Safety

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I would like to hear the story of your first infraction. No sympathy for skiing closed terrain out west (ec maybe).

But safety class is kinda fucking funny. Enjoy adult ski detention op
 
14109243:-eREKTion- said:
Don't ski closed terrain.
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Not necessarily his fault. When I was at Keystone years ago, I skied from an open groomed run into a tree area that was not signed, roped, or designated as closed in any way. I got to a completely melted out area and had to take off my skis. Yellow jackets saw me and told me that the area was closed and that it was my responsibility to know that it was closed even though it was not roped or signed (I told them that it was not roped or signed; they did not dispute that claim) and they acted like they were being really nice by not taking my pass. Not sure if OP's situation was the same, but considering it's a Vail resort, I wouldn't be surprised, and if that's the case then it's not his fault at all.
 
As far as the first, yellow jackets are dicks a lot of times. Don't slam down slow runs. I usually look to see if there are yellow jackets as I'm coming down, and try and check even more speed if I see them. IF you do get hassled, usually best to dip and leave for the day. Not tell them your name, and just walk away. Don't yell at them or talk shit, but just calmly exit stage left.

As fare as closed terrain, don't do it. Even non yellow jacket mtns will pull tickets and sometimes passes for the season for that. Ski patrol will be on you as hard. Almost always, trails are closed for a reason. There's a huge responsibility on the mountain and patrol to provide a safe skiing experience. Sometimes it's avy danger, sometimes the coverage is super thin, sometimes there are cats working.

I've seen people duck ropes for a pow run early season that went from like 1.5' deep at the top, to like 2" at the bottom of wet shit snow with no base. Was thinking how dumb it would be to get your pass pulled for 2 decent turns, and then a stone grind fest that ended with a sad hike out.

Have seen many times people ducking ropes and going past cat working signs. People are just trying to do their job, nobody is trying to have some guy ski into their cat and get killed.

Also people ducking runs where snowmaking was going on. Either heinous half ice, half glue whales, or half pushed out runs with huge ledges, chunder fields, or froze track marks. Again super sick to ski frozen track pack, def worth getting your pass pulled.

When you think about it there are constant dangers out there that patrol and other departments are trying to mitigate. The few times that maybe a trail doesn't need to be closed, or you don't think it does, are not worth fucking with. If it's closed it's generally for a good reason whether or not you agree.
 
Just to clear stuff up I did not duck a rope into closed terrain, I went down a catwalk to private property and ran into a ski patroller who then took me back to the base of the mountain because I was clearly lost, but I didn’t duck any ropes and just thought that it was a catwalk, which it very much looked liked
 
14109384:MKindt said:
Just to clear stuff up I did not duck a rope into closed terrain, I went down a catwalk to private property and ran into a ski patroller who then took me back to the base of the mountain because I was clearly lost, but I didn’t duck any ropes and just thought that it was a catwalk, which it very much looked liked
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Word, shit happens, the classes seem pretty beat but not that difficult. Def be careful at Vail resorts though. The yellow jackets are out for blood, especially if you seem like more of a park skier.
 
14109384:MKindt said:
Just to clear stuff up I did not duck a rope into closed terrain, I went down a catwalk to private property and ran into a ski patroller who then took me back to the base of the mountain because I was clearly lost, but I didn’t duck any ropes and just thought that it was a catwalk, which it very much looked liked
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Ah, Jerry comment above was correct.
 
14109384:MKindt said:
Just to clear stuff up I did not duck a rope into closed terrain, I went down a catwalk to private property and ran into a ski patroller who then took me back to the base of the mountain because I was clearly lost, but I didn’t duck any ropes and just thought that it was a catwalk, which it very much looked liked
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And patrol reported you for it?
 
That's fucking brutal. I have an Ikon, and have heard alterra is a lot less aggressive with yellow jackets, but in my experience, a couple of pole plants and a wave does a lot to hide the fact that you're going mach 5 thru a semi crowded area.

Also hate to say it, but I make different outerwear choices when I go to mtns with yellow jackets. Don't really have any proof whether it works, but it seems yellow jackets are more likely to profile you if you're wearing a hoodie and have no poles.
 
14111766:finder said:
That's fucking brutal. I have an Ikon, and have heard alterra is a lot less aggressive with yellow jackets, but in my experience, a couple of pole plants and a wave does a lot to hide the fact that you're going mach 5 thru a semi crowded area.

Also hate to say it, but I make different outerwear choices when I go to mtns with yellow jackets. Don't really have any proof whether it works, but it seems yellow jackets are more likely to profile you if you're wearing a hoodie and have no poles.
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Confirmed. Short radius pole plant turns are a deterrent for the yellow jackets.
 
Dang, first I have seen or heard of this. Similar to getting a speeding ticket in your car, you can take a class to drop one ticket off your record in some states. Are we going to need a skiing license to ski in the future?lol
 
Thaynes Canyon doesnt have any private terrain. Pretty easy to follow all those cat tracks out from Pinecone/Homelight/Limelight back to Motherlode or King Con lift but Im positive there arent any private runs. Theres a snowmobile trail they use to get people back to the base and its entirely possible you could have skied that and got busted by patrol which they use all the time. Sounds like thats the case. But yeah there arent any private ski runs on PC side.

You wouldnt be the first person to be accidentally in the wrong place at the wrong time and they're not really into buying peoples stories anymore which sucks. Its best to just stop, listen and say yes/no sir, but also grab their name off their name tag in case they try to spin the story that way you can at least call Jim from wherever the fuck out on his bullshit and being a liar.

**This post was edited on Feb 25th 2020 at 9:17:47pm
 
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