HuckNorris44
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Buddy of mine made a bunch of these to help pass the word around.
**This thread was edited on Feb 10th 2015 at 12:07:00pm
**This thread was edited on Feb 10th 2015 at 12:07:00pm
New Vail Bumper Stickers!
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Steezy_IN_KC
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try again?
HuckNorris44
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Sorry, I have no idea how to post a picture from instagram. Heres a link to the picture.
http://instagram.com/p/ygA1OTGeY1/?modal=true
Get at me if anyone wants to help spread the word.
http://instagram.com/p/ygA1OTGeY1/?modal=true
Get at me if anyone wants to help spread the word.
pretty big douche thing to stick on your car. Dont like Vail? dont ski there its simple. They are a large corporation and all about money just like any other company / mountain / person out there. Season pass apparently is still a hell of a deal. If you owned a mountain and could charge 159 a day why wouldnt you?
Blurst
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13328394:KravtZ said:
Because its exploitative and makes our sport even more inaccessible to the average person than it already is.
The more people involved with skiing the better, not because "it'll bring more money to the industry mannnnn" but because everyone in the world should have the right to experience something as amazing as we have the privilege of experiencing on a daily, weekly or monthly basis.
Holzsteezy*
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hmu
malonius_funk
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13328402:Blurst said:
Skiing is not intended for the average person. Sure, there are those that make it work, but as a whole skiing is made up of people who have enough time and money to spend it skiing rather than trying to improve their quality of life. You said it yourself; skiing is a privilege. Please don't tell me that if Vail didn't exist everybody would have the resources to be able to ski.
While I don't agree with Vail Resorts plan and their rules and regulations, I do think it is interesting that you say they make our sport "more inaccessible to the average person." You do realize that the Epic Pass gives access to 12+ resorts around the country for what, like $600? I may be wrong, but the $150 gapers and Texans pay for a lift ticket allows Vail to offer the Epic Pass for so cheap therefore allowing many people--who could not afford it otherwise--to be able to ski.
I think that you should think more critically about this issue instead of making a vague rebuttal to an argument.
malonius_funk
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Also, funny bumper sticker and good design.
californiagrown
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13328402:Blurst said:
You dumb motherfucker, the epic pass program is the ONLY thing in skiing that makes skiing available to the general public. Where else can you get season passes that cheap?
But let me guess, you are a core local who got yelled at by a yellow jacket.
Bloom.
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Don't like Vail? Then don't ski at any of their mountains. I dropped about $600 on an Epic Pass this year and guess what, I've skied Vail, Beaver Creek, Park City, Canyons, Breckenridge, Abasin, and Keystone. If anything, Vail Resorts has made skiing more terrain more accessible for me. I have no problem with that.
I would guess they have such a high ticket price to control the amount of people on the mountain. If the ticket price was low, there'd be a lot more people stealing your pow turns or cutting you off in the park, which I would doubt you would like either.
I'm tired of hearing people bitch about Vail Resorts.
I would guess they have such a high ticket price to control the amount of people on the mountain. If the ticket price was low, there'd be a lot more people stealing your pow turns or cutting you off in the park, which I would doubt you would like either.
I'm tired of hearing people bitch about Vail Resorts.
Blurst
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13328641:californiagrown said:
A $600 seasons pass does not make skiing anymore accessible to someone who has never done it before than a $150 lift ticket does. I'm talking people who have never even tried the sport before, people are not willing to shell out $600 for the potential of having a good experience. It certainly makes skiing many different mountains more accessible for someone who is already infatuated with snowsports, but in the end does that guy even want to go to ski Vail?
There is a ski hill that is five minutes from my house that costs $11 any day of the week. Wednesday nights its free for Women and Saturday nights its free for Men. That is accessibility for a ski hill, there are so many people who I see out there who would not be able to have fun skiing and snowboarding if it were not for one person who had an amazing idea of not exploiting the average person for the giant monetary benefit of a few who are involved with or own these massive resort conglomerations.
malonius_funk
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13328863:Blurst said:
where do you live? how big is you ski hill? is it a non-profit?
you can't compare 1 ski hill with Vail Resorts. I admire the fact that you want skiing to be accessible to everyone--so do I--but I don't think you're really understanding this very well.
californiagrown
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13328863:Blurst said:
Haha its $350 for a season pass to ALL the Vail owned resorts in Tahoe.
