Salomon STH 16 a bindning that works in the park?

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cLindstrom

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As the title says. Ive got a good price for this bindning and i wounder if this is a good bindning to use in the park? I ride like 90% park. I dont know how many pounds i weigh because I live in sweden and weigh about 85 KILO if anyone knows how much that is? Cause the sth 16 DIN starts allready at DIN 9 but that isnt much isnt it? because i will be skiing in the park. so the din would be like over 10 after all anyway?

GOD my english sucks bigtime. And I've even got a mom who is english speaking. god im ashamed over myself. peaceeeeeee
 
Umm as far as I know Salomon bindings work on nearly any ski, I don't see how you can say that they don't match. the sth should work fine on a pair of fujatives, although you may want to ask at a local shop about having the brake fit (it should though)
 
the sth16s are good binders but for that much park i wouldn't recommend them. they have a 30 degree snap back mechanism in the toe which is more than most bindings meaning it is a lot easier to tweak a knee. I have the 16s on my JPs for BC cos i don't wanna lose a ski in the pow after a drop, but not for solid park action

You would be better off with the sth12.
 
What do you mean by 30 degree snap back? more info plz? I really want a park bindning before my ski holiday in about 2 weeks so could you guys please help me out. Should i buy these bindnings or what do you think? I would really appreciate answers.
 
I just read onhttp://www.proctorjones.com/pjonline/dept.asp?dept_id=10750

The 2007-2008 Salomon

STH 16 Freeride binding optimizes ski flex from tip to tail and helps

edge grip.These rock in the park or pipe. Din is 9-16 and the STH uses

metal in both heel and toe. A burley binding with 130mm wide brakes.

Regular Price $490.00

wtf now im really messed up. You just said that they wont be good in park and proctorjones say they rock? Ill think ill belive in salomon website and proctorjones. not to diss you but you have been proven wrong :D
 
whatever dude. i work in a solly store. the 30 degree snapback mechanism means your toe can be pulled back into the binder from an angle as wide as 30 degs. most bindings are not like that so will release you easier.
don't get me wrong they are sick bindings.just for so much park we advise people that you might experience more possibility of a tweaked knee. this is why i advise the sth12.

but if you wanna believe the website then its your call and good luck
 
Dude, They are an excellent park binding for a heavier/more agressive skier..Get them.

The heelpiece on them is up there with the older 916 bindings
 
Well if the din setting is ok chances are teh 30 degree snapback may prevent you from loosing a ski on a landing without makign it harder for your knee.

I might eb wrong tho but that's the way I see it.

without knowing how hard he charges, let's just say it could be good for him if he's into burly bindings that dosnt break but that if he's not that hard on bindingand and like a lower din, the sth12 might be better for him even tho the toe piece is more prone to being unadjustable due to the auto-adjustment.
 
yeah he's 85kilos which is like 170 pounds

you're right about not losing a ski as easy but if you land a little shady and you need the toe to release, it is less likely to no matter what the din is. i was just giving this guy the advice we give people at solly cos this binder is sick...just maybe not for 90% park
 
So this toe thingy is just a salomon STH 16 thingy? So all the other "jibb" bindnings dont have this function? SO wich bindnings would you recommend for me? peace
 
Funny how pretty much every 100% park riders on salomon would use them over the 12 if they use din from 9 and over.

I think the auto-adjust toe piece isnt that great since teh screw canstrip pretty easilyand the way we need to loose a shoe quite often would make it un adjustable after a couple release.

And to thread maker, if you want good advice, state everything abou yourself:

height weight, type of skier abiity level, boot lenght, number of petsat home ect.
 
I have seen one too many salomon bindings come into the shops broken.

There are two main issues with this binding.

1.one is the toepiece, the wings on Salomon bindings are prone to breaking.

2.and the second is for the 5th time this month, i have to deal with broken healpieces. its the 7th remember. If you have ever owned a salomon binding you know how it adjusts, with the lever on the heelpiece. More and more of these pieces that slide in the tracks are breaking. And its not a broken piece of plastic, its ripped metal. Totally unfixable. Which means unscrewing the broken heelpiece, and helicoiling in a new one.

Want my opinion? I would look back in time for some pivots or some fks. Sure the breaks arent that great, they snap bend and go under the ski on some switch landings. But the main reason i suggest these are that

1. That toepiece, is solid metal on pivots 10 and up i believe,. never seen one break, seen a few ripped out, maybe one person who's released upwards and didnt know to reset. but that design is proven.

2, The heels, the heels, the heels, what happens when the bindings are mounted under your heel. They respond directly underfoot. not behind. This also allows for the ski to flex naturally, get a little more pop.

The Sth's arent bad, and the drivers are looking sick.
 
i agree with this man about the pivots. excepts the pivot 10's are NOT solid metal, but my pivot 14's are. even my pivot 10's seem like they will go with my to my grave and still be functional. Seriously. I plan to keep both of these bindings until they literally fall apart into 1000 peices.
 
Yeah dude definitely believe "The King Simon Dumont"

Haha dude he's a pro skier who cranks his DIN higher than most of us on here so Im not sure that Dumont is a great reference for which binding to choose. (Good skier tho)

Anyways as it seems u are a big kid who needs a binding before holiday, I'd go with something in between 12-16, like the PX 14, but again, how hard do u ride park? What skis are u mounting them on (Doesnt really make a difference but might as well make sure u arent on 168 GS skis for 90% park ) STH 16's are serious clamps, maybe u want something with a bigger DIN range at least?

