No.Quarter
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Help me out NS, I am thinking about slimming down my quiver. I currently ski the 2014/15 ON3P Jeffrey 114 181cm, 11/12 ON3P Wrenegade 192cm, 2012/13 Surface One Life 189cm, and 2016/17 Liberty Sequence 182cm. I ski them in that order with the jeffs getting the most use.
Towards the beginning of last season I took my old pair of Liberty Morphic's into a shop for a base grind and they fucked them up so bad they had to be replaced with the Sequences, I really liked the morphics for ripping on springtime groomers and bumps and I had even taken them out on some corn skiing days on some of the steeper stuff at breck and a basin and they handled them surprisingly well. So for most of last season I was skiing the Jeffreys almost every day at Bridger on slushmans and the ridge, mostly just bombing through chop and variable stuff and I was really happy with how they performed, even when it got warm and slushy when I would have probably busted out the morphics. So this season after almost a year of miscommunication and waiting for replacement Sequences, I finally got them and I'm just not a fan. They get bucked around so easily in variable stuff and aren't that much more maneuverable in bumps, and really aren't that special on the few groomers that bridger has. Their only redeeming factor is that they are light when I shoulder them on hikes. I end up skiing so much slower though variable stuff, which is most of bridger at this point, and I'm always wishing I was on the Jeffs.
So I wan't to replace them, but also slim down my quiver by a pair so I'll be ditching the jeffs as well to get rid of some overlap.
I absolutely love the 11/12 wrenegade (112mm underfoot i think), but they are so much ski that I really have to be willing to charge all day to get enjoyment out of them, it feels like if I try to go too slow or turn too much they just don't really work. And they cant pop off of anything compared to the jeffs.
Now I'm considering the Kartel 98 and 108 and the wren 98 and 108 as my new daily ski, the old wrens will still be my pow ski and the surfaces are rock skis at this point. Would I benefit much from the narrower kartel on the firmer days since winter seems like it is dying? I have really liked the balance of playfulness and stability in variable stuff on the jeffs, but would I find a narrower and slightly shorter wren take away how much of a workout my big wrenegades are? Also going custom and adding carbon stingers is an option as well possibly. I'm most intrigued by the K108 but I want some more opinions.
A bit about me: 5'11" 150lbs, I ski Bridger bowl, I like to charge through shit when it gets rough rather than slow down sometimes, I really like bump skiing and am willing to lug around a wider ski in them, I only hit cliffs if its a deep day, but still have a really playful style, but i'm not spinning or anything.
also another random note, if I got say cease and desist graphics on a pair of kartels, would they still day cease and desist or kartel?
Towards the beginning of last season I took my old pair of Liberty Morphic's into a shop for a base grind and they fucked them up so bad they had to be replaced with the Sequences, I really liked the morphics for ripping on springtime groomers and bumps and I had even taken them out on some corn skiing days on some of the steeper stuff at breck and a basin and they handled them surprisingly well. So for most of last season I was skiing the Jeffreys almost every day at Bridger on slushmans and the ridge, mostly just bombing through chop and variable stuff and I was really happy with how they performed, even when it got warm and slushy when I would have probably busted out the morphics. So this season after almost a year of miscommunication and waiting for replacement Sequences, I finally got them and I'm just not a fan. They get bucked around so easily in variable stuff and aren't that much more maneuverable in bumps, and really aren't that special on the few groomers that bridger has. Their only redeeming factor is that they are light when I shoulder them on hikes. I end up skiing so much slower though variable stuff, which is most of bridger at this point, and I'm always wishing I was on the Jeffs.
So I wan't to replace them, but also slim down my quiver by a pair so I'll be ditching the jeffs as well to get rid of some overlap.
I absolutely love the 11/12 wrenegade (112mm underfoot i think), but they are so much ski that I really have to be willing to charge all day to get enjoyment out of them, it feels like if I try to go too slow or turn too much they just don't really work. And they cant pop off of anything compared to the jeffs.
Now I'm considering the Kartel 98 and 108 and the wren 98 and 108 as my new daily ski, the old wrens will still be my pow ski and the surfaces are rock skis at this point. Would I benefit much from the narrower kartel on the firmer days since winter seems like it is dying? I have really liked the balance of playfulness and stability in variable stuff on the jeffs, but would I find a narrower and slightly shorter wren take away how much of a workout my big wrenegades are? Also going custom and adding carbon stingers is an option as well possibly. I'm most intrigued by the K108 but I want some more opinions.
A bit about me: 5'11" 150lbs, I ski Bridger bowl, I like to charge through shit when it gets rough rather than slow down sometimes, I really like bump skiing and am willing to lug around a wider ski in them, I only hit cliffs if its a deep day, but still have a really playful style, but i'm not spinning or anything.
also another random note, if I got say cease and desist graphics on a pair of kartels, would they still day cease and desist or kartel?