Skiing by its very nature has a high entry price: equipment and accessibility being the two biggest factors.
Taking a family of 4 beginners skiing for 1 day costs upwards of $400 even at a cheap hill. That's not remotely feasible for anyone in the lower middle class and below.
1 day does not allow people to get into the sport. A cheap seasons pass doesake it feasible.
You're just bitching because your spoiled ass cant afford to ski at a notoriously exclusive resort, but can afford it everywhere else.
fresh_prince
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how can I get some
How can i get like 10 of those.
i think the issue that no one is talking about is why would anyone actually "want" to ski vail. they have the longest lines, the people suck, they give u speeding tickets. i mean seriously good for them... charge more.... i dont give a shit.
I REALLY WANT SOME OF THOSE STICKERS
i think the issue that no one is talking about is why would anyone actually "want" to ski vail. they have the longest lines, the people suck, they give u speeding tickets. i mean seriously good for them... charge more.... i dont give a shit.
I REALLY WANT SOME OF THOSE STICKERS
dingus
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I was prepared to hate on this thread because I was expecting a pro-vail thread but I was happy to see more people hate vail. I live in Washington so me and my friends every spring break take a trip to Park City, last year it was $200 for 6 days of skiing, this year its gonna be $450. So I salute you for sticking up to a shitty company or whatever they call themselves.
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MKeller91
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If you are looking to learn how to ski why would you plan a trip to vail the busiest and most crowded. Name another resort/company where you can ski that munch terrain/different mountains for that price. my season pass to my shitty mountain in Arizona with 2 old 3 seater lifts cost $620. For 450 a season I can ski Breck keystone and A basin all of which are bigger and better resorts with significantly longer seasons. seams to me like Vail is making it way more accessible using rich texans to subsidize other mountains and the locals. there was talk of them buying Purgatory a few years ago and i was praying that they would we would have seen more terrain opened up and better lifts.
Emma_Watson
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13328689:BloomOuterwear said:
I guess now I'm tired of buying your bitch products.
T.L.
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13328689:BloomOuterwear said:
On point.
All VR wants is presales. They want money in the bank before they even spin a lift for the season and that's just smart business. They've structured everything to make presales the best way to buy. Having $160 dollar day tickets isn't saying "fuck you" to customers. It's saying "If you really wanted to ski cheap and often,you should have thought of that preseason like everyone else living in the 21st century."
I don't really feel bad for idiots buying tickets day-of at all. As far as I'm concerned that the mark up should be considered an inconvenience fee for having to staff a ticket window with a human.
Concert tickets, festival tickets, sports tickets, movie tickets... all prepurchased online. It's 2015.. people need to get their heads in the game.
californiagrown
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Ive never had anything but great experiences at my Vail owned mountain. Cheap season pass, the chairlifts have consistent power now, gnarly terrain, salt-dog patrollers, and yellow jackets who once told me "sometimes it;s better to ask forgivness than it is permission". The small resort vibe is still there, and the employees are stoked that the place isnt a total managerial CF.
Why does everyone hate Vail so much? Maybe your mountain was an overly safe, corporate, touristy place anyways- i mean, isnt that Vail Corp's M.O. when buying resorts?
Why does everyone hate Vail so much? Maybe your mountain was an overly safe, corporate, touristy place anyways- i mean, isnt that Vail Corp's M.O. when buying resorts?
HuckNorris44
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For anyone looking for some stickers, PM me with a mailing address and a reasonable number of how many you want. I'll see how many more i need to get made and a time frame of how long it will take (probably a couple days or so). They're going for 2 dollars but if i can make a large run the price goes down.
Haha this is great. I wouldn't put one on my car but my laptop for sure.
I kind of agree with bloom. If you aren't skiing there it's not really a problem to you. If I were a local season pass holder out in colorado Id actually be pretty stoked on being able to go to so many mountains. Hell when I went to colorado this january I was able to ride at all those mountains and it was awesome. Well worth the money to me. The pass is chill.
