Regional opinions

PsychicMigration

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Where are you from, what do you think about other regions you’ve never visited, where would you ski first if you can go anywhere. How does what you’ve heard or seen impact what you think without personal experience. As someone from the east it intrigues me to see where people would want to go having never been here and the same for anyone from any region with the reason behind it.

I’d love to get to trollhaugen and I think the Midwest vibe is similar to my experience in southern New England 200-500ft very. Seems like spring out there would not be that great. I also believe east has the best spring skiing but I’d like to try Abasin in spring and Brighton as well. Also Woodward pc looks fun.
 
never skied outside of Norway, (other than summer dryslope in Kläppen) really want to travel more in scandinavia, as there are some really cool places here. will be hard to do because i work as a full time park shaper. would also love to go to the alps in summer or go down to New Zealand for their season.

i'm not the biggest fan of America. many of the things i love have come from there but i can't imagine going. if so it would be mt. Hood.

i think most euro skiers look down at the american skiing, and have no need to go there since we already have it much better over the pond.
 
I was unaware most Euro skiers “look down at American skiing” ?

[video]https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c[/video]

14473622:lil.Boye said:
i'm not the biggest fan of America. many of the things i love have come from there but i can't imagine going. if so it would be mt. Hood.

i think most euro skiers look down at the american skiing, and have no need to go there since we already have it much better over the pond.

OP, I tried like 3 times to write my ideas but too many thoughts to get organized lol

Originally from the southeast. I’ve lived in Tahoe, New Zealand (South Island) Australia (NSW), Finland, and Colorado (western slope and front range). That’s just living and excluded any ski trips elsewhere. Here’s what I’ve learned: anyday is a good day if you’re on snow ?
 
California is nice but inconsistent. Mt hood is the best because you can ski 3/4 of the year. Colorado is played. Utah was soon to be played but Woodward gave it a little push. Midwest is best people are coping hard but I can appreciate the rope tow culture. East Coast from what I can gather is now African Americans snowboarding at big snow.
 
14473671:snowpea88 said:
California is nice but inconsistent. Mt hood is the best because you can ski 3/4 of the year. Colorado is played. Utah was soon to be played but Woodward gave it a little push. Midwest is best people are coping hard but I can appreciate the rope tow culture. East Coast from what I can gather is now African Americans snowboarding at big snow.

you ever been skiing in the midwest?
 
I'm from Northeastern US. I've been to Colorado twice, although I was younger both times and didn't get the opportunity to really ski all the steeps. If I could go anywhere other than the NE (which is my first choice) it would probably be Crested Butte, Colorado. I want to get all along the US and Canadian Rockies (BC moslty). I don't have any particular interest to ski in other parts of the world, although I could see myself skiing in South America if I can afford it.

I can totally see Europeans looking down on American skiing, although I don't know why they would besides for the fact that they look down on most other aspects of America.
 
14473622:lil.Boye said:
never skied outside of Norway, (other than summer dryslope in Kläppen) really want to travel more in scandinavia, as there are some really cool places here. will be hard to do because i work as a full time park shaper. would also love to go to the alps in summer or go down to New Zealand for their season.

i'm not the biggest fan of America. many of the things i love have come from there but i can't imagine going. if so it would be mt. Hood.

i think most euro skiers look down at the american skiing, and have no need to go there since we already have it much better over the pond.

Looking down on American skiers seems pretty close minded. I didn’t know that this was the case at all and I’m pretty surprised to hear that considering the level of stoke people have for European skiers in North America. Even though we all have our differences in opinions I think in general all the regions in North America as a whole support each other and even like some of our stereotypes.
 
14473664:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
I was unaware most Euro skiers “look down at American skiing” ?

[video]https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c[/video]

OP, I tried like 3 times to write my ideas but too many thoughts to get organized lol

Originally from the southeast. I’ve lived in Tahoe, New Zealand (South Island) Australia (NSW), Finland, and Colorado (western slope and front range). That’s just living and excluded any ski trips elsewhere. Here’s what I’ve learned: anyday is a good day if you’re on snow ?