Also, we all got pwned by Proctor Jones and Dumont. OHHH SNAPPPPP
 
Do you even know how the sth 12 and 16 are made??? do you even know theyr heel piece are pretty much indestructible????

this is not a s912 or a z serie it's an sth.

you are bad mouthing one of the best binding ever (my personal opinion and teh one of many professionnal athletes and users)made by comparing it to a totaly different binding.

answers to your arguments:

1- the toe piece on the sth 16 arerealy well made and have really good adjustement with the 2 screws on the side making it stronger then the 1 screw stripping piece of shit that the 912 had. And that toe piece designare prone to breaking if your seth morrison jumping off 15o drop doing doubles...

I tought mine were fucked and finally was ableto adjust them back with minor adjustments and repair.

2- The heel piece on the sth serie is the same as on the 916, 920 wich were and are still ne burly ass heel peice tracks, I broke a whole bunch of 912 but havet seen any broken heelpiece on this heel piece track design. They do not have a fliping

argument for p10:

1:Pivot 10-12-14 werent metal, they were plastic and did break a lot more then the sth 16, s914 lab and s916 toe piece. Most look rossi sponsored athletes were using all metal -15-p18 bindings cause tehywere full metal but no upward release so not that good for most of teh general public. I personally seen a lot of riders break them in pieces so I woudnt say they are that durable.

2: if you really want your skis to flex naturaly get some of these bidningswerethe toe piece and heel piece slides on a plat so the ski flex under the binding too. but wait these are uber heavy bindings for recreationnal skierso I guess tehy arent that good of and idea. the tight screw pattern is also way more prone to ripping out and with the softer cores of nowadays park skis you'll prollybe needing helicoils soon if you ride pretty hard or lan on your face a bunch
 
I found out what I weigh in pounds and I weigh 187 pound and im 1.83 m tall. you can say I am a avarage park skiier and are just going to use them in park and maybe some offpist so should I buy the bindnings you think?
 
ture, they got rid of the heavy metal pieces in places that were never breaking on 912 so it's more like teh 916 920 heel system, but lighter with the same track system
 
Just so u know I ordered the sth 16. The funny thing was when i Ordered it they were alla finished so I bet I got the last ones :) Just a little bit worried about the brakes. I think they come with 130 mm brakes and im riding k2 fujative 07/08 so the brakes wont fit.
 
I got them for the nearly the same price as you. 200$ is a dope price but they were much more expensive in the start of the season werent they?

BY the way i thought you could buy seperate ski brakes. The only thing I have to think about is that the ski brake is from salomon or can I buy a Rossigol brake? So say i get the 130 mm ski brake and it wont fit what do I do then? Am i fucked up?
 
A lot of people don't know what they are talking about in here. Thank god Cedric is here! Congrats on getting yourself a really solid bindings. I've used all metal px18s, 916s and sth16s, and they all rock. The lightweight-ness of the sth is amazing considering how they perform hardly any different from all-metal 916s.

And about the brakes. 130mm brakes are fairly hard to find and in high demand for massive pow skis. If you didn't live in europe I would trade you in a second! About this though, if you do trade brakes, it has to be with someone else who has sth16s, 916/920s, etc. It has to be with someone who's brakes fit on the wormscrew-type heels (5-screw heels). You can tell the difference by looking at the brake housing, the one you have will have a square-ish back (near the screw) while the ones that don't work have a round back.

HOWEVER, another great thing about salmon brakes is that the brake arms themselves are really easy to swap out, regardless of the brake housing. If you found someone with 90mm or so brakes but were from 912tis or something, turn the brake over and squeeze together the arms to pop them out. Just swap them out making sure you keep your brake housing the same, and voila, perfect brakes!
 
Ohh thx but I think im fucked. im getting the bindnings in like a couple of days and im going skiing for a week in about one and a half weeksand then im done skiing for this winter so theres no way im going to get the brake home for the ski trip if I find any here. BTW noone answered my question? cant i buy just another pair of salomon ski brakes at the ski resort im going to? dont most ski shops have breaks? fuck I shouldnt have bought them. Now I have nothing to ride on the ski trip. I could remove the brakes but hell no. I wont ski without brakes.
 
OKEY SO I GOT A FUCKING EMAIL TELLING ME THIS

"Dear Mr Lindström,

unfortunately we have to tell you that the goods you ordered are out of

stock.

We therefore had to cancel your order. We are very sorry for the

inconveniences this might cause and remain with

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards

Versandabteilung / customer service"

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont know If i should laugh or cry? maybe the both? hahahahahahaha I dont know why but im fucking laughing about it hahahahahahaha wtf is this shit!!!!!! this post can be deleted because it dont mean a shit now. and thanks everyone for the help. GAHH!!!!

 
Sorry man but I'm laughing as hell atm... :DD

Go to some local sport shop and buy some basic park bindings. They're not that diffirent from eachother.

Or buy the bindings from the place you're going on the holiday.
 
He would probably end up paying msrp and get a cheap binsding instead of something bombproof he could use for a long time.

there is nothing wrong with payign full price in shops you support but I can see why he wouldnt want to pay the same prioce for a pair of z12 that he would have paid for a pair of sth16.
 
i am 5'5" -5'6" 135 pounds level III very aggresive park skier.

have a pair of 161 4frnt msp's

just mounted them with a pair of salomon sth 16 bindings today. using them as mainly park skis

 
Man the sth binding are pretty light, i got the sth 12 and like them, but the plastic on them explose when i was trying 270 out ( i hit the rail ), just cosmestic damage btw , they are pretty solid and light, def worth it
 
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