Pivot bindings are a myth

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torchere

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I’ve come to the conclusion that “Look” “Pivot” “15’s” are just another scheme by Big Snowboard to tank the ski industry. They’re out to get us and are coming for Alta.

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Thought I blew my bindings up 2 days before a week at snowbird, but I had no clue that the c shaped part on the toe was supposed to rotate 90° vertically
 
14517380:Vish-shoe said:
I’m just saying…

I don’t ever see exploded snowboard bindings
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I guess none of your friends board super hard? Those things break all the time if you really crash hard at speed.

The pivot baseplates obviously have QA issues there are like ten pictures of them snapped in the exact same spot. Might just be a bad batch or they switched production or suppliers.
 
14517380:Vish-shoe said:
I’m just saying…

I don’t ever see exploded snowboard bindings
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Every single day people come in with missing hardware, broken straps and cracked highbacks.
 
14517816:.nasty said:
Let me guess, you step out of your bindings using your skis...
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It's not the arms that are snapping or bending, it's the baseplate which should be the sturdiest bit of the whole setup.

They're probably just cut costs on materials or heat treating and this is the result. 99% of people won't break them and they can replace a few parts and still make a few extra pennies on each set. Accounting will no doubt be pleased.
 
14517900:Non_State_Actor said:
It's not the arms that are snapping or bending, it's the baseplate which should be the sturdiest bit of the whole setup.

They're probably just cut costs on materials or heat treating and this is the result. 99% of people won't break them and they can replace a few parts and still make a few extra pennies on each set. Accounting will no doubt be pleased.
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I’m aware it’s not the arms breaking, but guess where all the pressure of the arm is going to on the baseplate, that exact spot.
 
14517900:Non_State_Actor said:
It's not the arms that are snapping or bending, it's the baseplate which should be the sturdiest bit of the whole setup.

They're probably just cut costs on materials or heat treating and this is the result. 99% of people won't break them and they can replace a few parts and still make a few extra pennies on each set. Accounting will no doubt be pleased.
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You know who will really be pleased is Big Snowboard. They profit off of this kind of thing
 
Happened to me a few years ago as well!

Was actually quite pleased with myself that I managed to wreck a pivot.

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Y’all set your dins too high. Had a similar instance where I completely nose dived and almost completely ripped the heel binding out of the ski. Had to get a remount and let’s just say, skiing back to the base was sketch that day. Besides, pivots are a pain in the ass as a binding just to get style points. Downgraded far to an attack binding and the snap in, release is so much more pleasing. Only benefit pivots ever had was reliable release patterns as long as the Dins were set right. High dins have also paid a price on another pair of my skis.

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14521381:SmokedGouda said:
Y’all set your dins too high. Had a similar instance where I completely nose dived and almost completely ripped the heel binding out of the ski. Had to get a remount and let’s just say, skiing back to the base was sketch that day. Besides, pivots are a pain in the ass as a binding just to get style points. Downgraded far to an attack binding and the snap in, release is so much more pleasing. Only benefit pivots ever had was reliable release patterns as long as the Dins were set right. High dins have also paid a price on another pair of my skis.

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 5:05:17am

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 5:05:59am
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that would be more of a forward pressure thing not a din
 
14521381:SmokedGouda said:
Y’all set your dins too high. Had a similar instance where I completely nose dived and almost completely ripped the heel binding out of the ski. Had to get a remount and let’s just say, skiing back to the base was sketch that day. Besides, pivots are a pain in the ass as a binding just to get style points. Downgraded far to an attack binding and the snap in, release is so much more pleasing. Only benefit pivots ever had was reliable release patterns as long as the Dins were set right. High dins have also paid a price on another pair of my skis.

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 5:05:17am

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 5:05:59am
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Oh damn, sounds like I do have them too high according to this guy on the internet who doesn't know me or anything about my setup! I'm going to turn them down to 4 tonight and go try some dub 10's tomorrow.
 
14521419:Schoess said:
Oh damn, sounds like I do have them too high according to this guy on the internet who doesn't know me or anything about my setup! I'm going to turn them down to 4 tonight and go try some dub 10's tomorrow.
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Not what I meant but aight. Some people out there crank their dins to almost the max of the binding like 12 and up. Mine are always around 8 or 9. Maybe there’s a small thing that could be better with a higher din(10+) but outside of that, most will be in that 7-9 range. I’m not coming out and saying to crank em to 4 or 1. Bruh I’d fly out just by hitting a bump straightlining ?
 
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