Obama openly supports gay marraige

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WASHINGTON -- In a nod to a dramatic shift in public opinion, Barack Obama on Wednesday became the first sitting president to announce his support for same-sex marriage.

In a sit-down interview with ABC's Robin Roberts, Obama completed what has been a markedly long and oft-mocked evolution on the matter.

"I've always been adamant that gay and lesbian Americans should be treated fairly," Obama told Roberts, in an interview that will air in full on ABC's "Good Morning America" Thursday.

(Watch ABC's entire clip below)

"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married," he said.

The statement constitutes an act of political bravery on the president's behalf, as well as a major victory for the gay rights community, which has been pushing him to declare his support for marriage equality for several years. With the issue back in the news this week, the pressure intensified.

On Sunday, Vice President Joseph Biden told NBC's "Meet The Press" that he was personally comfortable with same-sex marriage, which was followed the next day by Education Secretary Arne Duncan saying the same.

The White House insisted that there was no daylight between the vice president's position and the president's, noting that Biden clarified his statement as being in reference to civil rights for gay couples. But the explanation was largely dismissed by both supporters and critics as a convenient way for the president to signal support for marriage equality without having to declare it himself.

On Tuesday evening, the state of North Carolina passed an amendment that defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman. The president expressed his disappointment with the measure, but it remained difficult to square his opposition to a measure outlawing same-sex marriage with his opposition to same-sex marriage itself.

As the political pressure continued to mount, the president finally chose to speak out Wednesday, with the White House hastily scheduling a sit-down interview.

“It’s interesting, some of this is also generational,” the president said. “You know when I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same sex equality or, you know, believe in equality. They are much more comfortable with it. You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”

The president's support of same-sex marriage will have little political impact, from a practical standpoint, as much of the activity on the issue is currently occurring in the states and the courts. Already the Obama administration's Department of Justice has stopped defending the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which defines marriage as a legal union between a man and a woman. Legislation to overturn DOMA outright would likely be blocked by congressional Republicans.

The more promising path for same-sex marriage advocates remains a friendly hearing by the United States Supreme Court.

Still, the symbolism of Obama's remarks is hard to ignore. In becoming the first president to publicly support marriage equality, he sets the bar for its political acceptance. He also has the ability to shape public opinion further on the matter.

Of course, there may be drawbacks to such a strong expression of support. While recent polls show that popular support for marriage equality is gaining widespread acceptance, some pivotal swing states remain largely opposed to the concept. And one of them, North Carolina, remains a major target for the president's reelection campaign.

"The question is, is there a risk?" a prominent Democratic Party official who requested anonymity told The Huffington Post after Biden's remarks. "It is not nationwide [polling] we are talking about. We are talking about Virginia, North Carolina and other swing states. And we are talking about, would Karl Rove and his team stoop to using horribly grotesque and hateful tactics ... and would that peel off 10,000 votes?"

As of Wednesday, that question was hypothetical. Now, it's a critical component of the 2012 election.

cool story right?
 
Well he is pretty weak. Most people's convictions on the issue don't flip flop as often as his seems to do. I'm glad to see he finally grew a sack and made a firm public stance on gay marriage.
 
Well it's obviously an election move, but an important one at that. It will strengthen those who were wishy-washy on continuing supporting him, but it will hurt him with the conservative states.

50-50.
 
Just like he openly supported legalization of marijuana, supported ending the wars in the middle east, supported closing Guantanamo Bay, was against big-pharma, and supported the end of torture. Come on guys, politicians are crooks. It's an election year. They'll say anything you want to hear.
 
thats what I'm saying. Its about time. But now people are going to be freaking out and hating him even more
 
lol

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Fox can get away with this shit because they are listed as an Entertainment company, not a News Organization under the FCC. lol

 
against big pharmaceutical companies? that actually passed, sales reps for those companies are so utterly restricted now, they can't even leave a pen with their logo on it in a doctor's office without documenting it, nevermind the free vacations i used to get to go to... fucking feds.
 
Oh, I'm glad to see he stood by his guns and is restricting distribution of labeled pens and free vacations lol. No worries about virtual monopolies on life-saving medications, let's get those bastards where it really counts, their pens.
 
It's not that he didn't change those things. It's that he said all of those things and then reversed his positions once he was in office. He's a scumbag of the highest order, just like you'd expect any major presidential candidate to be.
 
true story. sup ny

to everyone saying its an election move, i sort of agree. you cant deny, its dangerous territory for a politician in his position. every state that supports gay marriage was going to vote for anyway, the problem is the swing states. will he gain or lose more voters in these "middle conservative" states?

just food for thought
 
America enters the 21st century in 2012; years behind other developed, "1st world" countries.



About time. Gay marriage needs to be a federal, not a state, issue.

Can't wait for all the religious people to start selectively quoting a 2,000 year old, non-factual book, written by men, to find "moral" arguments to further oppose Obama declaration of support for equal rights which is the basis of our Constitution.

I think many American's confuse the Bible and the Constitution...

 
this doesn't surprise me at all. Our country is essentially run by inbreds--The Kennedys and Vanderbilts like to interbreed in order to maintain the royal bloodline (these families are essentially American Royalty%2Pr
 
This is several years out of date.

Way to go Obama, you just brought an issue that could have sat in the background into a major party issue. And the likelihood of gay marriage becoming legal for other states went down...

 
Finally. It's beyond me why a lot of state legislatures and a lot of people are so against same sex couples getting married. If they want to, let them. If it's not impacting your daily life drastically, I don't see the problem. It's honestly the people against it that are the problem.
 
fox has claimed dems/obama have declaired a war on everythig, women, marriage, controseptives, the costitution...its getting a little rediculious i have no idea how people watch fox news without laughing, the only place to get some unbiased news...actaul news about whats happening in the world not jusy dem/rep bashing is the bbc or aljezeria the latter beong my personal favorite
 
thats what I thought. I really dont think it will help since I feel america is split about the whole gay rights argument right now.

Also there are bigger issues that need to be addressed in this presidential race then gay rights.

foreign policy being the biggest IMO.
 
Al Jazeera is just as bias to left not to say it isn't a good source but come on. And to be fair the Dems/Obama as you call it deffinatly coined the "war on women" crap
 
I completely agree its just pandering for votes it won't have any effect on policy and it's a distraction from the real issues are way more important like foreign policy as you said which Obama has no ground to stand on. I think this will be a theme in his reelection bid pandering for votes while dodging his record. People who may vote democrat need to take this into consideration, like JamesR said he said a lot the first time he ran and reversed himself on a lot of it or just conievently forgot he said it. Words don't mean shit
 
Equal rights is a real issue. It's the only important issue. If everyone has equal rights, there can be no government.
 
It's honestly difficult for me to look at this from a conservative point of view, I don't see the problem with same sex marriage other than the stupid "god hates gays" way of seeing it. And even that is an extremely weak argument, fucking douchebagels
 
I can only see this hurting him. I feel that the people who want same sex marriage could possibly have wanted to vote for him before this statement. Now he has only lost voters, and gained maybe a few.

Just my opinion.
 
Not really dangerous he had no chance at most of the people this bothers anyways frankly. He needs to do something or he's going to get destroyed.
 
dear quebecois, after your province's wide spread and rather silly demonstrations, you have lost your privileges to speak about any politics occurring in the area to your south. that is all.
 
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