Please recommend tourable bindings for Faction Agent 3.0 @ 6' 2" 195lb

kyxap

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Hi all!

I've ordered Faction Agent 3.0 188cm to try ski touring as soon as I get them but realized that i'm not 100% sure what bindings to get.

I have powder ski 119mm with alpine bindings and park\groomer ski but I have never try tech\hybrid binging.

My goal is to be able to ski inbounds (maybe 20-30% or maybe just replace my old park ski) and be able to climb up to 5000ft vert in PNW.

Right now g3 ion 12 on "sale" for 463.16 and I thinking about them. But also I found in some reviews that for bigger person salomon shift will work better. And again a lot of folks complaining about quality\warranty of g3.

I don't plan to do any big cliffs but possibility of doing 5-10ft drops and 180/360 is nice to have.

Any advice or link to review/video will be appreciated!
 
Get kingpins.

I’m 6’2 and they are the only binding I use in the BC. They impress the hell out of me and the *chunk* sound of the alpine heel is reassuring at the top of a line. They stay on when I want em to and pop off when I want em to.

Just make sure you get newer ones (the copper lookin’ ones or newer.) My buddy has the old gold ones and they ice over after a dozen steps off the skin track. He has to carry a lighter to melt the snow under his springs (not for anything else forsure.)
 
14286245:Hometownerz said:
Get kingpins.

I’m 6’2 and they are the only binding I use in the BC. They impress the hell out of me and the *chunk* sound of the alpine heel is reassuring at the top of a line. They stay on when I want em to and pop off when I want em to.

Just make sure you get newer ones (the copper lookin’ ones or newer.) My buddy has the old gold ones and they ice over after a dozen steps off the skin track. He has to carry a lighter to melt the snow under his springs (not for anything else forsure.)

thank for comment! yeah they are good but super heavy :(

I was looking into nikolai schirmer videos and in last one its visible that he still using g3 ion with very aggressive style of skiing.

Looks like I will get them a try and if not will try kingpins or cast or I dont know
 
If you are going to be skiing inbounds that much I would highly recommend not getting ion or kingpins or any tech binding. Lots of people do it but those bindings aren’t as safe as an alpine binding in terms of release, the physically do not have a horizontal toe release which was incorporated into alpine bindings years and years ago to cut down on the number of spiral tib/fib fractures, a tech toe has nothing to help with this kind of injury and while skiing inbounds at higher speeds this injury becomes more likely. Additionally no tech toe offer close to the same elastic travel as even the worst alpine binding, so on hardpack at high speeds they basically chatter off your feet.

Seriously, if this ski if going to be used inbounds a decent amount get one of the 50/50 bindings like cast, shift, duke PT, they all release like an alpine binding and can all also be used to tour just fine with.
 
Actually my legs is not very weak (I had to squat 200lb+ 3x8) but big muscles will quickly

eat all oxygen/carbs from the body on uphill. I’d say endurance here is more important than just muscle mass. And endurance will be impacted by additional weight of bindings. Based on my hiking experience in PNW.

14286420:Hometownerz said:
Schirmer is a god and kingpins aren’t very heavy,

do some squats :)
 
you mean 10-20% it’s much enough for shift like bindings? I agree with you that safety first for sure! I actually trust alpine binging but not for 100%. I mean shit happens and better be careful than sorry. This means that with tech bindings I will be super careful and maybe too much which may impact fun and progression in skiing powder. Good point

14286488:TheWeaz said:
If you are going to be skiing inbounds that much I would highly recommend not getting ion or kingpins or any tech binding. Lots of people do it but those bindings aren’t as safe as an alpine binding in terms of release, the physically do not have a horizontal toe release which was incorporated into alpine bindings years and years ago to cut down on the number of spiral tib/fib fractures, a tech toe has nothing to help with this kind of injury and while skiing inbounds at higher speeds this injury becomes more likely. Additionally no tech toe offer close to the same elastic travel as even the worst alpine binding, so on hardpack at high speeds they basically chatter off your feet.

Seriously, if this ski if going to be used inbounds a decent amount get one of the 50/50 bindings like cast, shift, duke PT, they all release like an alpine binding and can all also be used to tour just fine with.
 
topic:kyxap said:
Hi all!

I've ordered Faction Agent 3.0 188cm to try ski touring as soon as I get them but realized that i'm not 100% sure what bindings to get.

I have powder ski 119mm with alpine bindings and park\groomer ski but I have never try tech\hybrid binging.

My goal is to be able to ski inbounds (maybe 20-30% or maybe just replace my old park ski) and be able to climb up to 5000ft vert in PNW.

Right now g3 ion 12 on "sale" for 463.16 and I thinking about them. But also I found in some reviews that for bigger person salomon shift will work better. And again a lot of folks complaining about quality\warranty of g3.

I don't plan to do any big cliffs but possibility of doing 5-10ft drops and 180/360 is nice to have.

Any advice or link to review/video will be appreciated!

You should sell your factions and get vashnu wet waters or sego big horns
 
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