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Dunno if many of you have watched rampage, its kind of just a big mountain downhill mountain biking event. Red bull is the primary sponsor. At their last event, it was brought up how much prize money the top guys win.

Its not much.

Now skiing is not about money, and I dont know how much the top guys get for the dew tour etc, but should red bull and the other sponsors throw more money at the sport?

One event provides hundreds of pictures and vids to the public which im sure fills the pockets of the corporate dudes. Do the athletes get anything off of it?

Thoughts
 
Top contests are paying 20k-30k for first, usually contest riders have deals with their sponsors where they will match their winnings, etc. The problem with money in the ski industry isn't contests, its everything else.
 
Red Bull is a business… skiers come and go

they are raking in the dough and if you think that they "split profits" or give extra money because of a larger turn out than expected, you're wrong

holding a contest with their corporate name in the title is simply advertising
 
That is a question bikepibike put out there. Should all contenders should bring home cash just for attending the event?

The points on the no side are well known: the athlete gets invited to a lottery based on skill and guts. The cash prize for first is pretty crazy and the stunts are to your own risk. Its a way to gain fame and ride with friends.

The yes side is more about compensation. Without riders there are no rampage. All footage, royalties and rights are ultimately denied to any contender.Its like you got a sick shot and you can produce it, air it and get any money over those rights that people watch for free on youtube. There have been injuries for the contest. Even in practice, if the athletes gets hurt, he pays his way back early.

In freestyle mogul contests; there was no money in winning. You are going for the olympics for the sponsorship prizes and nothing else. However the sport has insurance that you must buy in case you do get hurt. But there are strict guidlines and you can get fucked anytime.
 
Lets not forget that pros generally are not in the scene because of the money, if they were then they would be shit because the cost to benefit payout that skiing provides isn't enough ever. We ski because we love it, mountain bikers ride because they love it.

Skiing is possibly one of the most expensive sports to get into, thats why the hill is generally filled with rich white kids and families who tend to only go skiing once or twice a year for vacation purposes.

Although its a bummer its true, the sport just isn't designed for a lot of pros to be making a lot of money yet.
 
13562231:gnarballsianm said:
Lets not forget that pros generally are not in the scene because of the money, if they were then they would be shit because the cost to benefit payout that skiing provides isn't enough ever. We ski because we love it, mountain bikers ride because they love it.

Skiing is possibly one of the most expensive sports to get into, thats why the hill is generally filled with rich white kids and families who tend to only go skiing once or twice a year for vacation purposes.

Although its a bummer its true, the sport just isn't designed for a lot of pros to be making a lot of money yet.
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Bobby Brown's house would like to disagree with that.
 
topic:Doc.stompenomics said:
Dunno if many of you have watched rampage, its kind of just a big mountain downhill mountain biking event. Red bull is the primary sponsor. At their last event, it was brought up how much prize money the top guys win.

Its not much.

Now skiing is not about money, and I dont know how much the top guys get for the dew tour etc, but should red bull and the other sponsors throw more money at the sport?

One event provides hundreds of pictures and vids to the public which im sure fills the pockets of the corporate dudes. Do the athletes get anything off of it?

Thoughts
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The thing you're leaving out is that contests usually pay pretty far down. Its common to pay all the way down to 16th in a major contest.

Some contests even have an appearance fee. So if you show, you get paid at least enough to cover expenses. You win, you get big dough and as Heath said most sponsors do prize matching.
 
13562242:Mr.Bishop said:
The thing you're leaving out is that contests usually pay pretty far down. Its common to pay all the way down to 16th in a major contest.

Some contests even have an appearance fee. So if you show, you get paid at least enough to cover expenses. You win, you get big dough and as Heath said most sponsors do prize matching.
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I miss your old icon :(
 
13562242:Mr.Bishop said:
The thing you're leaving out is that contests usually pay pretty far down. Its common to pay all the way down to 16th in a major contest.

Some contests even have an appearance fee. So if you show, you get paid at least enough to cover expenses. You win, you get big dough and as Heath said most sponsors do prize matching.
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13562341:jlens05 said:
I miss your old icon :(
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Fucking tru bring it back
 
13562073:CabbyArrant said:
I'm actually writing a paper on how the athletes are in many ways exploited
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Its amazing what Bros will do for a free Taco Bell and the chance at 5 min video segment...

The challenge is supply and demand. In that there will always be dudes ready to huck their meat for nothing more than their 5 min of fame.... its bread into the culture of action sports.

Although, I don't think its truly nefarious...sure, today companies like Red Bull have big coin, and the could probably afford to pay more.. but historically, it was just a bunch of bros and small label companies, out there shredding and having a time. No one got rich, everyone just got stoked... then, some where down the road, they figured out how to cash in.

We (the consumer) are probably to blame.
 
13562792:Hugh_Conway_jr said:
Its amazing what Bros will do for a free Taco Bell and the chance at 5 min video segment...

The challenge is supply and demand. In that there will always be dudes ready to huck their meat for nothing more than their 5 min of fame.... its bread into the culture of action sports.

Although, I don't think its truly nefarious...sure, today companies like Red Bull have big coin, and the could probably afford to pay more.. but historically, it was just a bunch of bros and small label companies, out there shredding and having a time. No one got rich, everyone just got stoked... then, some where down the road, they figured out how to cash in.

We (the consumer) are probably to blame.
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You should read this article

http://m.vitalmtb.com/features/Opin...-Red-Bull-Rampage-Changed-Our-Perspective,932
 
13562073:CabbyArrant said:
I'm actually writing a paper on how the athletes are in many ways exploited
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Exploited is huge exaggeration. I am interested in your points for your paper would you mind sharing some?
 
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