Oldest Twintips?

lil.Boye

lil.Boye

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Found these weird looking skis on Finn.no (Norwegian craigslist)

seller says they are from 1970 and have a twin tip. never heard of these before. /claim to the first twin tip ski?

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14475359:LOOK_at_me said:
are those pivots
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Well yes, they are called n57. The heel turns just like the pivot and they were made by look in the 70’s and 80’s. We have some old carvingskis in the barn with them. Super weird design with the brakes on the front binding. Don’t see why that would be practical
 
14475368:lil.Boye said:
Well yes, they are called n57. The heel turns just like the pivot and they were made by look in the 70’s and 80’s. We have some old carvingskis in the barn with them. Super weird design with the brakes on the front binding. Don’t see why that would be practical
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The heelpiece is always heavier than the toe so I'd say putting the brakes on the toe would help balance the weight out.
 
Weren’t the first twin tips from the 90s? Or at least the first commercially sold ones, I remember there being a thread about this lol
 
14475524:Farmville420 said:
Weren’t the first twin tips from the 90s? Or at least the first commercially sold ones, I remember there being a thread about this lol
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There have been way many threads about it, but i think these pre date them all. There were a lot of hot doggers riding for atomic in the 70’s and these skis might have been a sample of sorts. The bindings are N56 from late 60’s and got replaced by the N77 by mid 70’s. So these being from the 90’s would be weird for both bindings and the graphic
 
They definitely look like something from the 70's. Be cool to just cop them and hang them on the wall.
 
There were a few models back in the day with more turned up and/or rounded tails than normal. I specifically remember seeing old Olin Mark IVs bouncing around ski swaps back in the day. A far as I know a lot of the time they were marketed as mogul skis, with the high tails helping to keep you from getting hooked up between turns.

The original K2 Poacher may have been the first of these marketed specifically as a "trick" ski and not just a variation on a mogul ski, though it wasn't super successful. It wasn't until the original Salomon 1080 and the first Lines that "twin tips" became a legit part of ski culture. That was really when brands started specifically marketing and building them as jump/park skis that were intended to ride, take off, and land backwards.
 
Twin tips on film from 1931 [video]https://youtu.be/IuK_mykh2qM[/video]I think [tag=17763]@JLev[/tag] posted some 1930s twin tips on his IG last year from a museum

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14475593:Burrito said:
There were a few models back in the day with more turned up and/or rounded tails than normal. I specifically remember seeing old Olin Mark IVs bouncing around ski swaps back in the day. A far as I know a lot of the time they were marketed as mogul skis, with the high tails helping to keep you from getting hooked up between turns.

The original K2 Poacher may have been the first of these marketed specifically as a "trick" ski and not just a variation on a mogul ski, though it wasn't super successful. It wasn't until the original Salomon 1080 and the first Lines that "twin tips" became a legit part of ski culture. That was really when brands started specifically marketing and building them as jump/park skis that were intended to ride, take off, and land backwards.
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I believe u mean K2 Enemy....not poacher
 
14475714:cndr said:
The original poacher was some years earlier iirc.

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Yup. That’s the one. The OG Poacher. The Enemy didn’t come until a few years later, after the 1080. I didn’t even know the Poachers existed until I heard someone mention them on a podcast as what they considered the first twin tip.

Side note: My first twins were those Dynastar Concepts. The cow spot bases were fantastic.

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14475714:cndr said:
The original poacher was some years earlier iirc.

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Ahh intereseting, I do remember seeing those skis now....

This is the general era of the Enemy im talking about(obviously not the Public Enemy which did come out post 1080's) , I think the simple star graphic ones where the first model, then the red and black ones...

how much earlier did the Poacher come out?

also I was thinking that this era of Enemy came out before the 1080, but could be wrong
 
pretty sure those are ballet skis op. Most companies made them at that time, I think rossi, atomic, olin, and blizzards had the highest tail height but still nowhere close to a modern twin, also most of them topped out at 170 maybe 180cm which was considered a kids ski back then

Olin Mk IV's were the first "full length" twin that was made for more then just ballet, though I think they came in smaller sizes for that too. Comp IV's which I think were a later 70s model are pretty unique in they had squared off tips for doing tip rolls, kinda like how on3ps/moments are easier to nose block with. I think these topped out at 190cm from what I've seen on ebay which was still kinda short but not a pure ballet ski.

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I nerded out on this stuff a few years ago trying to find the earliest twins, and these were definitely up there if you discount one-off wooden skis for filming/ski patrol
 
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