PLEASE READ IMPORTANT: RCR RESORTS = TERMINATING PARK PROGRAM

fuck this is complete bullshit...if i want to hit rails im not going to pay $70 for a ticket ill go get snow from the skating rink and it will cost me only $3 for gas
 
This is so dumb. Yeah my resort is thinking about not building a park this year because it is to dangerous. It is so ridiculous how just because a few idiot get hurt means that all of us have to suffer.
 
He cant be in pain if he is paralyzed from the neck down, well i guess his eyes could be itchy and it sucks that he cant do shit about it.
 
that may be true. but here in the east we have nothing but those jumps, and they are now removed...They will lose a lost of customers, People went to those mountains to hit jumps. Now what will happen, a lot of people will just get refund from their season pass because theyll prefer to go hit some urban instead of the rails they will give us in the park. They will lose a lot of customers in the east, and isnt that a loss of of cash?? building jumps may cost a lot, but now to replace them they are designing some**new kind of rails omgomg**. Don't you think that will not cost a lot??

Less customers = less money for park = shitty park

They just ruined the winter of thousands of kids. Plus, that is so stupid, Do you think that a mountain, a resort without jumps will be even considered for a couple of guys doing a trip to quebec, looking for some mountain??no. I think they just shot themselves in the foot, but hit us all at the same time. They will lose some of their best customers here in quebec, as well as a good bunch of tourist.

Good job RCR

 
BOYCOTT RCR would be my first choice, but realistically, skiing is just to fun to stop altogether. I say we start a mass uprising. Civil disobedience with CRAZY jump building, and overall disrespect for RCR as a buisness. Think about the anarchy. No police, and a CULTURE of angry youth with a cause. This season will be rather epic in my opinion. Every chance3 you get on the chair, tell everyone how bad RCR% is. Tell peop-le on the cjhairlift, tell people in the lift lines, tell peop-le in lines to get tickets. COmplain evberyday at the offices, dont let ski patrol see your pass, dont let them touch you or keep you where they want if you get stopped. I may sound young and naive, but friends, they just took away MY LIFE. Jumping is the only thing i was ever really good at. Everythi9ng else i am average, but I was known for being a solid jumper. Now that they take this away, well, Im fucki9ng angry. FUCK RCR, R.ecycled C.unt R.ags.
 
i emailed the guy and signed the petition, i am really sad that they think this is the right direction to go in skiing
 
Heres an email I wrote real quick.

Oh and albatross, rodenski5 and papasteeze...I mentioned some of your ideas/beliefs in the email, hope its alright.

This is just absurd. In no way should one mans screw up for going off

of a jump or doing anything that he/she knows cannot handle, should

take away the privilege or thousands of the skiing and snowboarding

population. If you say you are "undertaking an industry-leading

initiative" then your industry-leading initiative is almost a decade

behind. Freesking or freestyle snowboarding is a HUGE part of the

snowsports industry. Freeskiing is growing every year and is becoming a

very large part of the skiing population. This decision is like saying,

since someone got hurt on an off-piste trail that you can only ski on

groomer trails now. It is the skiers responsibility to know they're

level of skill and take responsibility for their own actions. It makes

me angry that citizens on this continent cannot be responsible enough,

so they get hurt and file a lawsuit like every ignorant citizen in this

country. Enforce a park pass to keep people that aren't familiar with

the park out of it or come up with some sort of system. It says your

still going to invest in rails and purchase more rails. Don't rails

have a jump in front of them? Yes. Now you're saying that you're going

to take out man-made jumps but keep man-made jumps that lead to a 20

foot steel bar? I don't understand this logic. Taking away the terrain

parks is a poor financial decision. I bet you Whistler/Blackcomb is

giving each other high fives right now, hearing this news. Since theres

no park at any of the RCR resorts there is only big mountain. If I want

to ski big mountain terrain, I'll go to Kicking Horse.

Thanks for your time.

