Quitting Weed

Smoking weed every day is not that bad for you either way.

I understand it affects people differently but I function at a pretty high output rate in school. I really just don't smoke before reading because I find it hard to read critically. Not trying to flaunt that I smoke like every day but I do not think it makes everyone lazy and useless.
 
12973539:Zimmerman said:
Smoking weed every day is not that bad for you either way.

I understand it affects people differently but I function at a pretty high output rate in school. I really just don't smoke before reading because I find it hard to read critically. Not trying to flaunt that I smoke like every day but I do not think it makes everyone lazy and useless.

Like I said, I work over 50 hours a week. So it's not like I'm a complete burn out. (well that's debatable I guess).

I used to think just like you. I am what people would consider a high functioning stoner. Do everything stoned. But it does catch up to you. At least it did to me.

So lets see I am 30 years old. I started blazing my senior year in highschool. Blazed hardcore all the way through 5 years of college. When I got out of college I stopped smoking as much because I had to get a job. (drug test).

Then I met my ex-wife 2 years after college. I then smoked pretty much every day for the 5+ years.

Combine me being stoned every day, with depression, is a recipe for disaster (for me at least)

And also inhaling smoke of any kind is not good for your lungs or body. While weed smoke may not be that bad for you, it does increase your risk of copd, and breathing problems.

Like you said reading critically, is hard for me stoned. I find my self re-reading the same sentence wondering what I just read.

My short term memory is poor, and weed is one of the reasons to the demise of marriage. My ex-wife doesn't smoke. How you would like to be around someone who is blazed all hours of the day, when you were stone cold sober? Not cool man.

Bottom line I need a break. Big time. Need to be able to think clearly, feel energized. I feel soo dull, and foggy all the time. This needs to change.
 
12973520:-benedetto said:
For sure it has kept me in a bunch of times. Now I look forward to going out for a drink on the weekends as a treat. The gym is a great release as well and will help in appetite and sleep after quitting. The munchies catch up with you quick. I used to eat a whole jar of peanut butter for fun when stoned.

Dude, I know exactly what you mean! Peanut butter and myself have an interesting relationship. Mad mad mad heartburn.
 
12973539:Zimmerman said:
Smoking weed every day is not that bad for you either way.

I understand it affects people differently but I function at a pretty high output rate in school. I really just don't smoke before reading because I find it hard to read critically. Not trying to flaunt that I smoke like every day but I do not think it makes everyone lazy and useless.

It def doesn't. It's just a shitty stereo type. For me it was motivation. I would get high and I would do fucking work.

Some people it's the golden medicine they need, other people it's like drinking and just to get a little weird on the weekends. Either way it just depends on the person.
 
12973576:theabortionator said:
It def doesn't. It's just a shitty stereo type. For me it was motivation. I would get high and I would do fucking work.

Some people it's the golden medicine they need, other people it's like drinking and just to get a little weird on the weekends. Either way it just depends on the person.

Not getting into a marijuana debate. But yes it does! It is a downer man! Not an upper! Many people including myself are able to do daily function activities high as hell.

People think it's the golden medicine, but for most it truely is not.
 
12973585:speedin said:
Not getting into a marijuana debate. But yes it does! It is a downer man! Not an upper! Many people including myself are able to do daily function activities high as hell.

People think it's the golden medicine, but for most it truely is not.

For me it's neutral. Makes me feel good, have deeper thoughts and laugh a bunch. But, when I was a daily smoker it would have me focus on more negative past actions than positive ones. Like I would think back to something minor I did earlier and get paranoid I looked dumb or something. That aspect I hate about it. Another example is sometimes I would get really paranoid and think my girlfriend was lying or I would fabricate stories in my head that were negative. Since I quit we haven't fought once. I mean we would only argue once every other month but since we've been a lot happier. So, it definitely doesn't kill aniexty, it causes it.

I smoked a bowl yesterday for the first time in 35 days and I never laughed so hard watching the new Tosh.0. It was great smoking like I was drinking, just one bowl not all day. I look forward to getting this job so I can smoke occasionally on weekends.

Didn't make me lazy at all. But, I would sometimes skip out on hitting the bar or I would go and be awkward because I was high. So, in the social aspect is a positive thing quitting.
 