It’s definitely a lot to digest especially having lived in so many places in your case. It took me a little bit to try to write this thread because there’s so much you can get out of seeing peoples responses to something like this and it’s interesting to see how will you see your place until what your actual decision making is when you have an outside view.

you’re right any day on snow is a fantastic day
 
14473675:SteezyYeeter said:
I'm from Northeastern US. I've been to Colorado twice, although I was younger both times and didn't get the opportunity to really ski all the steeps. If I could go anywhere other than the NE (which is my first choice) it would probably be Crested Butte, Colorado. I want to get all along the US and Canadian Rockies (BC moslty). I don't have any particular interest to ski in other parts of the world, although I could see myself skiing in South America if I can afford it.

I can totally see Europeans looking down on American skiing, although I don't know why they would besides for the fact that they look down on most other aspects of America.

I would like to ski revy one time. Maybe he’ll ski too if I can afford it
 
PA vibes are the best. Western PA would be cynical for street riding, too bad snow never sticks around long enough.
 
14473664:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
I was unaware most Euro skiers “look down at American skiing” ?
14473679:PsychicMigration said:
Looking down on American skiers seems pretty close minded. I didn’t know that this was the case at all and I’m pretty surprised to hear that considering the level of stoke people have for European skiers in North America. Even though we all have our differences in opinions I think in general all the regions in North America as a whole support each other and even like some of our stereotypes.

talking skiers in general, but i think many park skiers think that way also

i would say it's more of a European arrogance than anything.

i would say skiing culture in Europe have it very good, and see no need in American skiing. Europe is also where most of the big industry moguls are from. (Völkl, Atomic, blah blah blah..)

there is a bit of a joke in Norway about "the promised land" basically just the famous parks in USA like PC and Breck. but now it's changed out more and more with LAAX.

imo, American skiing looks a bit bloated, the only reason i would go is to see the places i have seen in so many videos.
 
14473622:lil.Boye said:
i think most euro skiers look down at the american skiing, and have no need to go there since we already have it much better over the pond.

Most euro skiers definitely do not look down on american skiing, not sure where you're getting that from.

I can also guarantee that skiing conditions in the US are much better than in Norway, from both a park or big mountain standpoint, and it's not even close. You have plenty of areas in the US with much better parks, much gnarlier/steeper terrain, much lighter snow, and more consistent snowfall. In virtually every aspect of skiing relevant to the skiers on NS, the west coast is objectively superior to Norway, and if you think otherwise you're delusional.

I'd say the Alps and the west coast are a toss-up tho, the west coast generally gets more consistent snowfall, as well as generally better/lighter snow (for the rockies in particular), both have steeps/gnarly terrain, but Europe is generally less crowded, and resorts are much bigger so it's easier to access a ton of terrain without the need to skin up.

I'd personally probably pick the Alps mainly because of less crowds and being able to ski untracked pow in lift-served terrain days after a storm (not really possible in the US, powder fever is out of control here), but it's personal preference.
 
I literally have friends from Austria telling me they want to ski dry Colorado powder.

I’m not going to make this an Americas vs Europe thing because that’s silly. I do think you need to travel though and experience more than just Norway

14473704:lil.Boye said:
talking skiers in general, but i think many park skiers think that way also

i would say it's more of a European arrogance than anything.

i would say skiing culture in Europe have it very good, and see no need in American skiing. Europe is also where most of the big industry moguls are from. (Völkl, Atomic, blah blah blah..)

there is a bit of a joke in Norway about "the promised land" basically just the famous parks in USA like PC and Breck. but now it's changed out more and more with LAAX.

imo, American skiing looks a bit bloated, the only reason i would go is to see the places i have seen in so many videos.
 
14473713:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
I literally have friends from Austria telling me they want to ski dry Colorado powder.

I’m not going to make this an Americas vs Europe thing because that’s silly. I do think you need to travel though and experience more than just Norway

i didn't intend to make the America vs Europe either, but my comment escalated pretty quickly.

i probably should, but i will probably be stuck in Norway for winterseason for some years to come.

if it felt like i was sending too much hate towards the US then i'm sorry.
 
It’s all good. It just came off as a little elitist and aggro but misunderstandings happen.

Honestly I like both for different reasons. I’ve always wanted to visit Norway too going all the way back to the days of Andreas Håtveit bursting on the scene. Funnily enough, I was helping a guy on here in Norway regarding boots. Come to find out he was from my hometown and lived in Norway now. Small world.

14473721:lil.Boye said:
i didn't intend to make the America vs Europe either, but my comment escalated pretty quickly.

i probably should, but i will probably be stuck in Norway for winterseason for some years to come.

if it felt like i was sending too much hate towards the US then i'm sorry.
 
