Pivot 14 vs 15 toe pieces

willpenguin6

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I’m wondering if anyone who has skied either of these has any input on to which is better since they work a little different then each other
 
Idk much about the toe piece, but the heel pieces provide immense pleasure with penetration and the ribbing really just adds the cherry on top for me
 
14286544:WoFlowz said:
Idk much about the toe piece, but the heel pieces provide immense pleasure with penetration and the ribbing really just adds the cherry on top for me

Well that's a mental image that's not coming out of my head anytime soon.
 
Used both, there is really not a difference in feel or performance. Pivot 15 is all metal which is heavier but more durable.
 
The 12s and 14s come with the plastic toe piece that allows for a vertical release. The toes on the 15s and 18s are full metal and do not have the toe wings that allow for a vertical release. Personally, I like the feel of the 15s/18s as they are much more durable with only a marginal weight increase. Toes for 15s and 18s also allow you to install a CAST touring system, something that is not possible with the 12s/14s. Hope this helps bro!
 
14286606:tdollo said:
The 12s and 14s come with the plastic toe piece that allows for a vertical release. The toes on the 15s and 18s are full metal and do not have the toe wings that allow for a vertical release. Personally, I like the feel of the 15s/18s as they are much more durable with only a marginal weight increase. Toes for 15s and 18s also allow you to install a CAST touring system, something that is not possible with the 12s/14s. Hope this helps bro!

Hooooooold on i swear we all discussed this last season but are you sure there’s no vertical release on the 15/18? I believe you’re correct but I swear someone explained why they actually do have vertical release
 
https://www.look-bindings.com/en-ca/technologies

Take a peak at the animations - seems like they both should pop upwards. Personally, I happily ski sths, attacks, pivots (14s), and somewhat unhappily (but accept the compromise) ski shifts. My guess is people on this site worry a ton about bindings because no one wants to destroy their tibia or acl, but in practice its probably mostly a) having them properly set up and checked b) not skiing out of your ability level and paying attention on stupid groomers c) luck.

** conditional on not buying a binding like the squire that is meant to set at a din of 4 or being an enormous person
 
14286709:animator said:
Hooooooold on i swear we all discussed this last season but are you sure there’s no vertical release on the 15/18? I believe you’re correct but I swear someone explained why they actually do have vertical release

14286915:ericforman said:
https://www.look-bindings.com/en-ca/technologies

Take a peak at the animations - seems like they both should pop upwards.

yep, here's the metal toe showing vertical release

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As someone who’s skied both, the fifteens and the eighteens feel more solid than their plastic toed opponent. And yes, they both have a vertical release
 
The metal toes have many benefits that have already been mentioned, namely durability and cast compatibility. The plastic toes have 3mm more elasticity and I have found that they are slightly easier to step into. I have both and I find the on snow performance to be basically indistinguishable
 
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