Not another F Vail thread, but close.

Where do you think they could have done better? The actions taken by vail seems pretty reasonable to me

**This post was edited on Mar 29th 2020 at 11:29:44pm
 
The j1 situation is that grwat. Vail is working with them to some extent but they're loosely abandoned. I have a few j1 hooks ups that are still forever stuck in tahoe.

And vail sucks giant dicks. The moving HR to bullshit over the phone through broomfield? That's unforgivable.

Vail gets a lot of underserved hate. Especially in the past, but vail sucks hard and has made some shitty decisions in the past few years. Never working for rob and his katz again
 
Not spreading rumors but I heard from a buddy in Summit county that when they closed the resorts (on the 15th) employees started trashing the buildings.
 
14123617:B.Gillis said:
We just put 15+ J1 employees (all the ones we know about) in housing for free for the foreseeable future because they are stranded here. But yah I guess you can call that working with them loosely. Our employee housing is almost full and everyone is there for free because no one is working or getting paid.

Idk I'm just frustrated with vail as a company. They've been working harder to suck the soul out of skiing. Fuck rob and his cats and Vail in general.

And the place seems to be degrading. It's pretty obvious that vail doesn't hive a fuck about the individual even good ones. They don't pretend to. Vail looks at it like this is the job, this is how many people we need, this is what we pay. As long as they can, or think they can find more people fuck em.

Well nobody is irreplaceable, good employees with a decade plus of specific experience make a difference. Being established at the place, knowing the mtn, other employees, having cross training in other departments. Vail sees it as, the job is worth $x we can prolly find something like that. Whether a total rookie or just new to the resort. I don't expect rob or management in general to somehow have personal relationships with everyone but looking at everyone as replaceable statistics is a bad place to start.

Making people feel worthless doesn't exactly motivate them to bleed for their employers. Especially shitty in jobs where people are motivated by the job. Passionate as fuck, and Vail slowly kills that. It's not just Vail, but vail does it at a much higher rate.

Vail has some decent perks too. Happy to have 2 pair of scarpas for cheap ish , got some deals through experticity, the equipment at least in parks is decent(not including the lack of shop and shit show of trailers). That shit's wild too. Vail mid mtn. Departments permanently in fucking contruction trailers at Northstar. Wtf is that. And shitty ones that are probably a biohazard. And they don't even fucking own them. Renting them forever? They got rid of one of the storage containers. It was a little beat up and they got charged 2k. Thats the cost of buying one new. After renting it for a fucking decade. That's more a northstar thing than vail but wtf.

Place is shot. Glad I made it through another full season even though I was leaving before covid shut everyone down. Good enough it's in the books. Done with the pile of shit that is Vail though.

Sure I'm a little bitter, but that's on them more than me. If I stayed there I'd likely dip on the ski industry in general soon. That's not a great start to make employees give a fuck or get and keep competent people in general.
 
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