Park Etiquette Gone?

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skier should've anticipated that guy snaking him bc u can see the guy had no idea what he was doing in the park

still the snowboarders fault though
 
I'm not sure if its becoming more cautious with age, or the times are changing. But I seem to always assume someones going to cut left hard for no reason, or stop fast for no reason. Like I see a person, and I just assume they are going to somehow end up in front of me at the worst time.
 
hmmm i wonder how this would hold up in court. the argument for the skier is that they were using the feature as it was intended to be built where as the snowboard will claim the right of way as the downhill skier. i bet a jury would side with the snowboarder even though they had no business being in there what soever
 
14587795:mikem said:
I'm not sure if its becoming more cautious with age, or the times are changing. But I seem to always assume someones going to cut left hard for no reason, or stop fast for no reason. Like I see a person, and I just assume they are going to somehow end up in front of me at the worst time.
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Yeah, I would probably be sketched out watching that boarder ride backside not facing jump and just bail. Still, if you enter the park the boarder loses the "downhill skier" argument given he's not hitting the feature or clearing the landing.
 
14587809:partyandBS said:
hmmm i wonder how this would hold up in court. the argument for the skier is that they were using the feature as it was intended to be built where as the snowboard will claim the right of way as the downhill skier. i bet a jury would side with the snowboarder even though they had no business being in there what soever
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100% skier should have waited, down hill has right of way and the snowboard was below the skier the entire time. He may not have know what he was doing and probably shouldn’t have been in the park but even in the park right of way is to the rider that’s down hill.

14587813:thatsG said:
Yeah, I would probably be sketched out watching that boarder ride backside not facing jump and just bail. Still, if you enter the park the boarder loses the "downhill skier" argument given he's not hitting the feature or clearing the landing.
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14587814:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
It's just instagram, little kids and randoms who don't ski or snowboard. They don't know any better.
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Those comments pissed me the fuck off. Like, you don't know what you are talking about, shut it.
 
My feeling is liability is 80:20 snowboarder:skier

snowboarder shouldn’t be cutting across knuckles, shouldn’t be riding with their back to the jump, shouldn’t slow to a stop on the knuckle, shouldn’t do what they did without looking earlier. Shouldn’t be on a table unaware of their surroundings. Regardless of whether a skier was right there or waiting to drop, this boarder just shut the jump down by stopping on the knuckle.

skier should have bailed on the jump and at worst attempted to straight air to the left when they saw the boarder heading to the jump table. It’s hard when you’ve psyched yourself up for a trick but kooks gonna kook.
 
Snowboarder in the wrong but I absolutely people who refuse to bail. This shit happens to non kooks all the time, people at copper will legit land on you if you fall because they tail so hard. The park is fuckin empty just wait for the one gaper boarder to get down and then send it, would have taken 5 more seconds and hurt a lot less and you would have stomped it.
 
14587795:mikem said:
I'm not sure if its becoming more cautious with age, or the times are changing. But I seem to always assume someones going to cut left hard for no reason, or stop fast for no reason. Like I see a person, and I just assume they are going to somehow end up in front of me at the worst time.
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whenever that though crosses my mind while going up to a feature i lose all confidence and my knees fall from under me in anticipation of a 5 year old lying on the knuckle
 
14587840:GorillaMarketGMK said:
100% skier should have waited, down hill has right of way and the snowboard was below the skier the entire time. He may not have know what he was doing and probably shouldn’t have been in the park but even in the park right of way is to the rider that’s down hill.
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well the rules change in the terrain park especially if you are not hitting the feature in the manner it was intended to be hit. i think i would need to know more about the snowboarder and the park. if the snowboarder has some park experience and is doing an initial ride through to get a feel of the features prior to hitting it as the NSAA suggests then they would be acting well within reason. pretty hard to claim with your back to the feature though lmao. or had the boarder fallen on the first feature and had to skip the second. you could easily make the argument that pros frequently skip features on the side such as this and is common practice. i mean it happens on a lot of throwaway runs in xgames.

idk. i want the skier to be in the right but the more i think about it, the more i think they lacked awareness or took the risk thinking they had more space. best argument the skier has is that they were not in the park to hit the features as intended and that would mean they would have to prove they don’t have experience hitting jumps or rails so a social media sweep would be the best bet but they could easily say they just dont have any media of them doing so.
 
I don’t ski on weekends anymore because I got fed up dealing with this cock fuckery

If I’m hauling ass into a feature about to send something, I’m not looking out for who is and isn’t in the landing If he dies he dies.
 
