Returned from Hell(bent)

14543037:PartyBullshiit said:
Originals are still available. Posted the link above. Both the 122 and 132’s

Yea i know, but maybe the ripoffs will give k2 the final push to bring the ski back into the line
 
14543048:Quaggy said:
You would probably be paying more for shipping/import than the actual ski

Unfortunately they aren’t shipping to the us. If they would it’s a steal. No import tax because of how low the skis cost.
 
14543051:PartyBullshiit said:
Unfortunately they aren’t shipping to the us. If they would it’s a steal. No import tax because of how low the skis cost.

Its called package forwarders.
 
14543107:PartyBullshiit said:
They wouldn’t use a freight forwarder when asked.

I’ll be in Portugal in oct. They did offer to ship to my hotel.

Don't tell them its going to a package forwarder, you dumb fuck.
 
14543111:skierman said:
Don't tell them it’s going to a package forwarder, you dumb fuck.

And how is it getting there you fucking idiot? You have to give them shipping info which would be the freight forwarder. Or you’d have to have the forwarder pick it up. Which would require a matching id. Which it wouldn’t because they’re a fright forwarder. Thanks for showing how ignorant you are.

Clearly you don’t deal with importing often.
 
14543123:PartyBullshiit said:
And how is it getting there you fucking idiot? You have to give them shipping info which would be the freight forwarder. Or you’d have to have the forwarder pick it up. Which would require a matching id. Which it wouldn’t because they’re a fright forwarder. Thanks for showing how ignorant you are.

Clearly you don’t deal with importing often.

You think they personally check every delivery address?

You can have UPS, USPS, etc. deliver right to shipping forwarders, you ignorant fuck.
 
14543146:skierman said:
You think they personally check every delivery address?

You can have UPS, USPS, etc. deliver right to shipping forwarders, you ignorant fuck.

YOURE A FUCKING MORON. Theyre in Greece. They don’t ship with USPS.

maybe pull your head out of your ass and stop talking out of your shit hole. Read before you speak. For them to ship you have to provide an address. Which when you provide an address in the US they will tell you no. Because they don’t ship to the us. When you try and provide an address for a local freight forwarder. They’re going to say they don’t allow shipping through freight forwarders.

you’re dumb. Have a great day
 
14543162:PartyBullshiit said:
YOURE A FUCKING MORON. Theyre in Greece. They don’t ship with USPS.

maybe pull your head out of your ass and stop talking out of your shit hole. Read before you speak. For them to ship you have to provide an address. Which when you provide an address in the US they will tell you no. Because they don’t ship to the us. When you try and provide an address for a local freight forwarder. They’re going to say they don’t allow shipping through freight forwarders.

you’re dumb. Have a great day

The point is, delivery companies deliver to package forwarders on the reg, you stupid fuck. Its not possible for any ecommerce site to personally inspect every shipping address. Fuck man, you're a jackass.
 
14543186:skierman said:
The point is, delivery companies deliver to package forwarders on the reg, you stupid fuck. It’s not possible for any ecommerce site to personally inspect every shipping address. Fuck man, you're a jackass.

They’re a small ski shop. It’s absolutely easy for them to see where each package is going. You’re just a stupid fuck who’s talking out of his shit hole.

you literally have zero clue what the fuck you’re talking about. I’ve actually spoke with the shop regarding all this already.
 
14543202:PartyBullshiit said:
They’re a small ski shop. It’s absolutely easy for them to see where each package is going. You’re just a stupid fuck who’s talking out of his shit hole.

you literally have zero clue what the fuck you’re talking about. I’ve actually spoke with the shop regarding all this already.

LOL you asked, stupid fuck.
 
14543206:skierman said:
LOL you asked, stupid fuck.

Didn’t ask you shit. You just chimned in with your useless bullshit. As per usual. Trying to sound useful when reality you’re nothing but useless. But thanks for proving that yet again
 
14543251:PartyBullshiit said:
Didn’t ask you shit. You just chimned in with your useless bullshit. As per usual. Trying to sound useful when reality you’re nothing but useless. But thanks for proving that yet again

Homie's got no reading comprehension skills.
 
14543087:skierman said:
Its called package forwarders.

Have perfect reading comprehension skills.

no one asked you about freight forwarders nor the false information you were giving. You just chimed in with your useless information.

congratulations, you’re stupid on multiple levels.
 
14543282:PartyBullshiit said:
Yes. Various models are available

But I can't get them shipped to the US because they don't use freight forwarders? Or am I also just a dumb fuck?
 
14543283:belden... said:
But I can't get them shipped to the US because they don't use freight forwarders? Or am I also just a dumb fuck?

