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story: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29/lamo.profile.wikileaks/index.html?hpt=C2
brief bio on Lamo and Asperger's: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/lamo/
chat logs between Adrian and Manning:
Logs between Nadmin and Lamo's wife Laura, and Nadim and Lamo, as sent to WikiLeaks by NadimFollowing Adrian Lamo's recent exposure of Bradley Manning, I reveal chat logs with Lauren Lamo (Adrian Lamo's wife), incriminating him in many ways.These chat logs are dated. They are related to the recent Wired exclusive interview with Lamo, which, as you'll soon find out, was complete bullshit:APRIL 23 2010Nadim: I now have the capacity to leak Hackers WantedNadim: Letting you down on that front in the past's left a mark in my memoryNadim: I haven't forgotten =)Adrian: Why do you put up with me>? I´m often a jerk, arrogant, totally sure of my theories, and willing to crash and burn to make a point.Adrian: Make no mistake, you;re one of roughly fie people I trust.APRIL 29 2010Lauren: he is now at sacramento mental healthLauren: Nadim. He doesn't want to be talked to.Nadim: Why mental institutions?? Is it really that bad???Nadim: I'm shocked and hurtLauren: Yes.Lauren: You couldn't ever tell by the speech slurring, and the lack to follow through with things?Lauren: So many medications.Nadim: I haven't spoken vocally with him in a whileNadim: But yes, I confronted him about his lack of following up only last weekLauren: my love wasn't enough to get him to change, and i meant the world to him.Nadim: I thought he wasn't changing at all!Nadim: I thought he was simply distancing himself from me!Lauren: i made him want to change his life, nadim. and I don't just say this to boast or make myself seem more important.Nadim: And I said to myself I'd let him do it since he probably has more important things in his lifeNadim: He never ever mentioned drugsNadim: EverNadim: I kept asking him for months wtf was happeningNadim: Why he was getting so distant and hard to reachNadim: He was such a conversationalist when I first met him!Lauren: he is very very VERY private about his personal lfie.Lauren: life"Nadim: I trust him to beLauren: he has a persona, "Adrian Lamo" he thinks he must keep up.Nadim: I know about that.Nadim: God damn itNadim: Such a spiritNadim: It's just uglyNadim: Such a spirit to have a flaw so tragic and at the same time so meaninglessNadim: Why prescription drugs???Nadim: I understand the exact name of the drugs ought to be private info, but could you at least tell me what the drugs did?Nadim: I mean, were they painkillers? amphetamines? what?Lauren: It's hard to explain, he is very sensitive and in touch with every part of his body, down to the pulses in his brain and the nerve endings... the meds he takes he regulates it all but its just too much.Nadim: AhNadim: There were 2600 articles published about "hacking your brain" with certain "boosting" medicationsNadim: Is this related?Lauren: It has crippled him, into living like this, and without these meds, he can't function, or so he thinks.Lauren: I suppose.Lauren: The first and only time he ever stayed at my parents home in phoenix he stole a bunch of my mothers medication (one that he too happened to be taking normally) and gave us quite a scare in the morning.Nadim: Adrian doesn't trust people, but makes his entire functioning dependent on drugs?Nadim: I'm angry at him.Nadim: He could have so easily avoided such a trapLauren: so lackadaisical he was spilling his coffee all over himself burning his legs and falling over speaking nonsense.Nadim: What's his side of the story? He must have constructed many arguments in his defense.Lauren: It's been a long time coming.Nadim:
!Lauren: A movie recently made me realize what its like for adrian and for those on the outside. It was a terrible cheesy movie but it was about the start of Alc-anon.Nadim: Does he think the people around him don't understand?Nadim: That they're exagerating and picking up wrong signals?Lauren: Yes, and he thinks we all just want him to be "normal" and not take any drugs.Lauren: he doesnt realize he seems drunk and slurs and sways.Lauren: Half the time he doesn't remember it.Nadim: FuckNadim: What treatment is he receiving?Nadim: Are his parents alright?Lauren: I once picked him up, drove him with me to the clinic I needed to go to on a saturday, prior to going to the clinic we went through the drive thru for mcdonalds bfast, i got him a coffee and two breakfast sandwiches and even returned from the hospital and after our nap we took when we arrived back, he woke up and said "oh my god, im