I agree with you for the most part, (which is obviously pretty funny)
I think everyone has known that TNF is legit as hell. BUT, although they have been baggy, they haven't been park skiing/freeride scene/snowboarding baggy - and never tall enough for big guys, especially to be considered stylish. unless you're really short. I'm 6'3 and that's the reason why I have never bought their outerwear.