But see, in my opinion you can't compare the way two of them in that way. From the Beginning the GT series has not been a game that has a new version come out every year or two. It has always taken them 3 or 4 years in between titles. As for Forza, it has always been a title that has had a new version come out every other year. So, it's just how they do things. I agree, the wait for GT5 was definitely not worth it. But, at the end of the day, I still for some reason find myself playing GT5 over Forza, despite liking them equally as much.