Grew up skiing Sugarbush in Vermont, now live in Taos NM and have skied PNW, BC, Colorado, Utah, Alaska, and Wyoming so I'll try to mostly stick to places I haven't skied.

Europe seems to have the best terrain in the world but pretty meh snow, Japan the best snow in the world and mostly meh terrain, I've always figured American west skiing is the sweet spot of great snow and great terrain at the cost of crowds and, well, money and Canada is like American skiing but a little better in every way. I'd go to the alps or japan in a heartbeat, looks like such a good experience.

NZ always seemed like it had the Europe problem of great terrain but inconsistent snow but with even worse snow. Frankly I'd probably rather go to Chile or Argentina but idk.

Montana seems to have a similar appeal to interior bc (Revy, Kicking Horse, whitewater, etc) but not quite as good so frankly I don't have a huge desire to try it compared to other places, other than Bridger Bowl, that place looks legit.

If money were no option probably some crazy bespoke trip to Kazakhstan or Gulmarg, India. Those places just look incredibly amazing but very hard to attain as a semi-broke American without significant backcountry experience or time off.
 
14473723:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
It’s all good. It just came off as a little elitist and aggro but misunderstandings happen.

Honestly I like both for different reasons. I’ve always wanted to visit Norway too going all the way back to the days of Andreas Håtveit bursting on the scene. Funnily enough, I was helping a guy on here in Norway regarding boots. Come to find out he was from my hometown and lived in Norway now. Small world.

If you ever go to Norway, Håtveit builds parks at Geilo, and is always down to chat. Had some early laps with him two years ago, he’s the kindest and most stoked person i have met, that guy is somethin else.
 
14473724:IsaacNW82 said:
Grew up skiing Sugarbush in Vermont, now live in Taos NM and have skied PNW, BC, Colorado, Utah, Alaska, and Wyoming so I'll try to mostly stick to places I haven't skied.

Europe seems to have the best terrain in the world but pretty meh snow, Japan the best snow in the world and mostly meh terrain, I've always figured American west skiing is the sweet spot of great snow and great terrain at the cost of crowds and, well, money and Canada is like American skiing but a little better in every way. I'd go to the alps or japan in a heartbeat, looks like such a good experience.

NZ always seemed like it had the Europe problem of great terrain but inconsistent snow but with even worse snow. Frankly I'd probably rather go to Chile or Argentina but idk.

Montana seems to have a similar appeal to interior bc (Revy, Kicking Horse, whitewater, etc) but not quite as good so frankly I don't have a huge desire to try it compared to other places, other than Bridger Bowl, that place looks legit.

If money were no option probably some crazy bespoke trip to Kazakhstan or Gulmarg, India. Those places just look incredibly amazing but very hard to attain as a semi-broke American without significant backcountry experience or time off.

RIP Sugarbush lol.

4th best ski area for me, 2nd choice for home mountain (1st being MRG).
 
14473734:SteezyYeeter said:
RIP Sugarbush lol.

4th best ski area for me, 2nd choice for home mountain (1st being MRG).

Not long ago I'd say sugarbush was the best in the east, just super well-rounded for freeride and park without being too crowded or corporate soul-less. Now ikon pass crowds, firing john egan, it kills me to watch
 
14473739:IsaacNW82 said:
Not long ago I'd say sugarbush was the best in the east, just super well-rounded for freeride and park without being too crowded or corporate soul-less. Now ikon pass crowds, firing john egan, it kills me to watch

What would you say is the best now? and yeah the John Egan thing sucked. Ikon crowds are for sure pretty tough to deal with. i'll be at MRG mostly though this year :)

Don't know how long you ago you were there but their seasonal programs are probably the best in the East.
 
14473744:SteezyYeeter said:
What would you say is the best now? and yeah the John Egan thing sucked. Ikon crowds are for sure pretty tough to deal with. i'll be at MRG mostly though this year :)

Don't know how long you ago you were there but their seasonal programs are probably the best in the East.

I think mount snow now Killington still dominate the east. Seems like loon and sugarbush have bit less presence.
 