so sorry we didnt go to the clinic"Lauren: He will be receiving "time" really. Supervised, only prescribed medication at prescribed times. I've been through this process so it's a lot easier knowing what he is going through.Lauren: He will have counselling classes with other abusers whether alcohol, hard drugs, just mentally ill or even folks like him, rx drug abusers.Nadim: I really wish there was anything I could do. It's painful to sit there watching him sufferLauren: He isn't suffering.Lauren: We are helping him stop the suffering.Nadim: When you told him that you guys did indeed go to the clinic, how did he react??Lauren: His family was so worried they called the paramedics/firefighters to where they knew he was hanging out, since he decided to choose the highway when they asked him, adrian please let us help you with your medications. or we will not give them to you to administer on your own.Lauren: so he filled a final rx he had money for at the rite-aid pharmacy and was found just taking them like candy.Lauren: he was just like... oh.Lauren: i found him, when i picked him up that morning, lying on the floor, twisted up as if he had fallen and dropped dead, in his clothes on his wires and tech. just down. drooling. from being so gone.Lauren: i shook him and shook him, he would wake up and go huh, and then drop his head hard back on the carpet.Lauren: and fall asleep again.Lauren: the people at the clinic were mocking him, acting drunk and play swaying, and humiliating me. (and him, but he would never know)Lauren: I told him via text how it humiliated me and he got mad and said i say the harshest things.[...]Lauren: his hacking days, i believe were all because of his drug use. he was able to do it.Lauren: also part of the reason his mouth is rotten.Lauren: and he breaks teeth on random things.MAY 5 2010Lauren: he's going public with the whole experience next week through wired.Lauren: but I doubt the part with his true struggle with drugs and his history with them will be disclosedLauren: mainly the article is going to be about hackers and such with aspergersLauren: he told me that today. but who knows if Kevin poulsen will go through with it.JUNE 10 2010NadimI am very, very angry.NadimFor what you did to Manning.Adrian*to* manning?Encrypted OTR chat initiated. - 7:21AdrianHe's a traitor at best.NadimYou liar.AdrianHis own words damn him, not mine.NadimHis own words, that you gave to the FBI.NadimThat he confided in youAdrianArmy CI, to be exact.NadimSame as you confided in Wired about your "asperger's arrest"NadimOh, by the wayNadimI know the truth about that.NadimAnd about many other things tooNadimAnd I'm going to make you pay.AdrianDo what you feel you need to do.NadimYou got it.END OF CHAT LOGSI really don't care about anonymity. I care about earning Manning some degree of justice, what with Lamo's blatant betrayal. Contact me if you wish.##########################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################Transcript of the alleged log between Lamo and Manningas sent to Wikileaks by Lamo. The transcript is clearly only a smallportion and had unmistakedly been edited, for instance, note theduplication of some lines around (12:26:09). Also note the use ofthe word "Confession".(12:15:11 PM) bradass87: hypothetical question: if you had free reign overclassified networks for long periods of time... say, 8-9 months... and yousaw incredible things, awful things... things that belonged in the publicdomain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington DC...what would you do?(12:16:38 PM) bradass87: or Guantanamo, Bagram, Bucca, Taji, VBC for thatmatter...(12:17:47 PM) bradass87: things that would have an impact on 7 billionpeople(12:21:24 PM) bradass87: say... a database of half a million events duringthe iraq war... from 2004 to .. with reports, date time groups,lat-lon locations, casualty figures... ? or 260,000 state departmentcables from embassies and consulates all over the world, explaining howthe first world exploits the third, in detail, from an internalperspective?(12:22:49 PM) bradass87: the air-gap has been penetrated... =L(12:23:19 PM) Adrian: how so?(12:26:09 PM) Adrian: yt?(12:26:09 PM) bradass87: lets just say *someone* i know intimately well,has been penetrating US classified networks, mining data like the onesdescribed... and been transferring that data from the classified networksover the "air gap" onto a commercial network computer... sorting the data,compressing it, encrypting it, and uploading it to a crazy white hairedaussie who can't seem to stay in one country very long =L(12:27:13 PM) bradass87: im here(12:27:24 PM) Adrian: Depends. What are the particulars?(12:28:19 PM) bradass87: theres substantial lag i think(12:29:52 PM) Adrian: I don't understand.(12:30:13 PM) bradass87: what was the last message you recieved?(12:30:47 PM) Adrian: (12:28:19 PM) bradass87: theres substantial lag i think(12:30:56 PM) bradass87: before that(12:31:09 PM) Adrian