I was smoking multiple times per day for the past year. Lacrosse started up and I realized I was in horrible shape, so I am trying to cut down usage. Defiantly challenging because of things people already mentioned like getting to sleep and eating. It's been about two weeks now and instead of smoking everyday I have cut it down to roughly 3 times a week or less.

I haven't really noticed any difference yet, besides my lungs feeling a little more clear.

I am hopefully moving to Denver this summer, so that isn't gonna help...
 
12973910:WordupVT said:
I was smoking multiple times per day for the past year. Lacrosse started up and I realized I was in horrible shape, so I am trying to cut down usage. Defiantly challenging because of things people already mentioned like getting to sleep and eating. It's been about two weeks now and instead of smoking everyday I have cut it down to roughly 3 times a week or less.

I haven't really noticed any difference yet, besides my lungs feeling a little more clear.

I am hopefully moving to Denver this summer, so that isn't gonna help...

You need to invest in a good vape my friend
 
I feel like this is the stoner confession page.

Mine:

I've been smoking almost daily for the almost 4 years with some peeks and lulls. I'm in the process of cutting down but being injured makes it hard. I'm at the point now tho where I can go to the gym on a regular basis along with pt so that should give me something more to do.
 
12968159:louie.mirags said:
for the millionth time man.. It is a psychological addiction. Before I quit I could not imagine going without it. I smoked before school, after school, on break from school, I had to smoke sometime before work, before dinner, after dinner, all damn day. I don't know what I would do without it because I always made sure I had it. I imagined life to be dreadfully boring without it. Spending so much money on it. That's addiction. Sounds like you're in denial. When I was a stoner I was also afraid to admit I was addicted, even though I know I was. It definitely jacks your body's reward system.

Now I am aware of how freeing it feels to be sober, I can ease back into smoking occasionally (after I land this job). Perhaps the best thing is the social aspect. No more not being social or missing shit to smoke. No more replaying minor events in my head and making them negative. No more being paranoid about stupid shit; almost ruining my current relationship for example.

Pick up a heroin habit then try to quit then youll have a clue what addiction is. Weed doesnt directly influence the reward system in your brain, so quitting it is a fuckong joke compared to quitting a drug that does. No, irritability isnt wd
 
12970599:Labattski said:
Wait for the nightmares to start happening every night after stopping it sucks

this happened to me haha ive been smoking for like a year and half pretty much everyday and rarely remember my dreams. a few weeks ago i quit for like 10 days cause i was pretty sick. i wanted to wait till i was back at 100% to smoke again and the last like 3 days i was having some fucking crazy dreams. one i remember was like a walking dead episode... i was with a group of people and then we were getting chased by zombies and had to like jump off cliffs into water to get away and then we found this abandoned ferry terminal and shit haha it was so gnarly.

im gonna be moving to australia for 6 months in september so im going to quit while i am there. i dont think ill have access to it there like i do now so im hoping that will help, but sleeping without it fucking sucks. its going to pretty much cold turkey so any tips to help make it easier?
 
12974240:Spss said:
Pick up a heroin habit then try to quit then youll have a clue what addiction is. Weed doesnt directly influence the reward system in your brain, so quitting it is a fuckong joke compared to quitting a drug that does. No, irritability isnt wd

You're such a badass!!!!

Plus, the point has been said several times that weed is causing the irritability. Being sober helps cancel that out.
 
12974240:Spss said:
Pick up a heroin habit then try to quit then youll have a clue what addiction is. Weed doesnt directly influence the reward system in your brain, so quitting it is a fuckong joke compared to quitting a drug that does. No, irritability isnt wd

While heroin is the devil and is for sure worse.

To say that withdrawal from weed is a fuckin joke is pretty closed minded.

Addiction comes in many different forms, and effects people differently.

My good friend kicked heroin habit by himself!!!!

He didn't use methadone, or suboxin, he did it by himself.

Addiction has a lot to do with someone's mental state. Whether that he heroin or weed.

Side note day 2 of no weed. When i get to a week of no weed, I'm going to quit cigs.

If I can use weed sparingly and not smoke cigs, I know I will feel better.
 
12974479:speedin said:
While heroin is the devil and is for sure worse.

To say that withdrawal from weed is a fuckin joke is pretty closed minded.

Addiction comes in many different forms, and effects people differently.

My good friend kicked heroin habit by himself!!!!