14473744:SteezyYeeter said:
What would you say is the best now? and yeah the John Egan thing sucked. Ikon crowds are for sure pretty tough to deal with. i'll be at MRG mostly though this year :)

Don't know how long you ago you were there but their seasonal programs are probably the best in the East.

ah man, probably mrg or jay. idk. stowe terrain and snow is awesome but they are wayyyy too rich and wayyy too wack. If you dabble in backcountry, the stowe area does that well though. northern nh and maine have a few good spots too but the snow quality really struggles there, even more so than vt.

I learned to ski at sugarbush when I was 2, and only moved away in summer 2020. Born in nh but spent most of my skiing time in vt before moving there full time. Plenty of time as mini-bears, micro-blazers, sugar-bears, all that shit as a kid haha and even a year racing for GMVS. Also learned to downhill bike there and I still think sugarbush is an absolute cult classic in the bike world but thats another story for another audience. Man even though west is just better in may ways I do miss vermont sometimes
 
14473746:PsychicMigration said:
I think mount snow now Killington still dominate the east. Seems like loon and sugarbush have bit less presence.

If you're dedicated to park killy is great. but if you leave the park its a whole lotta flat, crowded trails. so i guess depends on what you are after.

**This post was edited on Oct 27th 2022 at 9:27:04pm
 
Sounds like Northstar

14473750:IsaacNW82 said:
If you're dedicated to park killy is great. but if you leave the park its a whole lotta flat, crowded trails. so i guess depends on what you are after.

**This post was edited on Oct 27th 2022 at 9:27:04pm
 
14473750:IsaacNW82 said:
If you're dedicated to park killy is great. but if you leave the park its a whole lotta flat, crowded trails. so i guess depends on what you are after.

**This post was edited on Oct 27th 2022 at 9:27:04pm

Mid season yeah and your right peace park definitely has a huge pull for me. Place does get crowded you gotta work from section to section when it’s busy. OL is fun once chute melts out at mrg or anything at bear in general. I value spring season length highly so that’s why I want to try bush too and really late season jay. Sounded like they had a really strong spring with the mild temps.
 
14473746:PsychicMigration said:
I think mount snow now Killington still dominate the east. Seems like loon and sugarbush have bit less presence.

Yeah mount snow dominates definitely, but it's probably my least favorite resort. the park is of course amazing though.
 
14473734:SteezyYeeter said:
RIP Sugarbush lol.

4th best ski area for me, 2nd choice for home mountain (1st being MRG).

14473739:IsaacNW82 said:
Not long ago I'd say sugarbush was the best in the east, just super well-rounded for freeride and park without being too crowded or corporate soul-less. Now ikon pass crowds, firing john egan, it kills me to watch

I mean bush parks are still sick so…
 
I'm originally from SE Michigan and grew up skiing places like Pine Knob, Cabrafe Peaks, Boyne Mtn and Highlands, but moved to UT when I was 12. I respect the midwest ski culture moreso nowadays living out west because it's a truly down-to-earth vibe and people genuinely love this shit back east. I moved to Utah when I was 12 w/ my family in like '07, bounced around the state, wound up living in PC for a bit as a teenager, and now live in SLC again. I have a freestyle team background, coached for a minute, but now chose the patrol life for a second.

Last season was the first season I truly got to go travel and ski some cool places as a coach. Got to go to BC twice, Targee/Wydaho, and skied a lot back home here in Utah. I really appreciated how different the vibes and cultures were in some of the places I've skied. Maybe because Its because ive become a bit jaded seeing Utah kinda turn into what it is lately with all this infighting, but it was really nice to sit back and see people still enjoy their communities near ski hills for a change. Especially places like BC with Squamish, Whistler, and Pemberton, and Golden. I really enjoyed my time up there. It was interesting and kind-of relaxing.
 
14473784:DeebieSkeebies said:
I'm originally from SE Michigan and grew up skiing places like Pine Knob, Cabrafe Peaks, Boyne Mtn and Highlands, but moved to UT when I was 12. I respect the midwest ski culture moreso nowadays living out west because it's a truly down-to-earth vibe and people genuinely love this shit back east.

Nice man! Ever happen to get up to Mount Bohemia?
 
14473793:SteezyYeeter said:
Nice man! Ever happen to get up to Mount Bohemia?

No, but fortunately my family lives back there now and want to go back sometime to go with my niece, and would love to go back up the UP in the winter sometime. It's a cool place from what I hear.
 
14473798:DeebieSkeebies said:
No, but fortunately my family lives back there now and want to go back sometime to go with my niece, and would love to go back up the UP in the winter sometime. It's a cool place from what I hear.