12:26:09 PM) bradass87: lets just say *someone* i know intimately well,has been penetrating US classified networks, mining data like the onesdescribed... and been transferring that data from the classified networksover the "air gap" onto a commercial network computer... sorting the data,compressing it, encrypting it, and uploading it to a crazy white hairedaussie who can't seem to stay in one country very long =L(12:27:13 PM) bradass87: im here(12:27:24 PM) Adrian: Depends. What are the particulars?(12:31:43 PM) bradass87: crazy white haired dude = Julian Assange(12:33:05 PM) bradass87: in other words... ive made a huge mess :'((12:35:17 PM) bradass87: im sorry... im just emotionally fractured(12:39:12 PM) bradass87: im a total mess(12:41:54 PM) bradass87: i think im in more potential heat than you ever were(12:41:54 PM) Adrian : I have more messages than resourcesallocatable to action them. Please be very patient.(12:45:59 PM) Adrian: not mandatorily(12:46:08 PM) Adrian: there are always outs(12:46:17 PM) Adrian: how long have you helped WIkileaks?(12:49:09 PM) bradass87: since they released the 9/11 "pager messages"(12:49:38 PM) bradass87: i immediately recognized that they were from anNSA database, and i felt comfortable enough to come forward(12:50:20 PM) bradass87: so... right after thanksgiving timeframe of 2009(12:52:33 PM) bradass87: Hilary Clinton, and several thousand diplomatsaround the world are going to have a heart attack when they wake up onemorning, and finds an entire repository of classified foreign policy isavailable, in searchable format to the public... =L(12:53:41 PM) bradass87: s/Hilary/Hillary(12:54:47 PM) Adrian: What sort of content?(12:56:36 PM) Adrian: brb cigarette(12:56:43 PM) Adrian: keep typing : I have more messages than resourcesallocatable to action them. Please be very patient.(1:11:54 PM) bradass87: and... its important that it gets out... i feel,for some bizarre reason(1:12:02 PM) bradass87: it might actually change something(1:13:10 PM) bradass87: i just... dont wish to be a part of it... at leastnot now... im not ready... i wouldn't mind going to prison for the rest ofmy life, or being executed so much, if it wasn't for the possibility ofhaving pictures of me... plastered all over the world press... as boy...(1:14:11 PM) bradass87: i've totally lost my mind... i make no sense...the CPU is not made for this motherboard...(1:14:42 PM) bradass87: s/as boy/as a boy(1:30:32 PM) bradass87: >sigh< (1:31:40 PM) bradass87: i just wanted enough time to figure myself out... to be myself... and be running around all the time, trying to meet someone else's expectations (1:32:01 PM) bradass87: *and not be (1:33:03 PM) bradass87: im just kind of drifting now... (1:34:11 PM) bradass87: waiting to redeploy to the US, be discharged... and figure out how on earth im going to transition (1:34:45 PM) bradass87: all while witnessing the world freak out as its most intimate secrets are revealed (1:35:06 PM) bradass87: its such an awkward place to be in, emotionally and psychologically (1:35:06 PM) Adrian : I have more messages than resourcesallocatable to action them. Please be very patient.(1:39:03 PM) bradass87: i cant believe what im confessing to you :'((1:40:20 PM) bradass87: ive been so isolated so long... i just wanted tobe nice, and live a normal life... but events kept forcing me to figureout ways to survive... smart enough to know whats going on, but helplessto do anything... no-one took any notice of me(1:40:43 PM) bradass87: :'((1:43:51 PM) Adrian: back(1:43:59 PM) bradass87: im self medicating like crazy when im not toilingin the supply office (my new location, since im being discharged, im notoffically intel anymore)(1:44:11 PM) bradass87: you missed a lot...(1:45:00 PM) Adrian: what kind of scandal?(1:45:16 PM) bradass87: hundreds of them(1:45:40 PM) Adrian: like what? I'm genuinely curious about details.(1:46:01 PM) bradass87: i dont know... theres so many... i dont have theoriginal material anymore(1:46:18 PM) bradass87: uhmm... the Holy See and its position on theVatican sex scandals(1:46:26 PM) Adrian: play it by ear(1:46:29 PM) bradass87: the broiling one in Germany(1:47:36 PM) bradass87: im sorry, there's so many... its impossible forany one human to read all quarter-million... and not feel overwhelmed...and possibly desensitized(1:48:20 PM) bradass87: the scope is so broad... and yet the depth so rich(1:48:50 PM) Adrian: give me some bona fides ... yanno? any specifics.