-spencer
 
im pretty sure that guy changed his email address because i sent him an email and it like came back to me and it said that address is no longer valid or some shit like that lol, this guy is shameless
 
If that really came after the deadline to refund your pass, and he really did change his e-mail, then I'm actually mad about this. I mean, how can the sport you've grown to dearly love regress so fast for so many kids? What are they supposed to do, when thats all the mountain truly offers for them? Fuck..
 

recycled cunt rags are being so outrageously gay by annoucign this after the pass refund date. jesus christ. thats seems almost illegal, fraud if you will.
 


Recently, On behalf of Resorts of the Canadian Rockies, Matt Mosteller publicly announced the discontinuation of the construction and maintenance of Terrain Park jumps in all RCR resorts this approaching season. This came with uproarious discontent from the park riding youth who often attend these resorts solely to session the obstacles of the terrain park. I pride myself in being a member of this very vibrant and rising culture, and I felt the effects of this painful decision, as much if not more than anyone. The decision made to stop the operation of terrain parks, and thus halting the progression of these children and adults alike, is absolute ludicrous

I recently spoke with the general manager of operations over the phone, and he told us that the decision was made strictly in the name of safety. “We feel a strong moral obligation to not compromise the safety of our guests.” This, to me, was very strange. For as long as I can remember, as we received our seasons passes, we signed a waiver stating that RCR and all of its affiliates were not responsible for any injury caused by man made or natural obstacles. Last time I checked, a man-made gap jump is in fact a man made obstacle. Of course, the terrain park is directly under the chair receiving constant supervision from onlookers with a bird’s eye view. The park is also fenced off completely with the exception of a small entrance. Even I, as a very experienced skier, sometimes find it difficult to enter the park, and I highly doubt that an inexperienced skier could accidentally enter the park against their will. The terrain park is also absolutely ridded with warning signs and indicators. Not a jump is left without a sign posted, indicating the size and skill level required to safely hit the jump. At the entrance of the park, a full list of park etiquette and safety is placed in a position where it is impossible to bypass and not see. Finally, each jump is meticulously groomed, maintained and inspected many times a day, well before any public usage is permitted. It seems RCR has taken every precaution possible to “not compromise the safety of our guests,” and frankly, If a very inexperienced skier lacks the mental capacity, and physical condition to enter the park and hit any feature without the necessary skill set or equipment, I feel that the resort should not feel a responsibility to protect them further.

The ambiguity lies in that now that this culture of young and rebellious skiers are being deprived of one of their most essential assets, they will almost defiantly find other ways to get airborne. The most popular method of attaining this excitement is to construct makeshift jumps on their own in undesignated, remote areas of the ski hill. These jumps lack engineering and effective use of safety precautions, but rather simply thrown together by eager daredevils feeling the withdrawal from the terrain park they once knew. To me at least, these unmarked, poorly maintained and unexpected obstacles pose a much greater threat to oblivious “valued guests” than an extremely controlled area such as a terrain park. Black diamond runs on the back are not maintained or inspected anywhere near the amount that the park is, and I believe that an inexperienced rider is increasingly more likely to become injured on a black diamond run with unavoidable natural hazards of all kinds, than inside the safety and control of the terrain park. Personally, I would rather get injured on a jump directly under the main chairlift, than a remote, mal-nourished, black diamond run that gets patrolled perhaps once an hour. But, that’s just me. The youth of today will find a way to remain airborne no matter how many ski patrollers are on duty, or how many shovels are confiscated.

Instead of this unwarranted, unsupervised booter building fiesta that will occur, why not look for methods of reducing the danger of large terrain park jumps, as well as the legal danger they may introduce. I propose the instatement of a park pass. This relatively simple solution will counteract the danger of inexperienced skiers (who are MORE dangerous than the obstacles themselves) by restricting their access to the features within the park. When the pass is distributed, a mandatory park specific waiver must be signed, stating that RCR is not responsible for injury or damaged equipment sustained while using features of the terrain park. Finally pass holders would go through a day long training session instructing park safety, etiquette and techniques in order to maintain a safe, positive environment. This would virtually eliminate the risk of under experienced skiers and boarders entering the park without the skills fit to do so. This way, all risk is self-assumed, and your “moral obligation” will rest at ease.

