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13859781:theabortionator said:
People with guard dogs or generally loud or neglected dogs. I hope your fucking dogs runaway.

I'm going to buy a dart gun and shoot them if they don't shut the fuck up.

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kqwaJrqg4uk[/video]
 
13859788:shredasaurus said:
my dog barks more than a guard dog and hes a yorkie, really really small dog. he doesnt shut the fuck up and thinks hes the man i sometimes come really close to abusing him lol

At least their inside mostly I would guess. I think where I'm living this winter might make me hate dogs.
 
13859833:theabortionator said:
At least their inside mostly I would guess. I think where I'm living this winter might make me hate dogs.

If there's a bunch of rich people who are neglecting their dogs you could try and offer dog walking services. Get paid to hang out with dogs, and the ones who are being left solo for too long will maybe chill out and bark less after they've had some exercise.
 
13859840:ChangeCashMoney said:
If there's a bunch of rich people who are neglecting their dogs you could try and offer dog walking services. Get paid to hang out with dogs, and the ones who are being left solo for too long will maybe chill out and bark less after they've had some exercise.

I'm pretty busy with work anyway, also not a fan of dobermans that are in guard dog mode and probably have too much energy. I used to "walk" my aunts dog sometimes when I was a kid on a scooter.

I'm kind of just hoping they chill the fuck out. Apparently everyone within 100 yards has at least one dog. A few are pretty mellow but they all set each other off and it's fucking annoying.

Also at the end of the week or next week I'm switching to grave shift so I'll be sleeping days. Going to have to go ear plugs between the dogs, and the poorly built structure I live in.

Might buy one of those old school alarm clocks just to make sure I can here it. I hate rocking ear plugs when relying on an alarm. But that's going to be a guarantee.

Idk. IT's all good. I can deal with it, pretty easy going. It just gets annoying. At least my direct neighbors on either side don't have dogs. Walls are paper thin.
 
13859840:ChangeCashMoney said:
If there's a bunch of rich people who are neglecting their dogs you could try and offer dog walking services. Get paid to hang out with dogs, and the ones who are being left solo for too long will maybe chill out and bark less after they've had some exercise.

This. Worked at a dog kennel in park city.

Rich people love not taking care of their own animals. Some dogs were there for months on end. Shit was wack.
 
I mentioned this place being poorly constructed. More regarding the paper thin walls and how the dry wall doesn't go to the top, just the beams. Also the flooring is janky/loud.

Well apparently the whole building shakes when people are fucking. Great way to wake up.
 
13859900:theabortionator said:
I mentioned this place being poorly constructed. More regarding the paper thin walls and how the dry wall doesn't go to the top, just the beams. Also the flooring is janky/loud.

Well apparently the whole building shakes when people are fucking. Great way to wake up.

My roomie has an asian girlfriend who literally fucking screams bloody murder when the dude gives her a stabbing. It sucks lol
 
13859901:DeebieSkeebies said:
My roomie has an asian girlfriend who literally fucking screams bloody murder when the dude gives her a stabbing. It sucks lol

Never understood that shit....i guess some people just need the whole world to know they are rooting in order to get off lol
 
My parents always wonder why I get pissed off at family type events, and it’s cause they non stop embarrass me. Please just shut the fuck up around this one attractive non family member, please.
 
13859901:DeebieSkeebies said:
My roomie has an asian girlfriend who literally fucking screams bloody murder when the dude gives her a stabbing. It sucks lol

JEsus that blows. She's not that loud but def verbal. "Oh yeah oh yeah"

I wanna burst through the wall and be like

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Idk. Can't you fuck other times or at least be "quiet"?

I guess at least it's only 6:30 here so they'll be done when I go to sleep. Also he's barely able to walk, can't talk so we're probably in for a long one. At least they're down stairs so my fucking room isn't shaking.

Stoked that in 2 days they're leaving for 3 weeks. Can't fucking wait.
 
Holy shit. These people are fucking oblivious that other people actually exist. I get that a ton of people are like that, but it's amazing. Maybe they'll extend their vacation by a few months. Fucking stoked for them to be gone.

I would look for alternative places but the housing is pretty tight right now. At least I have a room and a parking spot. Next year I'm definitely going to do it proper.

