Race and athletic ability.

Most of the stuff on this issue is bullshit because of political correctness, which always downplays genetics in every issue. I posted an article that wasnt biased, but from all the bullshit you have read you think ITS biased. The same situation exists with the black/white 15 point iq gap in america. Most political correctness machine backed sources will say its because of discrimination. Yeah, like white people made you stupid.
 
I came into this thread wayyyyy too late, and didn't really feel like filtering out all the troll posts, but what I do have to add is that I ran cross country and track in high school and there was definitely an aspect that I saw that definitely was genetic. I trained extremely hard throughout my high school track and XC seasons, and never quit in the off season, but there was certainly a limit and only so high I could peak, along with others. I ran in San Diego and had ridiculously competitive runners in D1. If anyone has heard of Darren Fahy, he was one of the best runners in the nation for high school, I ran against him when he ran a 4:08 1600m and an 8:54 3200m. And was there when he placed 14th at nike nationals in san diego. Very impressive, but when I ran against him, we talked a lot and discussed differences in workouts, and it really wasn't much different. It wasn't that I trained harder and burned out, but I do feel it's genetic. People on my team trained just as hard as I did, but weren't as good. Fahy's parents were also phenomenal runners, so I imagine that helped. So as far as different races as a whole having more talent than others in distance running, I don't think it's at all impossible to say that there is truth in that. Some people think that it's bad or not appropriate to think that one race could be superior in some way but I don't see the problem in recognizing that, especially when I consider my experience in high school. I can't imagine a lot of other people don't think that either from having sports experience. Especially with something like running where it's entirely physical with no talent needed, like ball sports etc. (not saying those sports don't require physical ability, they require both)
 
Ok my opinion comes from some of the exact same studies your 'unbiased' article you posted.

But I can see where your opinion is rooted, I don't see the point in discussing it anymore. We probably both have more important things to be doing.
 
You dont even see how biased most of the journalism is. An unbiased person would obviously look towards genetics, but from day one you have been reading biased shit that has tainted your view on the matter. The worst part about it is that you know genetics play a role but in order to feel completely self righteous you fight anything that could be perceived as having racist elements. Science is racist. Stop lying to other people about shit you dont even believe. Being racist and being maliciously racist however are 2 different things. Saying that east africans have a genetic advantage is racist. So what. Its not hurting anybody. So quit your tirade about environment and culture. Everybody knows its genetic and the worst part is YOU know it too
 
Ive been a runner for the better part of my life and ran a 413 mile in a d1 program. In the circles of track and xc people, its not even thought about whether or not genes play a role in running talent. Everybody knows they do. Everybody knows that 495 out of the fastest 100m times ever run were run by people of west african descent. Everybody knows that west african short distance dominance is genetic. But you suppose that east african long distance dominance is environmental? Haha. Just quit dude. Stop lying to people about something you know in your heart is true
 
Alright case closed, Coling ran D1, and 4 laps around a track. He has spoken to everyone, and the results are in, I don't know what I'm talking about, because everyone already knows East African's are the fastest.
 
"We were supposed to read that in one of my college classes. I read the first ten pages and got the drift"

Coling's credibility is now very questionable
 
Imagine a person playing basketball their whole life and not realizing that black people on avg can jump higher than white people. Yeah its like that
 
Basicly, i knew what the whole book was going to be about and even though dawkins has a super high iq, everything he wrote in the book is fairly common sense. I skimmed through the rest but it was just evidence for his thesis, which i agreed with from the getgo based on what i already knew about genetics
 
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