He didn't use methadone, or suboxin, he did it by himself.

Addiction has a lot to do with someone's mental state. Whether that he heroin or weed.

Side note day 2 of no weed. When i get to a week of no weed, I'm going to quit cigs.

If I can use weed sparingly and not smoke cigs, I know I will feel better.

That dude is a no good troll. Anyway, keep it up man.
 
12974520:-benedetto said:
That dude is a no good troll. Anyway, keep it up man.

Thanks buddy. Strange today, I feel like I have taken adderall. Sooooo much more energy then before. I realize that smoking that morning bowl was doing nothing but making me a zombie infront of my work station all morning.

I think I am going to purchase an E-Cig, to help me quite smoking. I know a few people that a have quite smoking using hte E-Cig. They slowly reduce the amount of nicotine in their liquid to where eventually it contains no Nicotine, and then they stop completely.

Coughing up black shit, has scared the shit out of me.
 
12974687:speedin said:
Thanks buddy. Strange today, I feel like I have taken adderall. Sooooo much more energy then before. I realize that smoking that morning bowl was doing nothing but making me a zombie infront of my work station all morning.

I think I am going to purchase an E-Cig, to help me quite smoking. I know a few people that a have quite smoking using hte E-Cig. They slowly reduce the amount of nicotine in their liquid to where eventually it contains no Nicotine, and then they stop completely.

Coughing up black shit, has scared the shit out of me.

Not a bad idea using an e-cig. I quit 2 years back using the gum and lozenges but it's the same idea. Start chewing gum to keep ya occupied and you'll eventually realize the stench left behind after smoking a cig. I'll admit though, since quitting bud, I picked up a nasty habit of smoking black and milds but I hate it. Gonna attempt to kick the habit pronto
 
12974726:-benedetto said:
Not a bad idea using an e-cig. I quit 2 years back using the gum and lozenges but it's the same idea. Start chewing gum to keep ya occupied and you'll eventually realize the stench left behind after smoking a cig. I'll admit though, since quitting bud, I picked up a nasty habit of smoking black and milds but I hate it. Gonna attempt to kick the habit pronto

Black n Milds make me gag when I inahle. Almost puked one time.
 
10334856:RubberSoul said:
no it doesnt. nothing's worse than people blaming their own mistakes on weed. "oh well i smoked the mildest drug in the world, and am lazy, it must be the weed's fault." man up and take responsibility for your actions.

it's as if i told you guys the only time i blaze during the day is before running sometimes (that part is true), and since i run at least 5 miles every time, weed makes you energetic and good at running. of course it doesnt, it's just that im a person, making decisions to do things, after i happen to smoke some grass. don't be a lazy sack of shit and get your shit done and you wont have to blame your mistakes on something else like a child

that isnt directly to you, smashmouth, i really like a lot of your posts, this post is just directed at the multitudes of people who pull this shit. this "weed made me lazy" shit is just too stupid to read all the time. while we're at it, can all the people that suck ass at life just stop blazing? youre making us look bad

i think weed makes you apt to be lazy but not lazy. say for example you are on the couch and rip a bowl your mindset becomes "might as well settle in". all depends on your intentions.
 
Anyone that thinks cannabis dependence isn't real isn't doing their homeworkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_dependence. as of last May it is medically recognized as a disorder in the new dsm-5.

In other posts throughout the thread, heavier smokers complain of being unable to sleep or eat well,these are two mere physical symptoms. It really depends on how heavy a smoker you are, how many years you have been smoking etc.

I know people that smoke up to an eighth a day for many years and when trying to quit face withdrawal symptoms such a extremely sweaty hands, night time bedsweats, extreme irratability, insomnia, loss of appetite,vivid crashing dreams/nightmares, lasting usually for 2-5 weeks. Bear in mind these are extremely heavy smokers but to say that marijuana is not addictive and you felt nothing when you stopped means probably you havent smoked enough for enough years, you are young and in essence still "fresh". give it a decade and you shall see.
 
12975438:jfp said:
Anyone that thinks cannabis dependence isn't real isn't doing their homeworkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_dependence. as of last May it is medically recognized as a disorder in the new dsm-5.

In other posts throughout the thread, heavier smokers complain of being unable to sleep or eat well,these are two mere physical symptoms. It really depends on how heavy a smoker you are, how many years you have been smoking etc.