14587903:partyandBS said:
well the rules change in the terrain park especially if you are not hitting the feature in the manner it was intended to be hit. i think i would need to know more about the snowboarder and the park. if the snowboarder has some park experience and is doing an initial ride through to get a feel of the features prior to hitting it as the NSAA suggests then they would be acting well within reason. pretty hard to claim with your back to the feature though lmao. or had the boarder fallen on the first feature and had to skip the second. you could easily make the argument that pros frequently skip features on the side such as this and is common practice. i mean it happens on a lot of throwaway runs in xgames.

idk. i want the skier to be in the right but the more i think about it, the more i think they lacked awareness or took the risk thinking they had more space. best argument the skier has is that they were not in the park to hit the features as intended and that would mean they would have to prove they don’t have experience hitting jumps or rails so a social media sweep would be the best bet but they could easily say they just dont have any media of them doing so.
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I personally know the guy. He has insane awareness. Deff took a risk there, also he should be able to expect the guy to move out of the way or not be as dumb. The park was mavericks at Stevens Pass or top phlite. idk if they changed the name.
 
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snowboarder at 100% fault if someone was injured.

He entered the red zone.

Downhill rider had right of way until he entered an area that endangers himself and others.
 
14587840:GorillaMarketGMK said:
100% skier should have waited, down hill has right of way and the snowboard was below the skier the entire time. He may not have know what he was doing and probably shouldn’t have been in the park but even in the park right of way is to the rider that’s down hill.
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I know its the one behinds fault but not in this case becouse you shouldnt go to the landing like that and the skier was on the takeoff when the boarder started to turn to the landing i say its the boarders fault
 
14587903:partyandBS said:
well the rules change in the terrain park especially if you are not hitting the feature in the manner it was intended to be hit. i think i would need to know more about the snowboarder and the park. if the snowboarder has some park experience and is doing an initial ride through to get a feel of the features prior to hitting it as the NSAA suggests then they would be acting well within reason. pretty hard to claim with your back to the feature though lmao. or had the boarder fallen on the first feature and had to skip the second. you could easily make the argument that pros frequently skip features on the side such as this and is common practice. i mean it happens on a lot of throwaway runs in xgames.

idk. i want the skier to be in the right but the more i think about it, the more i think they lacked awareness or took the risk thinking they had more space. best argument the skier has is that they were not in the park to hit the features as intended and that would mean they would have to prove they don’t have experience hitting jumps or rails so a social media sweep would be the best bet but they could easily say they just dont have any media of them doing so.
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Not in the resorts eyes, and in al honestly someone else said it best might be my experience in age and awareness that I see it that way now, but that from self experience on both sides. That said it’s easy to say how one would react in that situation on a form I’m sure if I was involved I’d possibly have a similar reaction at first then maybe calm down but it’s hard to say, from the footy I saw the skier had ample time to wait it out before dropping. It doesn’t look like there is a drop knuckle for the jump line so kinda hard to see the whole situation.
 
14587840:GorillaMarketGMK said:
100% skier should have waited, down hill has right of way and the snowboard was below the skier the entire time. He may not have know what he was doing and probably shouldn’t have been in the park but even in the park right of way is to the rider that’s down hill.
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Oh looks like we already found one of them
 
Those comments are legitimately concerning. Holy shit. This is the kind of shit when you tell somebody them and their family can't stand on the knuckle and they say "downhill skier has the right of way" or some other bullshit then threaten you and report you because you harrassed them while they were enjoying their day.

Fuck people need to be aware. Hell even if the boarder wasn't at fault(which he 100% is) would you walk in front of a car to get hit in a cross walk just because you have the right of way?
 
Kinda off topic but what pisses me off is when someone gets bodied on a feature (which is fine I’m not dissing) and loses a ski and takes like 5 mins standing in the fucking landing
 
14588013:Someguy9 said:
Kinda off topic but what pisses me off is when someone gets bodied on a feature (which is fine I’m not dissing) and loses a ski and takes like 5 mins standing in the fucking landing
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I feel you, but sometimes i’ll bail and just be all discombobulated and i’ll be flailing around trying to get my shit.
 
14587962:theabortionator said:
would you walk in front of a car to get hit in a cross walk just because you have the right of way?
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would you run over a pedestrian just because you have the right of way?
 
14587962:theabortionator said:
Those comments are legitimately concerning. Holy shit. This is the kind of shit when you tell somebody them and their family can't stand on the knuckle and they say "downhill skier has the right of way" or some other bullshit then threaten you and report you because you harrassed them while they were enjoying their day.

Fuck people need to be aware. Hell even if the boarder wasn't at fault(which he 100% is) would you walk in front of a car to get hit in a cross walk just because you have the right of way?
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the car is still at fault tho…
 
This is ridiculous! That poor snowboarder, why didnt the dumb skier just spend more time in the air and gap over him?! People are so inconsiderate.
 