Of all the things that bother me about this decision, it is the fact that the terrain park is a culture. It is a mosaic of different skills, ages, genders, and sports. The park itself is a small community thriving on the features it holds. With the withdrawal of jumps, dreams were literally crushed. Off the top of my angry little head, I can think of at least 4 occupants of Kimberley Alpine Resort who had a chance to go somewhere with terrain park skiing. Now those aspirations have been harshly rejected with a simple business move. It’s like taking the rink away from the hockey player, it’s like taking away books away from a scholar, and it’s like taking a bone from a dog. This alone is enough to reverse the decision you have made, because lets face it, if safety of your guests is you main concern, I feel that the removal of monitored and maintained jumps is not the answer. Financially, I know that jumps and insurance costs are unimaginable amounts, but if RCR could find it in them to sacrifice money for every park riders’ dreams, happiness, and safety, well it would be greatly appreciated.

Rory Greggain

 
i sent an email to them and it replied with this:

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From: peterg_12@hotmail.com

To: mmostell@skircr.com

Subject: FW: RCR Park eliminating man-made park jumps

Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:11:58 -0800

help?

 
But i sighned the petition and agree this is total BS. i hope nS blows this out of the water. We should advertise it on the front page
 
he didn't shut his e-mail.. you had the wrong one
MMosteller@skircr.com
he also receives e-mails to media@skircr.com
and info@skircr.com is their main mailbox

this is totally fucked!

Their is 2 days of protest being organized.. be sure to support them
1st Protest November 24th at 12 noon On the saturday of the Mens Downhill in Louise we can attract huge worldwide media attention.Get out your pickets and stick them in front of the cameras as much as you can... sure to attract attention.2nd Protest AT ALL RCR RESORTS - Monday December 17th from 2-4PM DO NOT RIDE THE LIFTS. Hang out in the base area with your pickets and protest away!I will be making a call to all my media friends in Fernie to get coverage here... we need other people to take the initiative in their city to make this more effective.. so step up!This probably will have no effect whatsoever on anything that RCR does.. but it will make them look bad.. hopefully worldwide. We cant let them get off scott free with their further mismanagement of the skiing industry of the canadian rockies.
 
lets hit them from all angles... Telus is the major sponsor of their parks.. and They should also hear our concerns

I just sent this:

Hi, I am writing to you about the TELUS Parks that you sponsor at Resorts of the Canadian Rockies, and their recent decision to remove all the jumps from them. This decision to remove jumps from the controlled, supervised and maintained environment is a very large step backward in the safety for everyone that skis a their resorts. By removing the jumps skiers and boarders will not simply stop hitting jumps, they will build jumps all across the mountain in uncontrolled areas, they will become unmaintained, will be unsupervised and will pose a risk to everyone on the mountain. I would urge you as a major sponsor to either remove your sponsorship from this company, or urge them to reconsider this irresponsible decision that they have made.
http://about.telus.com/cgi-bin/tcontactus.cgi
 
Even though this doesn't really impact me (unless it becomes an increasing trend, which is very possible), i sent a nice long email, just incase.
 
i understand your point, but the bigger picture is that terrain parks are a good investment to resorts, because over the long term, these resorts have attracted life long customers who will continue to use their resort long after their days of using the terrain parks.

Plus I don't know about you, but I can see the growth of our sport every year I go to my mountain. I remember when there were like 10 kids in the park at Tremblant, and nowadays everyone and their mother is getting into it.

 
just seems to me that these resorts are too lazy to put in the extra time to design their jumps ahead of time, have everything documented in paper, and lay the park out in such a way that they wont have a collossal fuck up like snoqualmie. Squal just got caught with their pants down....and it seems these other resorts would rather just can jumps all together rather than worry about building them right in the first place.

