Quit drinking?

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yungcigsmoker

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I've decided that I should. There is a lot of alcoholism in my family, and I tend to embarrass myself when I drink. I can't pace myself. No matter how hard I try. Last night I found myself in a familiar situation; wasted an hour after I told myself "1 beer". This seems to happen everytime I drink, and it's lead to a lot of tension in my family and in my life. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 
13593631:Prototype_1 said:
I didn't say I was an alcoholic. All I said is that I want to quit drinking, but whatever fuck you too
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straight up you asked for criticism. and not being able to control yourself, and pace yourself around alcohol is what alcohol is. sorry if you dont want to hear that and is damaging, but you might want to learn to stay away from it.
 
13593631:Prototype_1 said:
I didn't say I was an alcoholic. All I said is that I want to quit drinking, but whatever fuck you too
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Ok. Alcoholism is not the same thing as being an alcoholic. Alcoholism is the inability to stop drinking when you start, and the urge to do so often. Being an alcoholic is acting upon those urges to the extent that it causes some sort of damage.
 
it really is a fantastic thing that you can conceive that you need to stop, and that you might have a problem. like really thats the first thing you gotta do. i know people that cant even believe that they have a problem and they are fucked up beyond repair
 
Im young but its sounds like your life would improve if you dont touch it.
 
I'm not old enough to drink, but the people I work with always blow their paychecks on alcohol after their shifts. It's pretty lame and I don't really understand it.

There are no benefits of drinking alcohol... It just makes you fat and you feel like shit the next morning. Not my idea of fun.
 
Good for you OP, if you can't control yourself then ditch it.

Be prepared to get shit from your friends or people you used to drink with. That being said, your true friends will support your decision.
 
Hey man, I'm in a similar boat as you. Alcohol has become more of a negative in my life than a positive, yet I can't bring myself to give it up. Moderation doesn't work for me so it seems like the only real option is total abstinence.

The issue is that drinking is so instilled in our culture that quitting is almost impossible. Dating, socializing, work, they all have alcohol as a catalyst.

I've been going on and off the wagon for a couple years, so to speak. I don't have any good advice for you with it. It's a real challenge.

Feel free to PM me if you want to talk a bit more in depth.
 
It's a bad habit so you should drop it, especially if it's causing you to have issues with family/friends

I've been on the fence for a while now on whether or not I should cut it out altogether and I'm really starting to think I should

Never really feel compelled to drink
 
.....but it really is my go to activity when I'm bored

Also, the fact that I adamantly deny having an issue makes me think I really might
 
You could chalk this up to alcoholism, or a lack of self control.

I don't know how old you are OP, but when you're younger it's pretty natural to over indulge, especially with alcohol. Hell, I'm 21 now, been drinking for years but I still go through nights like yours every now and again. Whether it's because it's a special occasion, or the boys are just extra hype that night/im pissed at my girlfriend, it ends up happening and i'm blacked out by 11 pm, an hour after starting to drink. But I also have plenty of nights where i stop after a few beers and control it.

point is, if you cannot physically control the amount you consume, stop. But blacking out every now and again, while it's not healthy, isn't necessarily a sign of an addiction. and of course everyone does stupid shit when they're hammered every now and again, so don't read too deeply into these signs when the problem could just be solved by knowing when and having the ability to stop drinking. it's all mental.
 
13593728:Op. said:
What's so funny? The fact that I am less than 21 years old?
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Yes. I could just call you a pussy and leave, but I'll take another route.

In many states (22 to be exact) there are several ways for a person of any age to drink. They include drinking with a spouse, drinking alcohol provided by parents, etc.. For many states, as long as your on your property, it's legal.

Here's a list:

1. Alaska

2. Arkansas

3. Arizona

4. Colorado

5. Delaware

6. llinois

7. Louisiana

8. Maine

9. Michigan

10. Minnesota

11. Montana

12. Nebraska

13. New Jersey

14. North Dakota

15. Ohio

16. Oregon

17. South Dakota

18. Tennessee

19. Texas

20. Utah

21. Vermont

22. Washington

23. Wisconsin
 
13593733:Isis_rocks said:
Yes. I could just call you a pussy and leave, but I'll take another route.
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So not consuming alcohol makes one a pussy? As if drinking alcohol takes any skill whatsoever? I think it's a waste of money.
 