I know people that smoke up to an eighth a day for many years and when trying to quit face withdrawal symptoms such a extremely sweaty hands, night time bedsweats, extreme irratability, insomnia, loss of appetite,vivid crashing dreams/nightmares, lasting usually for 2-5 weeks. Bear in mind these are extremely heavy smokers but to say that marijuana is not addictive and you felt nothing when you stopped means probably you havent smoked enough for enough years, you are young and in essence still "fresh". give it a decade and you shall see.

I am a little irritable, having a hard time falling a sleep, slight decrease in appetite, but the worst (for me) is the consistent sweating. Holy shit! My palms are always sweaty, but last night I had to change my boxers and t-shirt 3 times, because I kept waking up soaked.

Like I said I have been blazing pretty heavily for the past 10 years. The past 5 more so.

Besides that, I feel soo energized it's unreal. Feel like I haven taken Adderall. I am also able to concentrate better at work.

I am shooting for 8 weeks clean, then just smoke on Sundays, or a few times a month.

No need for me to be blazing like I have been. Does nothing but hinder me.
 
12976024:speedin said:
I am a little irritable, having a hard time falling a sleep, slight decrease in appetite, but the worst (for me) is the consistent sweating. Holy shit! My palms are always sweaty, but last night I had to change my boxers and t-shirt 3 times, because I kept waking up soaked.

Like I said I have been blazing pretty heavily for the past 10 years. The past 5 more so.

Besides that, I feel soo energized it's unreal. Feel like I haven taken Adderall. I am also able to concentrate better at work.

I am shooting for 8 weeks clean, then just smoke on Sundays, or a few times a month.

No need for me to be blazing like I have been. Does nothing but hinder me.

Try some exercise and it'll help with appetite, irrability, and sleep for sure man!!
 
full week in, I took two dabs 2 days ago because my friend scooped a 1.6k JP Toro Frothaloon and I had to appreciate it.
 
10202316:Wall_Nut said:
Cold turkey is easy if you give yourself reasons to quit.

I quit a little over a month ago, and it's the best I've ever felt. I still get down, but it's a lot easier to bounce back. Anyway, here's some reminders that helped:

1. I'm in college, I don't have time for that shit.

2. I'm a more sociable and generally happier person.

3. Weed achieves bliss, not happiness.

4. I have more energy and focus to devote to my passions

5. Weed achieves bliss, not happiness.

.....Just my .02

hahaha it does indeed feel great to quit. usually things get real intense for a day in the inbewtween phase then its all good. And sleep you just gotta get used to again sober

I replied to this cause almost all the reasons you listed are partially why i tell myself its ok to smoke so much

1. Im in college, i have straight A's, i can get high whenever i please

2. Im more sociable and happy high

3. weed makes me realize i gotta work for my bliss and cant get sucked into tv or another mindless activity

but my reasons are bad reasons

4. I focus better with less interference when high
 
12976651:Phil-X- said:
I agree, but if anything it made me not want to smoke more because I got uncomfortably high

Smoking dabs after any sort of break is uncomfortable for me, I turn down free oil most of the time now, fuck that shit
 
Smoking weed is awesome. But if you do it too often you tend to enjoy it less because you are less physically sensitive to the feeling and it's easier to take the whole thing for granted. I mean, nothing wrong with getting a little tolerance, but in the end it's all about balance. What's the point of smoking so much if it's cutting into your enjoyment of blazing in the first place? That's why I wanna cut down to once a day, and then just a few times a week.
 
7 weeks now green free and i feel fucken great. i loved smoking weed multiple times a day. i was smoking as soon as i got up before work. it got to the point where i was hitting my bong sometimes a dozen times a day. i enjoyed it but i started to get really fucken paranoid so i said fuck it and dropped it. ill eventually smoke again but only from time to time if someone were to bust out a joint. theres no happy medium with weed. life is great with it, and great without it.
 
I smoked everyday for about 7 years or so (sophmore year in HS to senior year in college). I went through various phases of smoking, where some of them I did EVERYTHING high, and other times where I would smoke only once or twice a day.

This year, with a job promise after graduation, I stopped smoking while I was looking for work. It kind of sucks at first, but at this point, smoking barely even got me high and I felt like it was kind of a waste of money anyways that just made me lazier and unsocial and wanting to sit on the couch.