Really seems like its more so the resorts protecting the guests from themselves.....haha.
 
rcr resort in qc had park pass for their XL terrain parks last year. and the jumps were barely over 35 feet.

the funniest thing is how mont st-anne freestyle skiing program for both their mogul skiers and the guyz paying to go to ski/school program will be able to pull it out without loosing a whole bunch of money.

someone with a law degree should try finding a way for the feeskiers to get their pass refunded

 
signed. Not cool. I know fetures are not safe for all but an alterative method needs to be found so jumps can be used by those that will use them safely
 
e-mail this guy too - john.mikkelsen@telus.com

he was previously quoted as below in a rcr press release from 2006

“TELUS is delighted with our continued relationship with Resorts of the Canadian Rockies. We are committed to supporting skiing and riding through our partnerships with both Alpine Canada Alpin and the Canadian Snowboard Federation,” said John Mikkelsen, Assistant Vice President, Corporate Partnerships with TELUS. “Not only will the TELUS Terrain Park become a great training ground for future Olympians, it has the design and flexibility to cater to all levels of riders and skiers”.
 
Count me in for this petition. That sucks, by denying skiers and snowboarders the ability to ski park they will try and find other outlets for their riding to replace park skiing. It will probably lead to people biting off more than they can chew throughout the rest of the resort. Bad move by the Canadian big-wigs running this shit.
 
Thats what gets me. It makes me angry becasue in reality, this is a good buisness move. To bad it is at the expense of mine and thousands of other riders happiness. I feel so bloody helpless its rediculous.
 
holy shit someone has a brain!

a lot of you said that RCR will lose a lot of money because of this move because park skiers are a huge part of the market. to that i say WAKE THE FUCK UP!! this generation of skiers has no money. your parents do! for the most part there is no such thing as loyalty anymore. look at canadian ski shops; the same shops you've shopped in all your lives are doing everything they can to keep you from going into the US to buy your gear because of the high dollar. do you care? probably not.

freeskiers are not as big of a market as most of you think. like it or not, racers bring more revenue to a resort than freeskiers. the only reason the resorts build big parks is because of photographers shooting big name athletes with the possibility of getting a banner in one of the shots.

oh yeah, go ahead and protest at the downhill at lake louise. you'll be quickly escorted off the premises.

 
In order to make a change the only way out is to call our ski resort and tell them that we expect to have our money back if there are no jumps this year cause they were advertising the upcomming season by saying that there would be more and bigger jumps this year. And this was 3 days ago on msa' website.

PLease everybody CALL
 
For everyone that doesnt understand french, this pretty says they are getting rid of two spines and replacing them with other things, but the parks will still be there.
 
I am writing to say that I think that there is another solution to

completely removing the jump features in your terrain parks. This

solution is a parks pass system. The only people who can go into the

terrain parks with the system are people who have taken a class and

signed a waiver saying that they acknowledge that there are inherent

risks to terrain parks and they realize there are ways to minimize the

risks and they take all responsibility of the risks involved. By

putting a fence at the top of the terrain parks and always having a

park guard on duty to make sure only people with passes could go in the

terrain parks, the resorts could limit usage of the parks, to those who

will take responsibility for their actions.

In sum, park passes require people to focus on what they are

getting

themselves into. I think that most of the

injuries are from inexperinced and infrequent snow sliders, the people

who are out of shape, prone to injury, and don't know how to avoid a

crash. It thins out the weekend warrior accidents, people, who don't

know what they are getting into and are most prone to injury. I know

that you have spent a lot of time thinking about this, but I feel like

closing down parks completely will hurt your resorts more than it will

help. It completely removes you from a whole section and growing part

of the skiing world.

Thanks for your time,

Mike Records
 
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