13593740:Op. said:
So not consuming alcohol makes one a pussy? As if drinking alcohol takes any skill whatsoever? I think it's a waste of money.
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From the wise words of Frank Sinatra, "I feel sorry for people that don't drink, because when they wake up in the morning, that is the best they are going to feel all day"

drinking does take skill btw.
 
13593740:Op. said:
So not consuming alcohol makes one a pussy? As if drinking alcohol takes any skill whatsoever? I think it's a waste of money.
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13593748:Op. said:
Not if they do something fun or take shrooms.
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First of all, I specifically DIDN'T call you a pussy to make a point. Secondly, where the fuck does your skewed-ass view of alcohol come from? Sure, it's not the healthiest thing, but anyone who's not a fucking retard knows when to stop. As long as it's not in excess, alcohol is a wonderful thing.

I would guess you're some product of D.A.R.E or whatever the fuck they teach you these days, but usually that just makes people want to do shit more. Anyways, you seem to think that taking hallucinogens is somehow less detrimental than alcohol which just proves how much of a dumbass you're making yourself sound.

I have more to say but I'm probably arguing with someone with the mental capacity of a brick wall, so I'll stop here.
 
topic:Prototype_1 said:
I've decided that I should. There is a lot of alcoholism in my family, and I tend to embarrass myself when I drink. I can't pace myself. No matter how hard I try. Last night I found myself in a familiar situation; wasted an hour after I told myself "1 beer". This seems to happen everytime I drink, and it's lead to a lot of tension in my family and in my life. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Don't drink alone or during the week and on off nights. Keep the fridge empty buy it to drink when you need it.

Don't pregame wait until you are in a social situation to have your first.

Stick to bud lights if you think you are going to be drinking a lot and getting crunk it'll keep you on an even keel.

Maybe even get some blow to straighten you out and help your tolerance.

Just make getting hammered a special event, take all precautions like no driving, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY don't worry about dumb shit you did the next day so long as you aren't on youtube screaming racial slurs at minorities or in jail lifes too short to worry and feel bad about shit you did when you were drunk.

Unless that is too much for you and you'd rather spend 3 hours a week crying about your problems to some fucking losers in a meeting and having to sit through them whining about theirs.
 
13593636:Isis_rocks said:
Ok. Alcoholism is not the same thing as being an alcoholic. Alcoholism is the inability to stop drinking when you start, and the urge to do so often. Being an alcoholic is acting upon those urges to the extent that it causes some sort of damage.
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Stop putting specific definitions on something that effects everyone differently. I know its hard since you are still in high school and taught to not think for yourself and regurgitate what your teachers and school tell you but most people go through life consuming alcohol in social situations and asking for an apple juice is just weird.

The worst thing to do with someone who drinks too much is to install an all or nothing mentality and trick the person into believing that they can't cut back and drink a little less and once they stop drinking convince them their life will unravel if they touch another drop (because then when they do drink they do so expecting bad things to happen and it becomes a release and leads to self harming behavior and thinking and guilt when they shouldn't be guilty at all.)

OP don't drink too much though try and take most days off people who can't go a day without getting drunk are weird and gross.
 
13593765:Isis_rocks said:
First of all, I specifically DIDN'T call you a pussy to make a point. Secondly, where the fuck does your skewed-ass view of alcohol come from? Sure, it's not the healthiest thing, but anyone who's not a fucking retard knows when to stop. As long as it's not in excess, alcohol is a wonderful thing.

I would guess you're some product of D.A.R.E or whatever the fuck they teach you these days, but usually that just makes people want to do shit more. Anyways, you seem to think that taking hallucinogens is somehow less detrimental than alcohol which just proves how much of a dumbass you're making yourself sound.

I have more to say but I'm probably arguing with someone with the mental capacity of a brick wall, so I'll stop here.
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Good post....

I wish I had read this far down before I quoted ya theres some knowledge up in this ^
 
13593811:PeppermillReno said:
Maybe even get some blow to straighten you out and help your tolerance.
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OP suggests he wants to quit drinking

"nah dude fuck that just start doing blow, it'll be way better"

what the fuck lol

I can just see OP now drinking with his family and friends, casually taking bumps very half hour, parents love that shit
 
13593821:plyswthsqrrls said:
OP suggests he wants to quit drinking

"nah dude fuck that just start doing blow, it'll be way better"

what the fuck lol

I can just see OP now drinking with his family and friends, casually taking bumps very half hour, parents love that shit
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Blow is huge with older middle aged people. Just because they don't want to encourage their kids to do it doesn't mean they'd turn down a line if offered one.