I was informed of when I would be tested when I accepted a job, so I smoked again for a month or two, then stopped again a bit over a month ago. I still hang out with people who smoke every single day multiple times a day including my roommate so it can be frustrating at times but honestly if you can't say no, you should work on your self control.

The hardest part for me is the habit forming aspect. When I sit down with a bunch of friends to watch a movie and everyone is smoking a joint, its hard not to want to smoke it too. But it's not bad. Weed really isn't that cool, although I didn't always that view so I can see why other people are caught up in it.
 
12978119:m1k3vb said:
Lol if America is the real world then please kill me now

Oh give me a fucking break! We live on the same landmass divided up by made up borders. To think Canada doesn't have its own problems is just ignorant. We're all people.
 
12978123:louie.mirags said:
Oh give me a fucking break! We live on the same landmass divided up by made up borders. To think Canada doesn't have its own problems is just ignorant. We're all people.

Ok, I agree, we're all people, but to just accept a stupid and invasive practice like company drug testing as part of living in the "real world" is wrong. I would say that anything that comes from the vast majority of politicians or corporations these days is just about the farthest thing from "reality" you could get.
 
12978139:m1k3vb said:
Ok, I agree, we're all people, but to just accept a stupid and invasive practice like company drug testing as part of living in the "real world" is wrong. I would say that anything that comes from the vast majority of politicians or corporations these days is just about the farthest thing from "reality" you could get.

I agree. My good friend got fired from his job because of a random drug test. Weed. Stupid because he was very very good at his job.

All drugs should be legal. Think about it. Do you not do heroin because it's illegal? No, I don't do heroin because it's fucking awful and I would never put that shit in my body.

Side note. I'm going over to my buddy's house today to watch the hawks game. Gonna be hard not to smoke.
 
Quit around this time last year, and I can't recommend it more.

I have a feeling weed is subversively more dangerous than we know yet. I mean this mentally. Anecdotal at least, I've noticed that weed is the drug that changes people the most after they start using it. I don't know if "lazy" is the right word, but it makes you okay with doing nothing, I remember getting really "profound" thoughts from it that were just really basic ideas. The worst part is the anxiety and this kind of "hazy" depression.

I don't know if it's fair to say, but take a look at a lot of people who don't smoke weed: they are usually motivated and workout, and smile a lot. Most smokers I know tend to become really cynical and almost "tired" of life to the point where they just listen to music all day and shit. Also, these people tend towards more "fringe" cultures that aren't necessarily bad, but it raises the question of weed correlating with socially abnormal behavior.

The worst part about it is the "cult"ure surrounding it. I'm probably going to get crucified here, but there is such a devoted following of people that will cover their ears and scream "WEED IS FROM THE EARTH! SUPER HEALTHY! BLAZE IT! IM NOT ADDICTED!! IT IS THE MEDICINE FROM MOTHER EARTH!" This is the same reason that the study from the Neuroscience institute last month was largely ignored by most people. Cognitive dissonance.

This is coming from a guy who does harder drugs (such as alcohol) but at least I know exactly how they damage my body.
 
12978955:DirtyDan said:
Quit around this time last year, and I can't recommend it more.

I have a feeling weed is subversively more dangerous than we know yet. I mean this mentally. Anecdotal at least, I've noticed that weed is the drug that changes people the most after they start using it. I don't know if "lazy" is the right word, but it makes you okay with doing nothing, I remember getting really "profound" thoughts from it that were just really basic ideas. The worst part is the anxiety and this kind of "hazy" depression.

I don't know if it's fair to say, but take a look at a lot of people who don't smoke weed: they are usually motivated and workout, and smile a lot. Most smokers I know tend to become really cynical and almost "tired" of life to the point where they just listen to music all day and shit. Also, these people tend towards more "fringe" cultures that aren't necessarily bad, but it raises the question of weed correlating with socially abnormal behavior.

The worst part about it is the "cult"ure surrounding it. I'm probably going to get crucified here, but there is such a devoted following of people that will cover their ears and scream "WEED IS FROM THE EARTH! SUPER HEALTHY! BLAZE IT! IM NOT ADDICTED!! IT IS THE MEDICINE FROM MOTHER EARTH!" This is the same reason that the study from the Neuroscience institute last month was largely ignored by most people. Cognitive dissonance.