There were some sick 4 and 5 br houses with a bit of land, lots of parking and good views. Only problem was finding enough people. Had enough trouble just trying to fill a 3br condo that I ended up having to give up.

Next 3 weeks are going to be sick though.
 
13860231:theabortionator said:
Holy shit. These people are fucking oblivious that other people actually exist. I get that a ton of people are like that, but it's amazing. Maybe they'll extend their vacation by a few months. Fucking stoked for them to be gone.

I would look for alternative places but the housing is pretty tight right now. At least I have a room and a parking spot. Next year I'm definitely going to do it proper.

There were some sick 4 and 5 br houses with a bit of land, lots of parking and good views. Only problem was finding enough people. Had enough trouble just trying to fill a 3br condo that I ended up having to give up.

Next 3 weeks are going to be sick though.

Welcome to tahoe where californiaites don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves.
 
13859924:Profahoben_212 said:
Never understood that shit....i guess some people just need the whole world to know they are rooting in order to get off lol

For real. Every girl ive been with has kept their shit under control. Id honestly probably be turned off if the girl screamed at the top of her lungs. I guess i wont know until/if it happens but as of right now i appreciate girls who dont know blow out their vocal cords.
 
Total privilege post. My parents back in the day told me they would match 50% of what I put into retirement. Little did they know I've actually been living comfortably enough to max out my 401k contributions. So I can't blame them for not keeping their word with that and I've never really brought it up because I feel like I don't need their money and I want them to retire. But they made the mistake of telling me they donated $15k to a boys choir in like England or some shit. Also fine, but I also told my dad about bitcoin a year ago around the time they donated that money and he shrugged it off saying it was a bad investment and a bubble. Well fuck, if he would have just put a portion of that 15k into bitcoin instead... I don't know if I should tell my parents how they fucked up or if that will just create more doubt in their life. Also we got a financial planner and she convinced my wife to not invest any money until she has 8 months of savings in a bank saving account. Look what the stock market and bitcoin has done since then.. I hate these old school financial planners. So it's ok to assume me and my wife couldboth lose our jobs for 8 months and not be able to sell any of the assets we have, but I'm a crazy prepper for buying gold and silver? f'k that
 
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You can like him if you want but I don’t think there’s anyone I wanna punch in the face more than Trump right now. Stop fucking tweeting about how great you are for being an arrogant pile of orange shit and fix this country so my parents don’t have to pay more than double what they use too. Not saying the news is dishonest, but a lot of this shit is physical proof that he sucks cocks.

I honestly believe if you hold his face and scream to him about how he sucks and isn’t an incredible man he’d just quietly say something like “nope” or “you’re wrong” in his stupid confident tone.

Also shoutout Meeks.
 
13860471:Titus69 said:
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You can like him if you want but I don’t think there’s anyone I wanna punch in the face more than Trump right now. Stop fucking tweeting about how great you are for being an arrogant pile of orange shit and fix this country so my parents don’t have to pay more than double what they use too. Not saying the news is dishonest, but a lot of this shit is physical proof that he sucks cocks.

I honestly believe if you hold his face and scream to him about how he sucks and isn’t an incredible man he’d just quietly say something like “nope” or “you’re wrong” in his stupid confident tone.

Also shoutout Meeks.

Honestly....i think this would be a great idea(with or without Trump and his narssacistic ass)

They should keep tabs on the major networks and have a % or something of factual stories that you should be able to look up. News needs to be held accountable in some fashion.
 
13860478:Profahoben_212 said:
Honestly....i think this would be a great idea(with or without Trump and his narssacistic ass)

They should keep tabs on the major networks and have a % or something of factual stories that you should be able to look up. News needs to be held accountable in some fashion.

Oh absolutely, no news outlet is honest to the core anymore, but just cause one likes to call you out or accuse you the worst (idk why he truly hates CNN) doesn’t mean you have to be a pussy about them. I use to hate how the news ripped on trump for everything but god he’s such a fuckhead. A lot of this shit you can’t make up lately, some of his policies suck but he’s just such a POS in general it makes it worse, like does he really think he’s gonna win Times “man of the year?”

Now that Time replied to him saying he’s way out of line for saying that, he’ll probably start bashing on them.
 
