Olympic official says slopestyle is too dangerous for Olympics

Look at the stats of other sports in the Olympics and the rate of injury then compare it to slope. If its a significant deviation in the injury rate then the IOC should do the logical thing.... Fuck off. Take that anyway you want it.

Maybe they really should do some more investigation about money laundering, corruption, work conditions of people constructing the venues, and how the games are a geopolitical dick swinging contest that has been used to leverage international interests.

Or whatever. Why think that deeply into something that doesn't directly concern me. I mean its just skiing. Isn't it?
 
I hope they're joking... How can they have skeleton and luge, and even halfpipe if they think slopestyle is too dangerous?

The injury rate is the same with almost any sport, it's just the matter of where the injury occurs...
 
Even so, they only referred to the snowboarders, who were falling all over the place during the finals and hucking way too hard. They can kick the snowboarders off the slope course, but why bring skiing down with it? They aren't the same, and shouldn't be clumped together as such.
 
They even mention in the artcile that half-pipe has seen a lot of injuries too, but they're only focusing on slopestyle... chodes.
 
if the olympic course had your standard 60-80ft step-overs instead 100ft step-downs this wouldn't be an issue.
 
12950713:jason... said:
if the olympic course had your standard 60-80ft step-overs instead 100ft step-downs this wouldn't be an issue.
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I really hope it doesn't come to this,

I tried to go back and watch X-games after the Olympics and it was terrible compared to the Olympics. Olympic slope was by far the best and most exciting slope contest yet
 
Injury is in ever sport. If an athlete wants to risk injury to participate in the sport he/she loves then that's a risk they choose to take and the Olympic committee or officials or whoever shouldn't be able to make that decision for other people.
 
12950674:Drail said:
Even so, they only referred to the snowboarders, who were falling all over the place during the finals and hucking way too hard. They can kick the snowboarders off the slope course, but why bring skiing down with it? They aren't the same, and shouldn't be clumped together as such.
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SICK POST BRO
 
12950946:theabortionator said:
SICK POST BRO
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Can't tell if serious it sarcastic. I got nothing but love for snowboarding and thought their slope finals was kind of a let down and embarrassment to the sport. So many unfinished runs, hands down on podium runs, and things looked hucked.

If skeleton Lugers die it doesn't mean that regular luge should face the same safety regulations. They are physically differnt sports. Snowboarders brake their wrists (and from what I've seen personally - their backs) a lot more often, skiers have issues with blowing their knees. Besides pre existing knee injuries that the skiers had, were there any injuries in the practice, qualification or finals at the Olympics on the skiing side?
 
12950893:shreddinthegnarr said:
Injury is in ever sport. If an athlete wants to risk injury to participate in the sport he/she loves then that's a risk they choose to take and the Olympic committee or officials or whoever shouldn't be able to make that decision for other people.
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To be fair, this was simply bringing up caution of the discipline in the Olympics. They're not trying to shut down the sport, but cover their own asses with insurance and accountability. It's 100% their call and doesn't reflect in the actual willingness of the individual or sport as a whole. When x games got rid of the snowmobile event last year it wasn't a debate about the willingness of people and they weren't trying to stop the sport. It's just business, don't take it personally.
 
"I can say what I feel: That sport should change, otherwise we shouldn't have it. But the IOC may not follow that," he said.

inb4 trick clearance and rules as to what athletes can and cannot do. should be only a matter of time now.
 
12951022:loganimlach said:
"I can say what I feel: That sport should change, otherwise we shouldn't have it. But the IOC may not follow that," he said.

inb4 trick clearance and rules as to what athletes can and cannot do. should be only a matter of time now.
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Since 'we' started throwing doubles in slope competition I haven't really come up with a scenario where we can avoid this. I find it funny though. People who preach style over technicality in completion are arguing against their own ideals. The only way someone isn't going to do what they want is by forcing them. Right now the top dudes are choosing to do triples. Telling them to do anything but what they want to do is bad, irrelevant of what anyone thinks 'should' be done.

Every single legitimate sport is thick with regulation. We would be fools to think it won't eventually happen in slope style. The question I've been asking myself lately though is what's next? Skiing has a beautiful history of reinventing itself when things get regulated and stagnant. It's like fashion and music. Somehow the human creativity finds a way to come up with something that was once though impossible. All it takes is one person to have a thought and it completely changes the game.
 
Take it down. USA swept. And plus its always cool to say that we do a sport that was "too dangerous to put in the Olympics twice.
 
12951037:Drail said:
Since 'we' started throwing doubles in slope competition I haven't really come up with a scenario where we can avoid this. I find it funny though. People who preach style over technicality in completion are arguing against their own ideals. The only way someone isn't going to do what they want is by forcing them. Right now the top dudes are choosing to do triples. Telling them to do anything but what they want to do is bad, irrelevant of what anyone thinks 'should' be done.