(1:49:40 PM) bradass87: this one was a test: Classified cable from USEmbassy Reykjavik on Icesave dated 13 Jan 2010(1:50:30 PM) bradass87: the result of that one was that the icelandicambassador to the US was recalled, and fired(1:51:02 PM) bradass87: thats just one cable...(1:51:14 PM) Adrian: Anything unreleased?(1:51:25 PM) bradass87: i'd have to ask assange(1:51:53 PM) bradass87: i zerofilled the original(1:51:54 PM) Adrian: why do you answer to him?(1:52:29 PM) bradass87: i dont... i just want the material out there... idont want to be a part of it(1:52:54 PM) Adrian: i've been considering helping wikileaks with opsec(1:53:13 PM) bradass87: they have decent opsec... im obviously violating it(1:53:34 PM) bradass87: im a wreck(1:53:47 PM) bradass87: im a total fucking wreck right now
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brief bio on Lamo and Asperger's: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/lamo/
chat logs between Adrian and Manning:
Logs between Nadmin and Lamo's wife Laura, and Nadim and Lamo, as sent to WikiLeaks by NadimFollowing Adrian Lamo's recent exposure of Bradley Manning, I reveal chat logs with Lauren Lamo (Adrian Lamo's wife), incriminating him in many ways.These chat logs are dated. They are related to the recent Wired exclusive interview with Lamo, which, as you'll soon find out, was complete bullshit:APRIL 23 2010Nadim: I now have the capacity to leak Hackers WantedNadim: Letting you down on that front in the past's left a mark in my memoryNadim: I haven't forgotten =)Adrian: Why do you put up with me>? I´m often a jerk, arrogant, totally sure of my theories, and willing to crash and burn to make a point.Adrian: Make no mistake, you;re one of roughly fie people I trust.APRIL 29 2010Lauren: he is now at sacramento mental healthLauren: Nadim. He doesn't want to be talked to.Nadim: Why mental institutions?? Is it really that bad???Nadim: I'm shocked and hurtLauren: Yes.Lauren: You couldn't ever tell by the speech slurring, and the lack to follow through with things?Lauren: So many medications.Nadim: I haven't spoken vocally with him in a whileNadim: But yes, I confronted him about his lack of following up only last weekLauren: my love wasn't enough to get him to change, and i meant the world to him.Nadim: I thought he wasn't changing at all!Nadim: I thought he was simply distancing himself from me!Lauren: i made him want to change his life, nadim. and I don't just say this to boast or make myself seem more important.Nadim: And I said to myself I'd let him do it since he probably has more important things in his lifeNadim: He never ever mentioned drugsNadim: EverNadim: I kept asking him for months wtf was happeningNadim: Why he was getting so distant and hard to reachNadim: He was such a conversationalist when I first met him!Lauren: he is very very VERY private about his personal lfie.Lauren: life"Nadim: I trust him to beLauren: he has a persona, "Adrian Lamo" he thinks he must keep up.Nadim: I know about that.Nadim: God damn itNadim: Such a spiritNadim: It's just uglyNadim: Such a spirit to have a flaw so tragic and at the same time so meaninglessNadim: Why prescription drugs???Nadim: I understand the exact name of the drugs ought to be private info, but could you at least tell me what the drugs did?Nadim: I mean, were they painkillers? amphetamines? what?Lauren: It's hard to explain, he is very sensitive and in touch with every part of his body, down to the pulses in his brain and the nerve endings... the meds he takes he regulates it all but its just too much.Nadim: AhNadim: There were 2600 articles published about "hacking your brain" with certain "boosting" medicationsNadim: Is this related?Lauren: It has crippled him, into living like this, and without these meds, he can't function, or so he thinks.Lauren: I suppose.Lauren: The first and only time he ever stayed at my parents home in phoenix he stole a bunch of my mothers medication (one that he too happened to be taking normally) and gave us quite a scare in the morning.Nadim: Adrian doesn't trust people, but makes his entire functioning dependent on drugs?Nadim: I'm angry at him.Nadim: He could have so easily avoided such a trapLauren: so lackadaisical he was spilling his coffee all over himself burning his legs and falling over speaking nonsense.Nadim: What's his side of the story? He must have constructed many arguments in his defense.Lauren: It's been a long time coming.Nadim:
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