13860349:CoreyTrevor said:
Total privilege post. My parents back in the day told me they would match 50% of what I put into retirement. Little did they know I've actually been living comfortably enough to max out my 401k contributions. So I can't blame them for not keeping their word with that and I've never really brought it up because I feel like I don't need their money and I want them to retire. But they made the mistake of telling me they donated $15k to a boys choir in like England or some shit. Also fine, but I also told my dad about bitcoin a year ago around the time they donated that money and he shrugged it off saying it was a bad investment and a bubble. Well fuck, if he would have just put a portion of that 15k into bitcoin instead... I don't know if I should tell my parents how they fucked up or if that will just create more doubt in their life. Also we got a financial planner and she convinced my wife to not invest any money until she has 8 months of savings in a bank saving account. Look what the stock market and bitcoin has done since then.. I hate these old school financial planners. So it's ok to assume me and my wife couldboth lose our jobs for 8 months and not be able to sell any of the assets we have, but I'm a crazy prepper for buying gold and silver? f'k that

I was going to say definitely leave it, but if they donated 15k to some random choir I'd bring it up and be like "thanks guys".

I get the whole keeping saving for a rainy day thing. 8 months seems a little overkill though if you really needed it, you could get that money out, even if it's at a loss.

As far as bitcoin I wish I had just done it. I still don't understand enough about it. I guess it's getting so legitimate it can't really get shutdown, but that was one of my fears. I thought about getting in when it was upper 200s low 300s. I didn't know if it would go much above 700 and how long that would take. Never really though it'd go over 1k. Fuck.

At least I tripled up on silver 8 or 9 years ago. Did the same thing though. Told a bunch of people about it when it was 10.17 it eventually got up to 26 within a few years. I sold all mine by low 30s though. Ended up needing to replace an engine in my car and I had done alright.

Fuck though. People got rich on bitcoin. If I had gotten in on anything low I would get the fuck out though. Good for them, shame on me lol
 
Prepare yourselves kiddos.. this rant might be a longer one.. or it might be short.

BUT HOLY FUCK why are people so terrible? I feel like I had some good people in my life the past 2-3 years, but now it's just so hit and miss. People I still care about and have done a ton for treat me like shit.. don't really talk to them anymore, but it's like really?? Do you just not give a shit or is your memory worse than a bag of rocks that you can't remember all the shit I did for you?

I also live in a town where 45% of people are Mormon (I was raised Mormon, some of family/best friends are Mormon), 45% hate the Mormons, then you have 10% of people who are actually chill. Some of the Mormons really are annoying and hypocritical, but hating on them isn't going to resolve a damn thing. It just makes it worse. Then I have "friends" who are chill with mormons, but they've started doing fucking coke and meth. WHAT THE FUCK?!

Is it really so hard to find people that dont do coke/meth, don't hate everyone, actually recognize what you do for them, and aren't lazy as fuck?

I realize why I don't have friends here. It's because

A) I don't do cocaine

B) I don't listen to nasty trap rap

C) I'm not Mormon

D) I don't hate Mormons

E) I don't like to sit on my ass all day

And the list goes on...

Is it possible to find a cute blonde girl that appreciates the nice things you do, isn't religious in a negative way, doesn't hate others, isn't lazy, isn't stuck up, isn't shallow.. etc etc etc

Why the fuck am I still typing y'all get the gist.

Can't wait for the snow to fall, have a feeling I'm gonna do a bit of solo shredding this year, but that's fine. Gonna do lots of explorin while staying safe, shredding to good music. Super stoked to link up with the ole homies in Wydaho later this winter and go to Reno for a few weeks as well this spring.

Life is bonkers. But so am I.
 
So one of my homeboys from my class in school dropped off about 4 years ago. People thought he was going schizophrenic or something and he told most of my friends including my wife to fuck off and not talk to him. At that point he had some money saved up and he bought a car and disappeared. Duded showed back up a couple of weeks ago. Sounds like he's been living out of his car and occasional hotels since we saw him last and had been doing less and less frequent programming consultant work off and on. Sounds like he hasn't worked in a long time now and he's really hard up. I really want to help the guy but I've got my own issues and my wife understandably doesn't want him to use our address or anything. I can help him with a little cash but that's not sustainable. Fucking bummer to see someone struggling and not know what to do.
 
Do employee ride day they said, it will be fun they said.

Woke up early to wait for too long for the bus to leave northstar. Also took the slowest route ever.