This is coming from a guy who does harder drugs (such as alcohol) but at least I know exactly how they damage my body.

Hazy depression is a great way to describe it.. you're not going to get crucified for those opinions in this thread. We've been discussing the truths of quitting since the thread was bumped
 
Went to my buddy's house to watch the hockey game yesterday. I ended up taking a few hits. Made me feel real uncomfortable, and very very tired. I woke up this morning feeling very out of it. I have finally realized that I have been walking around in a daze for many years. I don't like feeling soo lethargic like that. Made me not want to smoke even more.

I am done for a while.
 
12978955:DirtyDan said:
Quit around this time last year, and I can't recommend it more.

I have a feeling weed is subversively more dangerous than we know yet. I mean this mentally. Anecdotal at least, I've noticed that weed is the drug that changes people the most after they start using it. I don't know if "lazy" is the right word, but it makes you okay with doing nothing, I remember getting really "profound" thoughts from it that were just really basic ideas. The worst part is the anxiety and this kind of "hazy" depression.

I don't know if it's fair to say, but take a look at a lot of people who don't smoke weed: they are usually motivated and workout, and smile a lot. Most smokers I know tend to become really cynical and almost "tired" of life to the point where they just listen to music all day and shit. Also, these people tend towards more "fringe" cultures that aren't necessarily bad, but it raises the question of weed correlating with socially abnormal behavior.

The worst part about it is the "cult"ure surrounding it. I'm probably going to get crucified here, but there is such a devoted following of people that will cover their ears and scream "WEED IS FROM THE EARTH! SUPER HEALTHY! BLAZE IT! IM NOT ADDICTED!! IT IS THE MEDICINE FROM MOTHER EARTH!" This is the same reason that the study from the Neuroscience institute last month was largely ignored by most people. Cognitive dissonance.

This is coming from a guy who does harder drugs (such as alcohol) but at least I know exactly how they damage my body.

well said.
 
12979810:speedin said:
Went to my buddy's house to watch the hockey game yesterday. I ended up taking a few hits. Made me feel real uncomfortable, and very very tired. I woke up this morning feeling very out of it. I have finally realized that I have been walking around in a daze for many years. I don't like feeling soo lethargic like that. Made me not want to smoke even more.

I am done for a while.

Today is another day, it's all good
 
12978955:DirtyDan said:
This is coming from a guy who does harder drugs (such as alcohol) but at least I know exactly how they damage my body.

You almost had me until this sentence. I get it, alcohol is way worse for you and is more addictive.. I still refuse to call alcohol a "hard drug" Not hating, just My $0.02
 
12980108:BrewskiJr said:
You almost had me until this sentence. I get it, alcohol is way worse for you and is more addictive.. I still refuse to call alcohol a "hard drug" Not hating, just My $0.02

I agree with his post a lot and I know where you're coming from. But, I think he was comparing it to weed, not saying it is a hard drug.
 
12980108:BrewskiJr said:
You almost had me until this sentence. I get it, alcohol is way worse for you and is more addictive.. I still refuse to call alcohol a "hard drug" Not hating, just My $0.02

To clarify on that; I consider anything that alters your mind a drug. (Caffeine, tylenol, nicotine, weed, alcohol). And by "harder" I just meant "more physically taxing" taking into account puking, stumbling, hangovers, etc. But I have dabbled in most "true hard drugs" as you would put it, and none seem to create the illusion of harmlessness like pot.
 
12980159:DirtyDan said:
To clarify on that; I consider anything that alters your mind a drug. (Caffeine, tylenol, nicotine, weed, alcohol). And by "harder" I just meant "more physically taxing" taking into account puking, stumbling, hangovers, etc. But I have dabbled in most "true hard drugs" as you would put it, and none seem to create the illusion of harmlessness like pot.

Okay thats a good clarification. Definitely agree with you. I get the worst damn hangovers haha
 
12973930:theabortionator said:
You need to invest in a good vape my friend

yea haha I had a decent one for a few weeks but then sold it. It's been a full week since I haven't smoked anything. I still feel like falling asleep and eating are harder. I can hold my self off due to lack of $ and time because of lacrosse, but I feel like if I was in a situation where it was readily available, there would no way I could say no.
 
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