14588026:Voyage86 said:
the car is still at fault tho…
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I mean if you're alive and able to collect a settlement I guess thats good. But if you're dead does it really matter who had the right of way?
 
14588091:GorillaMarketGMK said:
Oh no???? are you upset I had a different opinion then you what ever will you do?
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Wasn’t just me it was also 24 other ppl who disagreed with your shitty opinion.
 
The skier is obviously at fault he should’ve froze himself in the air and let the snowboarder pass
 
14588056:theabortionator said:
I mean if you're alive and able to collect a settlement I guess thats good. But if you're dead does it really matter who had the right of way?
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Not really for you but your family can enjoy your payout.
 
14587903:partyandBS said:
well the rules change in the terrain park especially if you are not hitting the feature in the manner it was intended to be hit. i think i would need to know more about the snowboarder and the park. if the snowboarder has some park experience and is doing an initial ride through to get a feel of the features prior to hitting it as the NSAA suggests then they would be acting well within reason. pretty hard to claim with your back to the feature though lmao. or had the boarder fallen on the first feature and had to skip the second. you could easily make the argument that pros frequently skip features on the side such as this and is common practice. i mean it happens on a lot of throwaway runs in xgames.

idk. i want the skier to be in the right but the more i think about it, the more i think they lacked awareness or took the risk thinking they had more space. best argument the skier has is that they were not in the park to hit the features as intended and that would mean they would have to prove they don’t have experience hitting jumps or rails so a social media sweep would be the best bet but they could easily say they just dont have any media of them doing so.
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Riding down the very edge of a knuckle or landing is totally fine but the boarder crossed directly under the jump in an erratic way which would put the fault mostly on him IMO
 
Boarder's fault for sure cause its in the terrain park and if you can't ride without being aware or knowing park rules then you shouldnt be on the features.

I honestly think the skiers friends on the knuckle needs to get flamed more cause they were on both sides and didn't do shit to warn the boarder or stop him. They yelled oh my god and move too late which isnt gonna help anything and mightve even made the boarder stop more
 
Park etiquette only exists among park riders. Nobody teaches Jerry where he or she can and can't go or what they can and can't do in the confines of the park. In this case it is pretty 50/50 imo. The skier shouldn't have even dropped with a obvious Jerry downhill. You can't assume someone is gonna do the right thing. I get he was probably amped up and it's annoying as fuck to bail but there was time to peel off. The boarder obviously shouldn't have crossed into the danger zone and stopped where they did. Really a fuck around and find out moment for them. Idk it's honestly a wash. If it came to court I honestly think they side with the boarder as much as it kills me to say it cuz it really chaps my ass when people stand in landings.
 
14587888:Farmville420 said:
This shit happens to non kooks all the time, people at copper will legit land on you if you fall because they tail so hard.
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I hate being tailed so bad because I am always trying shit and always falling. I've gotten nailed so many times because of this lol
 
Allow me to rant:

I ski at eldora every weekend. I have seen so much braindead shit. I can’t even count how many times I’ve seen people simply stopped on the knuckle. I cannot fathom the fucking parents that think it’s a good idea to bring their 4 year old children into the park on a leash. Kids rolling over the lips for rails. Kids stuck on the takeoff of jumps because they came in with a 90° pizza. Jerries sidehitting rails and double ejecting on the landing cause their dins are at 2, then taking 5 minutes to gather their shit and then, to top it all off, decide to fuck around with their bindings right behind the rail. Jerries blasting the knuckle at the hike park just to side hit. Inexperienced parents and their kids deciding that instead of taking the lifts that service the bunny hill, they will bus up the park lift and stop it every time because the lift isn’t meant for your snotty nose, diabetic, gen alpha ass iPad kid. Then take the single green exit run, but be sure to return to the same fucking lift. Better yet, go straight through the park and yell at people hitting features normally, because they “nearly hit you” even though you are snailing your way through the whole ass run and letting your kid get into every single dangerous situation and landing zone possible.

sorry guys I think I just hate young kids
 
If you’re the skier and you’re all fired up to rip a sev and see a boarder all the way on the outside of the jump you would never expect the dude to cut directly onto the landing, you would think hes gonna stay on the side like a normal person. Like why tf would someone ride 2 km/h on the far right of a jump and cut onto the landing it doesnt make sense
 
Its not gone, its just that you have a bunch of immature beaters involved in the sport nowadays or literal children with no sense of real life experience.
 
14588056:theabortionator said:
I mean if you're alive and able to collect a settlement I guess thats good. But if you're dead does it really matter who had the right of way?
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It does for the driver who hit you lol.
 
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