Official Gear Rumor Thread

13878420:tomPietrowski said:
Its as close as you can get really. Awesome walk and great power downhill. Why give up DH performance to get a few grams weight saving and possibly slightly better walk mode?

There are so many great boots in that category now that really unless BC skiing is about the uphill for you I find it hard to justify a true touring boot these days.
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Pretty sure the xtd weighs less than the hoji as well.

Peach....with a booster and an intuition for alpine it would be a very good inbounds boot. Stock liner is flimsy....but pretty light and good for touring. I wouldn't want to ski it inbounds all day though. Definitely would replace with an intuition for inbounds.
 
13878429:Profahoben_212 said:
Pretty sure the xtd weighs less than the hoji as well.

Peach....with a booster and an intuition for alpine it would be a very good inbounds boot. Stock liner is flimsy....but pretty light and good for touring. I wouldn't want to ski it inbounds all day though. Definitely would replace with an intuition for inbounds.
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Love my Roxa R3 TI 130 as well:) they’re great for smaller people. If you approach 175 pounds or higher I would kinda stray away.

Their basically Glen Plakes pro model haha.. he was the lead designer/tester on that boot.
 
13878429:Profahoben_212 said:
Pretty sure the xtd weighs less than the hoji as well.

Peach....with a booster and an intuition for alpine it would be a very good inbounds boot. Stock liner is flimsy....but pretty light and good for touring. I wouldn't want to ski it inbounds all day though. Definitely would replace with an intuition for inbounds.
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I'll have to get more time in them.

They're claiming a weight lower than that of my dedicated touring boot (Dynafit Beast Carbon) and I can speak from experience that they tour extremely well.
 
13878417:Peach. said:
I have. I'm a big fan, actually.

The pair I tried weren't mine to keep. If they were I feel confident that I could've solved some of the fit issues I was having and been reasonably happy in it for 90% of the skiing I do.

Edit caveat:

I haven't skied it in alpine bindings. Only Radicat FT's. I'm reluctant to believe it would have the same suspension and power transfer as my RX 130's in a pair of pivots only because of its reduced mass. But, I haven't had the chance to test it. So I have no evidence to back up that assumption.

I know Cy has spent some time in it for Blister. I'd be interested to hear his thoughts on wether or not we've reached the one-boot-quiver era yet.

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Yeah....

I mean, yes, and no. It's the closest thing I've found for sure, probably the closest thing on the market right now. I love the XTD, but it's not quite the same as a true alpine boot yet. Is it good enough for a lot of people? Yes. For sure. I've had a blast in mine on some pretty terrible inbounds crud days, but it doesn't have quite the damping and support of a good true inbounds boot. So if you feel like you really need the support and suspension of a race, you're never going to be able to get away with a one-boot quiver that doesn't compromise the uphill in my opinion. I just am not sure it's actually possible to make a boot that skis like that at the weight boots like the XTD or MTN Lab are hitting.

Also, when I say compromise on the uphill, I've skied boots like the K2 Pinnacle and Nordica strider, basically inbounds boots with tech inserts and a walk mode, and I love how they ski (those were my only inbounds boots last year) and I don't mind them on short tours, so if you're doing sled assisted stuff, side country, or short tours where the focus is on the down, you'll be fine with something like that. Otherwise, for big days in GTNP, or any BC tours where you're walking or skiing all day, the XTD is the best choice I've found so far.

And don't get me started on what I think the XTD / SHIFT combo could offer.....!
 
13878450:cydwhit said:
Yeah....

I mean, yes, and no. It's the closest thing I've found for sure, probably the closest thing on the market right now. I love the XTD, but it's not quite the same as a true alpine boot yet. Is it good enough for a lot of people? Yes. For sure. I've had a blast in mine on some pretty terrible inbounds crud days, but it doesn't have quite the damping and support of a good true inbounds boot. So if you feel like you really need the support and suspension of a race, you're never going to be able to get away with a one-boot quiver that doesn't compromise the uphill in my opinion. I just am not sure it's actually possible to make a boot that skis like that at the weight boots like the XTD or MTN Lab are hitting.

Also, when I say compromise on the uphill, I've skied boots like the K2 Pinnacle and Nordica strider, basically inbounds boots with tech inserts and a walk mode, and I love how they ski (those were my only inbounds boots last year) and I don't mind them on short tours, so if you're doing sled assisted stuff, side country, or short tours where the focus is on the down, you'll be fine with something like that. Otherwise, for big days in GTNP, or any BC tours where you're walking or skiing all day, the XTD is the best choice I've found so far.