Riding was really good at least.

Bus left me at Kirkwood. Supposed to work tomorrow but clearly that wont happen. At least i found a ride to south lake so i can sleep at a friend's.

Then I have to conjure my way to northstar to get my car/work. Also my shoes are in the bus.

I get they said meet at 3 but I was there at 3:04 nobody. Would have been almost on time but had to pee since it was a 2 hour drive in that rig.

Pretty stoked.

Good day of riding but the last employee ride day Ill fuck with. Ugh. Hopefully I dont get into shit if Im late or no show for work tomorrow. Already messaged my boss. I would honestly rather be at work, its just getting there thats a problem.
 
13860850:.lencon said:
Is it possible to find a cute blonde girl that appreciates the nice things you do, isn't religious in a negative way, doesn't hate others, isn't lazy, isn't stuck up, isn't shallow.. etc etc etc

Nope, time to go gay
 
13861218:Poindexter. said:
when do you work?

find a ride yet?

Was supposed to work tomorrow but called off. I think I have a ride tomorrow. I hitched a ride to south lake earlier and staying at a friends here. Would have liked to work causeI have shit to do and weve been light on hours since were not open. Will be stoked to get back up there though.
 
P1) Why do massive mountain not uses the PEEP's system to keep people out of the parks that don't belong there. It would be safer for everyone if the parks were left to those who are hitting features and knowing the proper signs and signals for when features are safe to hit or not safe to hit.

P2) Do people not understand the point of a singles line, say a family of four get in and then get a chairlift to themselves. The singles line is there for people who are riding solo and don't give a fuck who the ride the lift with. If you wanna ride with your kids, wait in the 4 person line like everyone else.

/rant
 
Car alarm from 4 or so for a have hour then again at 5:30. That was chill. Also the stupid dogs across the street are back.

On the plus I got my shoes back today and got to ski a bit with a buddy.
 
13862887:B.Gillis said:
Security, if it wasn't me and my boss I would've totally introduced myself but couldn't think of a good way to be like "yah we're internet friends"

Word. I was a little worried because they were MIA since tuesday. Saw an email when I got home today telling me they were getting sent up to you guys at the end of the day, but had already grabbed them. Thanks for calling and figuring out where they were.

I just switched to swing yesterday since we opened. Probably rocking swing for 2 weeks ish then going to grave for the rest of the season.

I'll be out riding a decent amount here and there.
 
13862925:Poindexter. said:
my roommates girlfriend just moved into a new place, but i guess you cant really say she moved in to it BECAUSE SHES STILL FUCKING STAYING HERE.

YOU DONT LIVE HERE.

THIS IS MY HOUSE.

YOU DONT CLEAN SHIT. YOU DONT PAY SHIT. YOU ARE SHIT. FUCK YOU

kick her out then. let her know she's not welcome to live there unless she helps out. or make her bf pay her part
 
I bought a pair of FT classics 2 years ago thinking they'd be a worthy investment and they'd last for years. Well since then I've had probably only 10 days on them, just barely broke them in, and 2 buckles have broken. When I put them to a tighter setting as soon as I latch the buckle down they just skip right back to the loosest setting. It's the top buckle and the toe buckle both on the right boot so I have one boot now that's just super loose. I'm out of the 1 year warranty so I'm basically fucked into spending $40+ on new buckles.
 
Bought a vacuum, broom, and mop today so I could clean my shithole of an apartment.

What kind of wooks don't own any of the above in a place they've been living semi long term?

My room was fucked when I moved in. The price was the best option but I've been planning on getting a vacuum or at least borrowing one since the first day here.

To be able to walk around your home barefoot without all kinds of weird shit getting stuck to your feet.

The amount of stuff I pulled up in the vacuum was pretty impressive. Was thinking of renting a rug doctor but the wooks are going to probably fuck the place again. Although it would be sweet to do my room. Might be worth the 30 bucks. Either way just stoked to have vacuumed it, place was shady as fuck.

Also cleaned and mopped the bathrooms and kitchen. Stoked to have it all to myself the next 2 and a half weeks. Going to be bummed when they come home.
 