Every single legitimate sport is thick with regulation. We would be fools to think it won't eventually happen in slope style. The question I've been asking myself lately though is what's next? Skiing has a beautiful history of reinventing itself when things get regulated and stagnant. It's like fashion and music. Somehow the human creativity finds a way to come up with something that was once though impossible. All it takes is one person to have a thought and it completely changes the game.
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All that I can hope for is that slopestyle competitions become so stagnant and boring (a la moguls) that a larger spotlight becomes shone on big mountain and urban skiing, warranting larger budgets for the films and athletes. the beating that they took leading up to the olympics is just disgraceful. how cool will it be if kids can say "hey I want to grow up and my job be a professional big mountain skier" and their teacher won't look at them like their eating mushrooms?
 
12951051:loganimlach said:
All that I can hope for is that slopestyle competitions become so stagnant and boring (a la moguls) that a larger spotlight becomes shone on big mountain and urban skiing, warranting larger budgets for the films and athletes. the beating that they took leading up to the olympics is just disgraceful. how cool will it be if kids can say "hey I want to grow up and my job be a professional big mountain skier" and their teacher won't look at them like their eating mushrooms?
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True that. When I was in elementary school I was all "JLB is my hero, I wanna be an olympic mogul skier" and people accepted that as a good goal. As soon as I started doing park skiing in high school, I was looked at as crazy and wasting my time. It'd be nice if society came around to 'alternative' sports and accepted them as a viable goal in life. I've always thought that when the grey hairs die things will change. Now, I'm not so sure. The right wing grey hairs just get replaced with more of the same mentality. I'm gonna stop now though because if I keep going I'm just gonna get Into a debate about the psychology of humanity, capitalism, and the drive to become rich for the sake of being rich.

All I know is that skiing is fun as hell and that's all that really matters
 
The IOC likes its curling. It's safe and boring like most events: skate skiing, luge, bobsled,.. I thing most of those sports are boring to watch because everyone does the same line. It's probably fun to be in a bobsled going 100 mph. Slope and pipe are fun to watch because each run is unique. I hate the IOC so much
 
12951022:loganimlach said:
"I can say what I feel: That sport should change, otherwise we shouldn't have it. But the IOC may not follow that," he said.

inb4 trick clearance and rules as to what athletes can and cannot do. should be only a matter of time now.
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Already happening in Canada on the provincial and national level.

Invert qualification is a bitch.
 
The whole slopestyle will turn into moguls is sort of flawed. Every slope course is different and thus requires different levels of adaptability to win, mogul skiing is pretty much the same thing over and over again. Although I do hold fears that half pipe will become boring.
 
12950780:Holte said:
Here's another article. Sounds like it's just one safety official's thought, not indicative of the IOC.
http://www.pjstar.com/article/20140413/NEWS/140419683/10930/SPORTS
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Hope this one guy doesn't get his way. I doubt the IOC would eliminate slopestyle because it was super popular and exciting to watch. When I live-streamed slope so I could watch everyone, it seemed like the athletes who were getting hurt were mostly from countries where slope is a new sport. They'll get better.

When Olga Korbut did the first back flip on beam in the Olympics, there was talk of banning flips on beam. Now 10 year olds are doing 2-3 flips in a row on beam. Stifling progression is a bad idea.

Keep slope style creative.
 
I don't see why everyone cares so much... So what if they pull it out of the Olympics, we made it without it in the Olympics up until this year. It's not like they will shut slope down all together. Stop being pussies, 66% of our team was sell outs anyways.
 
This is 100% due to that drama queen shawn white and other snowboarders complaining via social media. In addition women need to pull themselves out of comps they don't feel comfortable in and stop hucking themselves and hoping they land.

The riders who were prepared and skilled enough did just fine. Besides Horgomo's injury, I don't think there was another men's injury in both disciplines.
 
If the IOC is so concerned about injuries, why do they allow boxing, a "sport" where the object is to render your opponent unconscious? Basically, if you knock your opponent out, i.e, give him/her a concussion, you win! To me, this is whack. Boxing was added to the Olympics in 1904. Women's boxing was added in 2012. Awesome! Now women can get brain damage, too!

Leave slope style alone. It is a creative sport with few rules. It will continue to exist and progress with or without contests. IMO, slope contests should never be judged based on a standard list of tricks that are assigned a degree of difficulty. Slope should always be judged by recently-retired slope skiers who "get it." And the sickest run should win.
 
if the IOC really cared about safety, they would ban bobsled too. they must be forgetting about that guy who died during bobsled qualifiers in whistler.
 
12951009:Drail said:
Can't tell if serious it sarcastic. I got nothing but love for snowboarding and thought their slope finals was kind of a let down and embarrassment to the sport. So many unfinished runs, hands down on podium runs, and things looked hucked.

If skeleton Lugers die it doesn't mean that regular luge should face the same safety regulations. They are physically differnt sports. Snowboarders brake their wrists (and from what I've seen personally - their backs) a lot more often, skiers have issues with blowing their knees. Besides pre existing knee injuries that the skiers had, were there any injuries in the practice, qualification or finals at the Olympics on the skiing side?
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Snowboarding helped pave the way for freestyle skiing to get there.

And you're going to sports that have gone on for years on one contest? That sounds pretty scientific. I understand that ultimately the Olympic slopestyle is what matters in terms of them judging having the even back, but come on man.