You simply asked can you get them. Didnt mention anything about where you are. If you’re in the states. Yes it’s going to be much harder. Picking mine up in oct.
 
This is hilarious, they've got some 122s in a 189 in a small ski shop in Greece? Seems legit... anyone want to help me figure out how to get a pair to Canada??
 
14543284:PartyBullshiit said:
You simply asked can you get them. Didnt mention anything about where you are. If you’re in the states. Yes it’s going to be much harder. Picking mine up in oct.

LOL hey guys, look at the dumb fuck who asked them instead of just placing an order! What a puuuussssyyyyyyy
 
14543286:milo-mcsenderson said:
This is hilarious, they've got some 122s in a 189 in a small ski shop in Greece? Seems legit... anyone want to help me figure out how to get a pair to Canada??

I could possibly help with getting them to the states if you are willing to wait until next spring as I will be having a container of our belongings being shipped back stateside then. PM me if interested.
 
14543033:PartyBullshiit said:
They’re Chinese. Lol. Legal doesn’t matter to them.

Heritage Labs is a US company started by a TGR dude. Even though they are manufactured in China, he would have to comply with US copyright law. Not sure the details of K2's intellectual property copyrights but probably Marshal just never uses the term 'Hellbent' and it's G.
 
14544316:mattytru said:
Heritage Labs is a US company started by a TGR dude. Even though they are manufactured in China, he would have to comply with US copyright law. Not sure the details of K2's intellectual property copyrights but probably Marshal just never uses the term 'Hellbent' and it's G.

Correct. And manufacturing in China so they can skirt the copyright laws in the US. No reputable US company would copy a design and release it with knock off names. Which is exactly what’s going on here. And why they’re being produced in China. Legal means nothing to them nor does copyright infringement
 
Here's a conspiracy: The OG Hellbent will be re-introduced as the new Sir Francis Bacon in Line's new Bacon collection. Something north of 120+mm which rounds off that collection nicely
 
14543146:skierman said:
You think they personally check every delivery address?

You can have UPS, USPS, etc. deliver right to shipping forwarders, you ignorant fuck.

Yea you honestly expect most people to know the nuances of shipping forwarders?

Keep it together Skierman I know summer is hard and you don't have a lot to work with RN please keep the trolling quality standards that we expect from you.
 
14545295:C.R.E.A.M said:
Yea you honestly expect most people to know the nuances of shipping forwarders?

Keep it together Skierman I know summer is hard and you don't have a lot to work with RN please keep the trolling quality standards that we expect from you.

In the time you took to made these posts, I've shoved your dog into a microwave for longer than it needs to survive and I've impregnated your daughter.
 
14545305:skierman said:
In the time you took to made these posts, I've shoved your dog into a microwave for longer than it needs to survive and I've impregnated your daughter.

Mmmmm, still not impressed. Try one more time.
 
14544319:PartyBullshiit said:
Correct. And manufacturing in China so they can skirt the copyright laws in the US. No reputable US company would copy a design and release it with knock off names. Which is exactly what’s going on here. And why they’re being produced in China. Legal means nothing to them nor does copyright infringement

Hey man, sorry to have missed this thread, it was just emailed to me, but Marshal from Heritage Lab here.

I just thought to clear up a bit that the ski is an homage. As a long-time ski forum member (TGR since 2003 and NS infrequently in the late 2000s) and ski industry vet, I am actually proud to know the original K2 dudes who designed the OG. They are super pumped about the project since they get asked all the time to do a remake, but the chances are "much less than zero".

Legal of course means a lot to me, as I am a one-man brand and not in a position to get tied up in some legal headache, nor would I want to inadvertently piss off my friends. Regarding production specifically, I am fortunate to have worked with many world-class ski production facilities during my career, and after connecting with all of them when I launched Heritage Lab Skis two years ago, I intentionally selected the factory that was best positioned to make the constructions I wanted, deliver the level of fit and finish that I expected, and work with my (small) order volumes. It happened to be in China.

Now that I am aware of this thread, and have made a new login since my old one was tied to a retired email address, I am more than happy to answer any other questions, should someone have them. The point may be moot, however, as the 189s are sold out and there are only a couple pairs of 179 remaining.

Cheers!
 
Just thought to share that the first wave of HB122 just arrived and are shipping out to pre-orders this week.
 
14570362:Marshal said:
Just thought to share that the first wave of HB122 just arrived and are shipping out to pre-orders this week.

Very sick looking Marshal. Also, why is your foundation footing at ground level? Do you not live in a winter haven?
 
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