And don't get me started on what I think the XTD / SHIFT combo could offer.....!
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Next years FT boot intrigues me. Stoked to hear how that is.
 
13878450:cydwhit said:
Yeah....

I mean, yes, and no. It's the closest thing I've found for sure, probably the closest thing on the market right now. I love the XTD, but it's not quite the same as a true alpine boot yet. Is it good enough for a lot of people? Yes. For sure. I've had a blast in mine on some pretty terrible inbounds crud days, but it doesn't have quite the damping and support of a good true inbounds boot. So if you feel like you really need the support and suspension of a race, you're never going to be able to get away with a one-boot quiver that doesn't compromise the uphill in my opinion. I just am not sure it's actually possible to make a boot that skis like that at the weight boots like the XTD or MTN Lab are hitting.

Also, when I say compromise on the uphill, I've skied boots like the K2 Pinnacle and Nordica strider, basically inbounds boots with tech inserts and a walk mode, and I love how they ski (those were my only inbounds boots last year) and I don't mind them on short tours, so if you're doing sled assisted stuff, side country, or short tours where the focus is on the down, you'll be fine with something like that. Otherwise, for big days in GTNP, or any BC tours where you're walking or skiing all day, the XTD is the best choice I've found so far.

And don't get me started on what I think the XTD / SHIFT combo could offer.....!
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Thanks for weighing in, Cy.
 
13878414:tomPietrowski said:
I think actually unless you are doing a load of multi day hut trips you should be ok with one boot to do it all. Who wants to buy twice if you dont have too? The Lupos, XTD and pinnacles of the boot world have meant the one boot to do it all is now a reality
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Complete disagreement. They are too heavy for a full day of touring and don’t ski near as well in the resort as a pinned boot. The Lupo is close, but defiantly on the heavy side for touring. XTD tours pretty damn well but can’t hold a candle to a true alpine boot on the down and the pinnacle manages to both ski and tour like complete shit! At least you can fix the horrendous flex pattern of the Spine with a grinder, drill and a couple of bolts.

Three boots (but easily can build a quiver of six or so)

Alpine boot

Freeride touring boot / travel boot - 1500g or so

Touring boot - 900-1100g

Having one boot to do everything is fine if you are also down with one pair of skis to do everything - you know that pair that is just OK at everything. IMO boots have a greater impact on your enjoyment of the sport than skis. Do you limit yourself to one pair of skis for: park, resort firm snow, soft snow, powder, deep snow touring, firm snow touring etc etc. if you don’t why would you want one pair of boots to do all that?
 
13878594:Profahoben_212 said:
I can't remember the name....but there is a 100ishmm version of the pescado coming out.
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I wonder if they're keeping the same core construction...

I know they've had durability issues with their "cloud core" on smaller skis in the past. Wish they could figure it out though. All I want to do is tour on a lighter Mordecai.
 
13878591:.[sanhedrin said:
.]New Pescado from Line?

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I think I saw this exact ski at Crested Butte last weekend. At first I thought it was a 4FRNT, but then I noticed the swallow tail. Figuring it was the new pescado. Looked like it was about 190cm long, but definitely wider than 100-ish.
 
Armada has some fun new skis in the zero collection next year. The JJ 2.0 is finally leaving the line up after being relevant for all these years.

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13878674:.nasty said:
Armada has some fun new skis in the zero collection next year. The JJ 2.0 is finally leaving the line up after being relevant for all these years.

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And yet all I see on the ski wall at my local shops are the new ARV JJs in all sizes not selling.
 
13878591:.[sanhedrin said:
.]New Pescado from Line?

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Nope. If you read the caption or the website, it's a limited edition Folsom custom ski for Trew, as part of their limited "PowFish" line. Includes blacked out outerwear and a couple other things.
 
13878694:.[sanhedrin said:
.]And yet all I see on the ski wall at my local shops are the new ARV JJs in all sizes not selling.
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Yeah the ARV JJ is not the same ski as the JJ 2.0 hahaha. As Mr. Cobra said, pow ski sales have been pretty damn low in this low tide year.
 