I didn't realize until I was part of a bachelorette party a couple weeks ago that people in their 40s and 50s loved that shit when they drank. Hadn't thought about it until recently when I realized just about everyone I know and am friends with who isn't friends with my parents would definitely say yes if I offered them a line.

(Remember powdered coke isn't really addictive only crack is no functioning adult in their 40s will develop a habit unlike opiates.)

I don't really like coke either but it definitely helps you keep your shit together and not drink too much and stay social when you are on a bender that lasts a long time.
 
13593825:PeppermillReno said:
Blow is huge with older middle aged people. Just because they don't want to encourage their kids to do it doesn't mean they'd turn down a line if offered one.

I didn't realize until I was part of a bachelorette party a couple weeks ago that people in their 40s and 50s loved that shit when they drank. Hadn't thought about it until recently when I realized just about everyone I know and am friends with who isn't friends with my parents would definitely say yes if I offered them a line.

(Remember powdered coke isn't really addictive only crack is no functioning adult in their 40s will develop a habit unlike opiates.)

I don't really like coke either but it definitely helps you keep your shit together and not drink too much and stay social when you are on a bender that lasts a long time.
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you're basing an assumption about an entire generation of people off of one random encounter you had up in whistler, when some old lady was finally getting hitched and decided to buy all of her friends a shit ton of blow?

Also I'm sure you're dealer is making sure to sell you the non-addictive shit, repeat customers appreciate that kind of honesty and straightforwardness

I don't know dude, how about if you have a problem with drinking too much, you just stop drinking? Picking up another shitty habit to balance out your original shitty habit sounds like one of the top-10 worst ideas I've seen on this site, and that is saying something.

All of your posts read to me like someone who's just now discovering alcohol and drugs and can't wait to tell anyone who will listen about his awesome experiences with them. Could be wrong in my assumption, but some of the suggestions you make are pretty fucked
 
13593821:plyswthsqrrls said:
Blow is huge with older middle aged people. Just because they don't want to encourage their kids to do it doesn't mean they'd turn down a line if offered one.
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I don't really like coke either but it definitely helps you keep your shit together and not drink too much and stay social when you are on a bender that lasts a long time.[/quote]

I dont like uppers. BUT blow will allow me to drink aggressivly, basically for a day straight as long as i can have a bump or two every so often. When you start to feel too drunk, grab a key bump and your back in the game.

Older folks like blow more than weed in social situations for the same reason, and also because it is a "richer", higher class drug that makes you smarter. weed dumbs you down. Blow speeds up your mind. I know a lot of 40-60 year olds(a few with a C and an O in their job titles) that are much more willing to share a few lines than a few tokes. Everyone likes drugs... theyre fun!

As for OP- im sorry to hear youve been having problems with alcohol. Not being able to socialize normally with alcohol is a big drawback later in adult life. It can be overcome with other postive traits you may posses, but not being able to have a drink on a first date, with a boss, at a professional function, at family functions and vacations etc is a social no-no.
 
13593765:Isis_rocks said:
I have more to say but I'm probably arguing with someone with the mental capacity of a brick wall, so I'll stop here.
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Nope, I just like bothering people. It seems to have worked.
 
13593765:Isis_rocks said:
I would guess you're some product of D.A.R.E or whatever the fuck they teach you these days, but usually that just makes people want to do shit more. Anyways, you seem to think that taking hallucinogens is somehow less detrimental than alcohol which just proves how much of a dumbass you're making yourself sound.
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You do realize that alcohol is considered one the most damaging drugs in the world right? I drink - a lot - but that doesn't mean I'm blind to reality and truths. psychedelics are 99% less detrimental than alcohol. I'm not even sure how you could begin to argue otherwise.

One of the worst things going on in North American society is the lack of acceptance for non drinkers. Someone who is at a party and NOT drinking is looked at in a very odd way. Especially when you consider how negative people are to cigarettes and those that smoke them. Why so much negativity to smokers, yet almost the complete opposite for drinking?
 
