Yeah, I have the red ones too...still skiing on them, or was until Sunday. I got them used from a kid in Colorado Springs a few years ago in perfect condition. Badass skiis, and and still love them (although they are no Seth's). I was always careful never to get them stone ground so the bases would stay relatively thick. But, I was up at Crested Butte on Sunday (they got 81 inches that last week) and destroyed the bases on some rocks...Core shots all under the boot on both skis (very sad). They are begining to Delam, but not to the point of no return yet. Man, I am gonna miss theses puppies if I can't get them repaired....