]

What tricks were you planning to do on it? For something like that are you spending hours envisioning exactly how you're going to execute a trick or do you more just see how you're feeling that day and see what you feel comfortable with on whatever setup you're hitting?

I can't imagine how you'd ever phsych yourself up to do a trick on something like that.
 
Aside from all the athlete injuries and insanity, I'm impressed with Paddy. Guinea pigging is a young man's game.
 
13862235:VinnieF said:
TRitsch

I’m still a little disappointed, that we couldn’t do any of the tricks that we planned to do for your viewing pleasure, but on the other hand, I gotta be grateful that I didn’t die on that jump. That was by far the scariest thing that I ever got to do.

uld probably do it again tho.

What tricks were you planning to do on it? For something like that are you spending hours envisioning exactly how you're going to execute a trick or do you more just see how you're feeling that day and see what you feel comfortable with on whatever setup you're hitting?

I can't imagine how you'd ever phsych yourself up to do a trick on something like that.

Might want to requote him so he gets a notification. I tried to do this for you, but couldn't get it to work. I'd be interested to know the answer as well.
 
13862235:VinnieF said:
What tricks were you planning to do on it? For something like that are you spending hours envisioning exactly how you're going to execute a trick or do you more just see how you're feeling that day and see what you feel comfortable with on whatever setup you're hitting?

I can't imagine how you'd ever phsych yourself up to do a trick on something like that.

The first tricks I had in my mind were cork 3 and bio 7. These are the two tricks that I feel the most comfortable on, taking off and landing forward.

I skied down the landing switch once, just dropping from the knuckle and it would make me go so fast that I almost shat my pants when I hit the transition at the bottom of the landing. So I decided that landing switch wouldn’t be a good idea.

My dream would have been to do a bio 10. On that trick, you can slow down the rotation a lot, once you get the right grab, even if the timing of the take-off is a little off, which can easily happen at that speed.

As far as envisioning goes, that wouldn’t have been an issue. I have done those tricks countless times, so they’re stuck in my head.

After managing to Iand them, I would have probably called it a day. That was not a jump that you‘d session all day, just for the fun of it. For me, it seemed to be too gnarly for doing tricks that you wouldn’t be a 100 percent sure to stomp. After all, I wanna stay alive, so I can ski some more.
 
13862635:TRitsch said:
The first tricks I had in my mind were cork 3 and bio 7. These are the two tricks that I feel the most comfortable on, taking off and landing forward.

I skied down the landing switch once, just dropping from the knuckle and it would make me go so fast that I almost shat my pants when I hit the transition at the bottom of the landing. So I decided that landing switch wouldn’t be a good idea.

My dream would have been to do a bio 10. On that trick, you can slow down the rotation a lot, once you get the right grab, even if the timing of the take-off is a little off, which can easily happen at that speed.

As far as envisioning goes, that wouldn’t have been an issue. I have done those tricks countless times, so they’re stuck in my head.

After managing to Iand them, I would have probably called it a day. That was not a jump that you‘d session all day, just for the fun of it. For me, it seemed to be too gnarly for doing tricks that you wouldn’t be a 100 percent sure to stomp. After all, I wanna stay alive, so I can ski some more.

You're the fuckin man Tom, very glad you didn't die. Hope to see you in more slvsh games.
 
13861348:TRitsch said:
Going that fast, it’s hard to tell, if you’re going 110-115, which would have been the right speed, or not. If you were just a couple of km/h off, it would result in knuckling or overshooting.

Was it ever considered to have someone with a speed gun by the takeoff who could wave you down if you were going too fast or too slow? Maybe theres a lot of factors i'm not considering but i feel like thats almost a fail proof plan
 
13946941:freestyler540 said:
Holy dude man... Might have to bring a base rig and a wingsuit to hit that thing

Haha would be so jokes if they saw they were going too small or too big so just pulled a chute and flew outta there lol
 
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