perfect I spent a solid couple hours trying to find that out. And screws are no problem so that dope!13552838:Lamafama said:No but make sure you have the correct screws for mounting them to a ski not a plate. They can be mounted straight to a flat ski. The Ross plate screws have tapped holes on the plate so you will need a different set of screws, easy to pick up though.
13554115:scratchskier321 said:part of reason this binding is so good is because it sits low to the ski. definitely don't use plates.
13554127:Lamafama said:Mounting plates to a flat deck ski is something that requires a different jig to begin with, most plates are mounted with quiver killer type machine screws embedded in the cores from the factory. The type of screw varies massively between different brands of plate. I've had Fischer and Atomic race plates and theres no way on earth I would attempt to bother mounting them on a flat deck.
Some skis respond well to having a riser plate, such as the thinner waisted Kastle's (not I imagine many on NS rock RX lines). But if one did then Markers plate is designed to be a more universal mount, and as such its used on a lot of other skis.
13554130:KarlTheKoolKat said:Hey guys I have a very similar question, I have a pair of tyrolia ff race bindings and they were mounted on a race plate before I took them off and i plan to remount them to a different pair of skis (not for racing). Just to clarify, it is okay to mount them without the race plate? And I have to get new screws? Could I just use the ones that are screwing the race plate into the old skis?
Thanks
13554635:Caucasian_Asian said:The Tyrolia FF 17/18/20 race bindings came with a plate that tied the toe and heel together to let them flex more naturally. I do not believe you can mount them without the plate. The FF plate isn't that tall, it will just add a little weight. But then again the Tyrolia race bindings weren't light to begin with soooooo...
13554635:Caucasian_Asian said:The Tyrolia FF 17/18/20 race bindings came with a plate that tied the toe and heel together to let them flex more naturally. I do not believe you can mount them without the plate. The FF plate isn't that tall, it will just add a little weight. But then again the Tyrolia race bindings weren't light to begin with soooooo...
13554587:scratchskier321 said:and? you posted this because?
13554635:Caucasian_Asian said:The Tyrolia FF 17/18/20 race bindings came with a plate that tied the toe and heel together to let them flex more naturally. I do not believe you can mount them without the plate. The FF plate isn't that tall, it will just add a little weight. But then again the Tyrolia race bindings weren't light to begin with soooooo...
13555220:Lamafama said:Just make sure you have the freelex set for your boot size before you bolt anything down. Aside from that the actual mountings on the Tryolia Race bindings are (different screws for the race plate due to its thickness) they interface with with ski in the same manner as a flat deck.
13555325:KarlTheKoolKat said:Right, yeah so I can use the screws which screwed the bindings into the race plate right (to use to flat mount the bindings) Or should I use the ones in the race plate?
13555535:Lamafama said:Neither, you need the binding screws from the peak series, find a shop that can get you the right ones or use binding freedom inserts.
The screws for the race plates I had were longer and would punch through the skis core. My race plates were about 1.5cm thick.
13555629:KarlTheKoolKat said:How do the inserts work exactly? I mean how do you screw them in/out..