I haven't been but it's really gnarly. It's a pretty large complex that spans across multiple mountains (3 sides of a mountain and then 1 or 2 more with hiking options). Unfortunately it's basically the absolute northest you can get, on the peninsula off of the Upper peninsula, but that's what allows it to get a ton of snow.
 
14473750:IsaacNW82 said:
If you're dedicated to park killy is great. but if you leave the park its a whole lotta flat, crowded trails. so i guess depends on what you are after.

**This post was edited on Oct 27th 2022 at 9:27:04pm

Definitely crowded, but I don't know about "flat". The woods are really cool and I'm hoping to be able to fully explore them sometime, plus being able to navigate through Killi backcountry without having to spend the night or get rescued is something to aspire to lol
 
Dec- Colorado (my house Steamboat)

Jan-Japan

Feb-France

Mar-Austria

April -Back to CO

May - Tahoe/Mammoth

June/July - the gym

Aug/Sept -ARG/Chile

Oct/Nov -the gym
 
From CT, home mountain southie/my snow, grew up skiing with ur favorite skiers, and your favorite skiers’ favorite skiers. New England owns this sport.
 
I've never skied east of i-25 but I imagine the midwest is like 15% cte ridden 14-22 year olds that can ski rails, 25% raddads who ski gs skis in 1990's spyder attire, 30% families trynna make some holiday turns in rental gear, and 30% rednecks in snowmobile jackets and jeans.

Europe i just imagine dudes skiing groomers and dudes with ice axes and shit and nothing in between.
 
I feel kind of blessed to have grown up skiing in the Washington cascades. It’s kind of like in the dark knight rises where Batman learns how to climb out of that pit and after that it’s like literally nothing is hard for me I have been trained to thrive in what most people consider terrible.
 
Peoples saying their region/resort is the best for whatever reason but then have never properly skied anywhere else are dumb.
 
Seems good but in reality MRG has way better secrets to offer. Can’t justify a pow day at Lilly when the ikoners swarm.

14473802:SteezyYeeter said:
Definitely crowded, but I don't know about "flat". The woods are really cool and I'm hoping to be able to fully explore them sometime, plus being able to navigate through Killi backcountry without having to spend the night or get rescued is something to aspire to lol
 
14473793:SteezyYeeter said:
Nice man! Ever happen to get up to Mount Bohemia?

What’s up with the triple blacks and basically everything being a double black. Is it legit or some ploy to get Midwest skiers to think it’s the Rockies.
 
14473861:PsychicMigration said:
What’s up with the triple blacks and basically everything being a double black. Is it legit or some ploy to get Midwest skiers to think it’s the Rockies.

A lot of it is probably not as hard as you may think from looking at that map, but from what I could tell (YT videos and such) that triple black section is legit, with cliff bands and stuff. I don't think it'd pass for triple blacks out west but it's probably decently challenging.
 
14473860:PsychicMigration said:
Seems good but in reality MRG has way better secrets to offer. Can’t justify a pow day at Lilly when the ikoners swarm.

Yes true. Mad River has great off piste stuff, don't know that much about killington. As i alluded to before, their backcountry is tempting but often leads to lost people. Sugarbush is really good too.
 
Been skiing the southeast since i started skiing, the park group around here are the best people around. Only other places ive skied were Hood and copper for about a week. very weird change in ski culture out there compared to here
 
14473881:Thegenericskier said:
Been skiing the southeast since i started skiing, the park group around here are the best people around. Only other places ive skied were Hood and copper for about a week. very weird change in ski culture out there compared to here

South east like NC?
 
14473861:PsychicMigration said:
What’s up with the triple blacks and basically everything being a double black. Is it legit or some ploy to get Midwest skiers to think it’s the Rockies.

Went up there for the first time last year and got a second trip after that and had so much fun both times. Its basically all glade skiing. You can take some really long runs (15 minutes ish) if you go out towards the edge of the resort. Bus picks you up and brings you back to the lifts. Also some pretty steep terrain off the lift that you wouldnt expect to find in the midwest. Lake effect snow gives it crazy season totals and tons of pow days. Season passes are $110, cant go wrong. Definitely something every midwest skier should experience.

As a park rat with a flavor for all mountain riding, I'm pretty content at home in MN. Skied out west only once so planning to experience more.
 
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