Well my phone didnt charge last night cause the port is all fucked, shut down entirely, eventually turned on at work but was frozen, got it up to 23% after I scheduled an appt at Apple down the road, then it just stopped and would only show the white screen and the dead battery sign. Went into Apple after a shitty day of work, turns out the dumbshit lady scheduled me for Wednesday without even asking what day i wanted... considering I said i could come tonight after 5, so the kid tried to help as much as he could which means he tried cleaning my charge port. Came home to try and get it back on just like all day at work and now its shattered.

Shoulda got this fixed in the summer but assumed it wouldnt fuck me all the sudden. So fuck you Apple, Im done until you can make a phone that lasts, my old ipod touch even got fucked up pretty quick in HS.

Any good androids for cheap? Trying to get a Samsung of some sort, parents have no complaints with theirs...
 
13863540:Titus69 said:
Well my phone didnt charge last night cause the port is all fucked, shut down entirely, eventually turned on at work but was frozen, got it up to 23% after I scheduled an appt at Apple down the road, then it just stopped and would only show the white screen and the dead battery sign. Went into Apple after a shitty day of work, turns out the dumbshit lady scheduled me for Wednesday without even asking what day i wanted... considering I said i could come tonight after 5, so the kid tried to help as much as he could which means he tried cleaning my charge port. Came home to try and get it back on just like all day at work and now its shattered.

Shoulda got this fixed in the summer but assumed it wouldnt fuck me all the sudden. So fuck you Apple, Im done until you can make a phone that lasts, my old ipod touch even got fucked up pretty quick in HS.

Any good androids for cheap? Trying to get a Samsung of some sort, parents have no complaints with theirs...

LG G6
 
13863540:Titus69 said:
Well my phone didnt charge last night cause the port is all fucked, shut down entirely, eventually turned on at work but was frozen, got it up to 23% after I scheduled an appt at Apple down the road, then it just stopped and would only show the white screen and the dead battery sign. Went into Apple after a shitty day of work, turns out the dumbshit lady scheduled me for Wednesday without even asking what day i wanted... considering I said i could come tonight after 5, so the kid tried to help as much as he could which means he tried cleaning my charge port. Came home to try and get it back on just like all day at work and now its shattered.

Shoulda got this fixed in the summer but assumed it wouldnt fuck me all the sudden. So fuck you Apple, Im done until you can make a phone that lasts, my old ipod touch even got fucked up pretty quick in HS.

Any good androids for cheap? Trying to get a Samsung of some sort, parents have no complaints with theirs...

whats your price range yo
 
13863540:Titus69 said:
Well my phone didnt charge last night cause the port is all fucked, shut down entirely, eventually turned on at work but was frozen, got it up to 23% after I scheduled an appt at Apple down the road, then it just stopped and would only show the white screen and the dead battery sign. Went into Apple after a shitty day of work, turns out the dumbshit lady scheduled me for Wednesday without even asking what day i wanted... considering I said i could come tonight after 5, so the kid tried to help as much as he could which means he tried cleaning my charge port. Came home to try and get it back on just like all day at work and now its shattered.

Shoulda got this fixed in the summer but assumed it wouldnt fuck me all the sudden. So fuck you Apple, Im done until you can make a phone that lasts, my old ipod touch even got fucked up pretty quick in HS.

Any good androids for cheap? Trying to get a Samsung of some sort, parents have no complaints with theirs...

the one plus 5t has everything the iphone x has for half the price.

500 bucks gets you

128gb of storage

face unlock

touchID on the back

portrait mode

amoled display

better battery

its pretty much an android version of the iphone 8+ with every feature the iphone x has.

if i went back to android that would probably be my first choice.
 
13863544:sambuswell said:

13863554:Chubz. said:
whats your price range yo

Got a $24 a month for 2 years, to hell with paying full price.

Sent the Galaxy s7, my dad seems to like the ones hes had and ive always wanted one, hopefully getting it in tomorrow. Still gotta pay like $150 off of the iphone though, not like it was gonna make it far, thought about getting a new phone out of impulse during my lunch for a few weeks. Thing was so fucked, my droid razr was pretty bad but started to shit the bed like 7-8 months later than the iphone did.
 
Just watched the local news with my dad and there was absolutely no mention of Bears Ears. There was mention of multiple global and national issues but nothing about Bears Eaers. This makes me so angry. How can this shit still be happening without any acknowledgment in the news?!
 