13593636:Isis_rocks said:
Ok. Alcoholism is not the same thing as being an alcoholic. Alcoholism is the inability to stop drinking when you start, and the urge to do so often. Being an alcoholic is acting upon those urges to the extent that it causes some sort of damage.
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Can you stop floating around this forum as a fucking know it all? You are in fucking in high school and you troll on the non-ski forum thinking your doctor Phil. Between your username and the shit that spews out from your keyboard is embarrassing. So please stfu
 
13593944:McNoche said:
Can you stop floating around this forum as a fucking know it all? You are in fucking in high school and you troll on the non-ski forum thinking your doctor Phil. Between your username and the shit that spews out from your keyboard is embarrassing. So please stfu
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I guess it's wrong to have opinions on things and/or ideas if you're under the age of 21? What the fuck does age have to do with anything in the first place?

You sound idiotic of you think that age corresponds with intelligence in any way. Sure, most people who are older do have more life experience to comment on, but that's not always the case.

So shut the fuck up and contribute yourself instead of hating on other people's opinions, especially when they aren't in the wrong. At least argue your points with evidence if you choose to do so.
 
13593943:Drail said:
You do realize that alcohol is considered one the most damaging drugs in the world right? I drink - a lot - but that doesn't mean I'm blind to reality and truths. psychedelics are 99% less detrimental than alcohol. I'm not even sure how you could begin to argue otherwise.

One of the worst things going on in North American society is the lack of acceptance for non drinkers. Someone who is at a party and NOT drinking is looked at in a very odd way. Especially when you consider how negative people are to cigarettes and those that smoke them. Why so much negativity to smokers, yet almost the complete opposite for drinking?
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It's a group mentality thing- when I'm getting drunk, I want others around me drunk so we are all in the same mindset. A non drinker usually has "a problem" or "a sickness" which is intrinsically off putting as a weakness.

Smokers literally stink, and their habit stinks. Drinkers, unless you're right in their face trying to smell their breathe don't stink

Not to mention a half a pack a day is gonna be more detrimental to your health than half a six pack a day will be. Lastly, second hand smoke.
 
I've watched alcohol destroy successful people. You can certainly excel in life and get hammered regularly at the same time but you'll end up being a boring grumpy asshole when you are sober because you rely on alcohol to let loose and have fun. You'll also start to forget about people because they don't party and eventually you'll create a complex that tells you that you are better than people who dont party and drink. But really you are just a boring grumpy asshole who is grumpy because 1/3 of your paycheck was lost in a span of 5 hours that you can hardly remember.

I have people talk shit becaue I drop a $100 on a 1/2 oz that will last me close to 3 weeks and then I can watch those same people blow $200 on taxis and booze in one night of partying. It makes no fucking sense.
 
13593728:Op. said:
What's so funny? The fact that I am less than 21 years old?
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The thing that's funny is you accociate an age with the ability or right to consume alcohol.

Basically everyone I knew in high school tried alcohol by the time they were 14 and were drinking to get drunk by 17 on a regular basis. I know alot of other people that had a similar experience as this from many different regions of the country, so its not like I have some specific experience.

I did meet a good amount of people my first year of college that didn't really drink in high school but being under age at 18 didn't stop them from trying and then most of them continuing to drink to get drunk until they were 'legal' to drink.

My point is, sure some people don't drink til they're 21 but were laughing at the comment you made cause its very rare for anyone to not drink just because it's illegal and in my mind makes you an outlier amoung people I've met and people I know.

Drinking a waste of money? Sure but drinking is a social activity, your coworkers that go to the bar after their shift are blowing off steam and having fun socializing. Just because you go to the bar doesn't mean you spend all of your money there. Some people do that but it's easy to moderate your spending too if you just try. It's pretty unfair for you to say that drinking is a waste of money and scoff at people who drink when you generize based on a couple people you know and then back that up with your zero experience opinion. Be that entitled young kid who takes mushrooms if you want but no one is gonna think you're cool because of it, you'll be 25 at a bar with all your friends and look back on when you were this age and realize how silly you were.

As for OP, if you think you should stop drinking then that's probably the right idea. Some people can drink 2 beers and call it a day, some can't. Don't force yourself into a bad situation to fit in.
 
Sounds like someone in my family who had to deal with something similar. It's a form of being allergic to alcohol.

I'm sure some people might not agree with it, but it makes sense.

http://www.thecleanslate.org/myths/addiction-as-an-allergy-loss-of-control/

I'm not saying you're an alcoholic. Most people don't know they have a problem and that's the biggest problem. You're heading in the right direction OP just stay the course :) . If you don't want to drink you can always just tell people you're allergic and I'm sure people will understand. My Fiancee is actually allergic to alcohol too. She get's pretty much all the symptoms of being allergic which is here: Link.

Hope everything works out for the best man.
 