Bad things can happen in either sport. A good slopestyle course is designed with both sports in mind. Being concerned about the future of the sport is understandable but no need to be a dick.
 
12951969:Alex_G said:
if the IOC really cared about safety, they would ban bobsled too. they must be forgetting about that guy who died during bobsled qualifiers in whistler.
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I think you are thinking of the luge guy, but the point still stands of some dude dying in an event and it is still around. The guy in the article is a bone head.
 
12951037:Drail said:
Every single legitimate sport is thick with regulation.
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I don't think too many parallels should be drawn between skiing and "most legitimate sports" regulation-wise. Yes, in sports where several athletes are on a track, field or court at the same time there are rules that prevent them from hurting each other. Still, there aren't that many rules in the "big" legitimate sports that limit the athlete's opportunities to showcase his or her skill, are there?

A hockey player can shoot the puck as hard as he likes, even if it might hurt an opponent who gets in the way of the shot. A downhill racer can go as fast as he can, even if the risk of getting hurt increases with velocity. A ski jumper is free to jump as far as he wishes, the only limit being the size of the hill the contest is held at.

I know aerials has strict regulations, but as a sport it doesn't value the same things as slopestyle. Aerials is all about execution of predetermined tricks, while in a slope comp you'll be rewarded for being creative and coming up with new stuff in addition to execution. You can't do that if there's a limit on the amount of spins you're allowed to do.

The sport is evolving, but I doubt that its fundamental idea will change.
 
12951402:-MK- said:
I don't see why everyone cares so much... So what if they pull it out of the Olympics, we made it without it in the Olympics up until this year. It's not like they will shut slope down all together. Stop being pussies, 66% of our team was sell outs anyways.
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75%*
 
Ski cross had a girl break her back. Downhill had a girl blow both knees, and I'm fairly certain there were others. Luge had that guy die 4 years ago. None of these sports are drawing any criticism.

There was a marked difference in the ski and snowboard athletes perceptions of the course. All the skiers loved it, most of the snowboarders said it was too big. I can think of a couple solutions to this problem. First, slightly better course construction. Personally, I thought the course was really good and led to a good show, but realistically it could have been slightly smaller.

Second, a more strict qualifying process. Half the dudes that were competing had no business hitting jumps that size and couldn't do most of the advanced tricks all the top dudes were doing. With a couple minor changes, there's no reason slope can't be a legitimate, safe contest (not that it already isn't, I'm speaking form the IOC's eyes.)
 
12952073:Frediboy94 said:
I don't think too many parallels should be drawn between skiing and "most legitimate sports" regulation-wise. Yes, in sports where several athletes are on a track, field or court at the same time there are rules that prevent them from hurting each other. Still, there aren't that many rules in the "big" legitimate sports that limit the athlete's opportunities to showcase his or her skill, are there?

A hockey player can shoot the puck as hard as he likes, even if it might hurt an opponent who gets in the way of the shot. A downhill racer can go as fast as he can, even if the risk of getting hurt increases with velocity. A ski jumper is free to jump as far as he wishes, the only limit being the size of the hill the contest is held at.

I know aerials has strict regulations, but as a sport it doesn't value the same things as slopestyle. Aerials is all about execution of predetermined tricks, while in a slope comp you'll be rewarded for being creative and coming up with new stuff in addition to execution. You can't do that if there's a limit on the amount of spins you're allowed to do.

The sport is evolving, but I doubt that its fundamental idea will change.
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Hockey has crazy regulations... the rink is regulated for size, nets, pads, rules about hitting, etc. Downhill racers have regulations on what kind of skis they use, how long they are, and the course is regulated in it's length and difficulty. Nordic jumping sites have the exact same dimensions, everywhere it is held in the world. That my friend, is very regulated.
 
12951977:theabortionator said:
And you're going to sports that have gone on for years on one contest? That sounds pretty scientific. I understand that ultimately the Olympic slopestyle is what matters in terms of them judging having the even back, but come on man.
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Wut?
 
12952308:SkiThe603 said:
Pretty sure the only person who got seriously hurt during the Olympics was Shawn White. So my question for this IOC official is, "who the fuck are you and when can I stomp on your face with my ski boot?"
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Shawn white wasn't even really hurt. It was pretty obvious that his "injury" was an exit strategy. Then a couple days later he bailed.
 
Only Olympic sport I would consider too dangerous would be skeleton racing. I'm surprised the athletes can go so fast on account of their monstrous balls creating so much drag.
 
12951980:Kooky_Lukey said:
I think you are thinking of the luge guy, but the point still stands of some dude dying in an event and it is still around. The guy in the article is a bone head.
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yea thats what i was referring to my bad
 
“I can say what I feel: That sport should change, otherwise we shouldn’t have it. But the IOC may not follow that,” Engebretsen told the AP in Monaco, calling slope style “problematic.” “Something has to be done with that sport.”

we need to change our sport? yeah you can go fuck yah self buddy. its a dangerous sport period. plus no one died in training this year soo if were removing dangerous sports why dont we take out bob sledding this year? naw they just want us gone because free skiing is to new age for these old fucks. END RANT
 
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