13863627:taylornicky said:
Just watched the local news with my dad and there was absolutely no mention of Bears Ears. There was mention of multiple global and national issues but nothing about Bears Eaers. This makes me so angry. How can this shit still be happening without any acknowledgment in the news?!

Because that's not local news. At least not for you.
 
A group project/presentation is due today and I'm the only one who has contributed their part. Worst case I'll just awkwardly present what I did while the other people in the group look bad. Still fucking annoying though, fuck group projects.
 
My speaker fell off last year and got run over by a cat. Wanted to get another. Walmart doesn't sell them anymore. Found them on the bed bath and beyond website.

I ordered 2 almost 2 weeks ago. Hadn't heard anything or gotten them so checked the website yesterday to figure it out and it said "order canceled".

I called about it and nobody knew why. Was on hold for ages at multiple times. Then still nothing. Finally they transferred it to another department that were going to check it out and call me back. Just called back today because I hadn't heard anything. Nobody had any idea what happen.

Useless whore on the phone told me "Contact your bank because there probably was a problem with your bank or debit card info". Like bitch, I've used my cc on a bunch of stuff the last few weeks and have had 0 problems. That cc hasn't given me issues while traveling all over the world. But suddenly it just shits out because I ordered speakers from your website? Obvious bullshit. And there wasn't even a note about that being the reason it was canceled, she was just making shit up.

Also MOST places and by that I mean pretty much all places will email you if there is a problem with your billing information, payment didn't go through, order was canceled because out of stock etc. NOTHING.

Instead of being smart and saying "I'm sorry about that but if you'd like I can place the order again(maybe give you shipping that isn't complete shit) maybe I would have done it". Instead she was useless so I decided to buy it from another site. Unfortunately they'll old models so I couldn't find them on amazon but I found them on FYE. Just sucks I'm going to have to wait a week to get something I should have already had.

When you fuck up, be nice, and don't call out the customer. Don't people understand customer service? Not that I had any intention of ever buying anything from them anyway, but if for some reason I see something they have that I want, I'll find it elsewhere.

Thank jebus for amazon. They always do right by me.
 
13863810:Raarl said:
A group project/presentation is due today and I'm the only one who has contributed their part. Worst case I'll just awkwardly present what I did while the other people in the group look bad. Still fucking annoying though, fuck group projects.

So one guy did add some slides a few hours before, but it was all random bullshit almost completely unrelated to the topic. He also showed up to class in drag and was kind of tweaking out. Worst fucking group presentation ever, hopefully those two dumbasses don't bring my grade down.
 
Weather calls for 10-14 on Thursday

hoping we get at least 6” and cold weather so we can FINALLY GET THIS FUCKING SEASON STARTED

seems like the entire country has been skiing for 2 months already
 
Past 2 AP Statistics quizzes I’ve taken I’ve gotten over 100 percent on. Test on the unit comes along today and there is literally fucking ZERO of the material we’ve been working with. Sat there in frustration for 45 minutes and filled in random shit in the multiple choice portion of it. I’ll be lucky to get above a 50%. Fuck.
 
13864222:Chubz. said:
Weather calls for 10-14 on Thursday

hoping we get at least 6” and cold weather so we can FINALLY GET THIS FUCKING SEASON STARTED

seems like the entire country has been skiing for 2 months already

Not really the entire country, CO,OR,VT I guess. East coast needs a storm, so far go about .8" like mid November but then shit up to current shit now. Waking up for 8am work and it's only like 44 is bull, should be freezing my sack off by now.
 
13864622:Titus69 said:
Not really the entire country, CO,OR,VT I guess. East coast needs a storm, so far go about .8" like mid November but then shit up to current shit now. Waking up for 8am work and it's only like 44 is bull, should be freezing my sack off by now.

Midwest resorts have been open for what seems like at least a month. Utah people have been skiing since like October. No resort skiing but bonezone and guardsmans count to me. This is the third season in a row where it’s either opening near or after Christmas. Shits whack
 
13864802:Chubz. said:
Midwest resorts have been open for what seems like at least a month. Utah people have been skiing since like October. No resort skiing but bonezone and guardsmans count to me. This is the third season in a row where it’s either opening near or after Christmas. Shits whack

Yeah my home mtn should be open by now and maybe will this weekend, we just need some natural snow
 
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