13593944:McNoche said:
Can you stop floating around this forum as a fucking know it all? You are in fucking in high school and you troll on the non-ski forum thinking your doctor Phil. Between your username and the shit that spews out from your keyboard is embarrassing. So please stfu
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yeah and he stole skoalsteeze's icon
 
13593951:Isis_rocks said:
I guess it's wrong to have opinions on things and/or ideas if you're under the age of 21? What the fuck does age have to do with anything in the first place?

You sound idiotic of you think that age corresponds with intelligence in any way. Sure, most people who are older do have more life experience to comment on, but that's not always the case.

So shut the fuck up and contribute yourself instead of hating on other people's opinions, especially when they aren't in the wrong. At least argue your points with evidence if you choose to do so.
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So you use two separate paragraphs explaining how age is just number. You are right, one paragraph just isn't enough.

Then your third paragraph explains how your opinion is right? Mmm ok, that makes me super excited to jump into a topic of conversation with you. That's sarcasm by the way dipshit
 
13593968:PCPRINCIPAL said:
I've watched alcohol destroy successful people. You can certainly excel in life and get hammered regularly at the same time but you'll end up being a boring grumpy asshole when you are sober because you rely on alcohol to let loose and have fun. You'll also start to forget about people because they don't party and eventually you'll create a complex that tells you that you are better than people who dont party and drink. But really you are just a boring grumpy asshole who is grumpy because 1/3 of your paycheck was lost in a span of 5 hours that you can hardly remember.

I have people talk shit becaue I drop a $100 on a 1/2 oz that will last me close to 3 weeks and then I can watch those same people blow $200 on taxis and booze in one night of partying. It makes no fucking sense.
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sooooo you feel the need to talk shit about them? lol.

Different strokes for different folks my man. Some folks like to party and do the club scene, you like a mellower scene. Sounds like those folks and you dont get along well, so why worry about them?

Ive seen marijuana destroy some very smart, succesful people. Does that make it inherently worse than alcohol? no. It means it's a substance that has the ability to negativley affect people, but the vast majority deal with it just fine.

You wanna talk about a substance that people are addicted to, and are grumpy assholes without? Coffee. Lol.
 
13593951:Isis_rocks said:
I guess it's wrong to have opinions on things and/or ideas if you're under the age of 21? What the fuck does age have to do with anything in the first place?

You sound idiotic of you think that age corresponds with intelligence in any way. Sure, most people who are older do have more life experience to comment on, but that's not always the case.

So shut the fuck up and contribute yourself instead of hating on other people's opinions, especially when they aren't in the wrong. At least argue your points with evidence if you choose to do so.
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I think you should leave NS, and never come back.
 
I have the exact same problem, it took me years to figure out my own tolerance and I still over do it from time to time. Couple things that help me,

1. Dont count how many beers you've had, judge how much you want to drink by how you feel at the time. Sounds weird but a lot of times i would find myself saying "I wanna drink 12 beers tonight" and I would do it way too fast.

2. Dont bring enough for you to get that fucked up, 6 pack and tall can is what I always try come equipped with, if its not quite enough you can usually get a beer or two from one of your buddies.
 
13593997:McNoche said:
So you use two separate paragraphs explaining how age is just number. You are right, one paragraph just isn't enough.

Then your third paragraph explains how your opinion is right? Mmm ok, that makes me super excited to jump into a topic of conversation with you. That's sarcasm by the way dipshit
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Is this english class? Once again, saying that I'm wrong without any evidence otherwise doesn't help your case.

13594008:Jon_Taffer said:
I think you should leave NS, and never come back.
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???
 
13594003:californiagrown said:
sooooo you feel the need to talk shit about them? lol.

Different strokes for different folks my man. Some folks like to party and do the club scene, you like a mellower scene. Sounds like those folks and you dont get along well, so why worry about them?

Ive seen marijuana destroy some very smart, succesful people. Does that make it inherently worse than alcohol? no. It means it's a substance that has the ability to negativley affect people, but the vast majority deal with it just fine.

You wanna talk about a substance that people are addicted to, and are grumpy assholes without? Coffee. Lol.
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Did I hurt your feelings?
 
13594028:Isis_rocks said:
Is this english class? Once again, saying that I'm wrong without any evidence otherwise doesn't help your case.

???
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For the final fucking time I am not trying to prove a case with you. I am simply saying stop being a dipshit.

Let me be the second person to tell you in this thread, take a break from NS
 
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