I respectfully disagree. No one knew this year would blow. Yet that ski remains on the wall. The jj’s sold to jerrys and pros alike. I will try to hoard a pair of the jj’s if what you say is true.
 
13878744:.[sanhedrin said:
.]I respectfully disagree. No one knew this year would blow. Yet that ski remains on the wall. The jj’s sold to jerrys and pros alike. I will try to hoard a pair of the jj’s if what you say is true.
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it is true. lol hoard away...
 
13878744:.[sanhedrin said:
.]I respectfully disagree. No one knew this year would blow. Yet that ski remains on the wall. The jj’s sold to jerrys and pros alike. I will try to hoard a pair of the jj’s if what you say is true.
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You are underestimating the sheer amount of people that buy their skis during the season. Majority of skiers don't sale hunt over the summer or do pre-order. Tons of skiers walk into a shop during the season and ask the worker what they should buy....they won't sell pow skis when 90% of the West is still seeing grass.
 
13878749:Profahoben_212 said:
You are underestimating the sheer amount of people that buy their skis during the season. Majority of skiers don't sale hunt over the summer or do pre-order. Tons of skiers walk into a shop during the season and ask the worker what they should buy....they won't sell pow skis when 90% of the West is still seeing grass.
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100% this.

If we're dry over Christmas it's hard to recover.
 
13878764:Peach. said:
100% this.

If we're dry over Christmas it's hard to recover.
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Yup. Even more so for shops actually in the mountain towns like the one I work at here in Breck. Denver is a different story but still has that same stagnant sales.
 
From my posts above ;)

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13879359:Peach. said:
Give us that full frontal. Don't be shy.
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I've got some blurry screenshots from my buddy who just got them....dont wanna ruin it for y'all. I'll see if I can get a decent photo from him;)
 
13879361:Profahoben_212 said:
I've got some blurry screenshots from my buddy who just got them....dont wanna ruin it for y'all. I'll see if I can get a decent photo from him;)
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Is it really a 100mm pescado? That'd be a sick spring ski.
 
13879763:.nasty said:
^theyre called the Sakana. 150-105-138. Coming in a 174cm and 181cm
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Yup....they are sick. Hopefully I'll see them in person in a few days here and I'll get a photo up.

They are gunna be my New touring rig for me next season is my plan
 
13879765:Profahoben_212 said:
Yup....they are sick. Hopefully I'll see them in person in a few days here and I'll get a photo up.

They are gunna be my New touring rig for me next season is my plan
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Shift + Sakana... there goes a significant chunk of my expected future earnings.
 
13879962:powpatrol said:
Atomic also just posted about their new vantage 107,looks like my type of ski.Seems like the new tech is some sort of rail type thing on the underside on the ski.Carbon?
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Titanium... (drools uncontrollably)
 
13879313:Profahoben_212 said:
From my posts above ;)

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Ugh... A 105mm Pescado, a 100mm Bent Chetler. What's next? My bank is not going to be happy next season!!!!

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Scott or Alpride comes with an electric airbag system?

Arcteryx comes with a super sexy and pricey ski strap..

Bdog skis have a dog on the topsheet..

Pieps/BD are trying to get a new or updated Jetforce system ready for next season but it is already delayed and their current stock is almost empty..

Marker will try to market the shit out of their Alpinist binding wich is simply the Kingpin toe piece combined with an oldskool U-shaped pin system and a flip heel riser thinghy.. I'm pretty shure they will not have a safety release update on the toes of the Kingpin and therefor everybody will buy the Salomon/Atomic Shift instead..
 
^yeah more Madsteez graphics for the whole ARV lineup. Plus a couple new ARV models are coming to the Zero collection, really stoked about those.
 
13881041:-eREKTion- said:
Speaking of graphics, anyone got a pic of the new Poachers?
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Not super high-res, but very clearly says Poacher
 
Anybody else catch Atomic and Chris’s Live streams today? Weight improvements and a couple changes to the chetler and the deets on the new chetler 100 were fuckin hype, really stoked to see how these ride.
 
13881103:Pataguccimane said:
Anybody else catch Atomic and Chris’s Live streams today? Weight improvements and a couple changes to the chetler and the deets on the new chetler 100 were fuckin hype, really stoked to see how these ride.
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Chetler 100 sounds rad
 
Hoping the chetler 100 is similar to the old atomic blog, looks like they're pretty flexible from keefer's ig
 
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