I kind of agree with bloom. If you aren't skiing there it's not really a problem to you. If I were a local season pass holder out in colorado Id actually be pretty stoked on being able to go to so many mountains. Hell when I went to colorado this january I was able to ride at all those mountains and it was awesome. Well worth the money to me. The pass is chill.
Steezy_Peazy
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I want one. I have never skied Fail (Vail) and have no opinion on Vail's operation.
But I am 12 and love swearing and putting profanities all over my stuff. Yay! Fuck!
Seriously you time would have been better used writing a petition or violently invading and pillaging and trashing their corporate offices.
But I am 12 and love swearing and putting profanities all over my stuff. Yay! Fuck!
Seriously you time would have been better used writing a petition or violently invading and pillaging and trashing their corporate offices.
Blurst
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13328874:malonius_funk said:
What am I not understanding here?
Its no secret that there are people sitting at the top of Vail corp, or whatever the fuck its called, who are just raking in millions of dollars while they are laughing at the guys who are actually paying $160 for a day ticket and then not even thinking about the people they are leaving out of this sport that they claim they "love so much".
13328888:californiagrown said:
Like I stated before, I'm not trying to "get people into the sport" I just want people to be able to experience skiing for at least one day. Im not making an argument that Vail's high lift ticket prices are keeping consistent money out of the ski world, I'm just saying its bullshit they are charging that much for no other reason than profit.
And I'm not even going to address your last statement because its fucking stupid and you and I both know that.
.Hugo.
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13329863:Blurst said:
Its not like vail is the only resort with high single day ticket prices. online prices of a few resorts:
Vail 145
Copper 128
jackson 121
Steamboat 139
Whistler 119
Whats more outrageous than vails prices is that some mountains out east charge near or above 100
malonius_funk
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13329863:Blurst said:
You're not understanding the simple fact that it takes a lot more money to run Vail Resorts than to run 1 tiny ski hill. It's pretty simple really. You're also making lofty assumptions about those who run Vail Resorts. While I probably wouldn't disagree with you I wouldn't go as far to say that they are "laughing" at their customers. Your argument has no rational thought to it; its comprised of thoughts you have made up in your head that have no backing. Also, you know that when you put a phrase in quotations it is implied that whoever you are talking about said it. Show me where Vail said "love so much" so I can confirm you didn't just make that up too in order to back up your already made up argument.
Seriously, I don't agree with Vail Resorts; I've said that before and I'll say that again. But in order to have a valid argument you need to get rid of your fake quotes and assumptions and show that you did some critical thinking.
Also, take a basic economics course.
Blurst
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13329908:malonius_funk said:
I realize that it takes a hell of a lot more money to run a massive resort like Vail than it does to run a three lift operation like the one that I'm talking about, but I truly believe that it is fair to assume that to operate with a healthy profit for the resort and its parent company, it doesnt need to charge $160 a day for lift tickets. I think that is something that can be universally agreed upon.
Also what does me taking a basic economics course have to do with this argument? I have taken basic economics courses, I've also taken advanced economics courses. Just because I have a different view of how the world should operate doesn't mean that I'm uninformed.
Troy.
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13329907:.Hugo. said:
Vail set the precedent that allowed Copper, Jackson, Steamboat, and Whistler to set those prices. They weren't that high until Vail bumped theirs up, the other 4 saw that people were still buying Vail day passes and then followed suit.
Vail sets what the industry standard is, considering that they have a monopoly over CO skiing. When they do something, other big name resorts almost have to follow along.
ianrich511
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When I saw this thread my first response was fuck Vail. Then I saw the sticker. Nice. And this guy is right ^^^, Vail is forcing other companies to raise their price.
ianrich511
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When I saw this thread my first response was fuck Vail. Then I saw the sticker. Nice. And this guy is right ^^^, Vail is forcing other companies to raise their price.
malonius_funk
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13329935:Blurst said:
If you just look at a basic demand curve it shows that an increase in quantity leads to an increase in price. Seems to me that there are a fuck ton of people skiing nowadays; just look at the outrageous lift lines and how crowded Vail's resorts are. Therefore, they are going to charge however much the market allows them to. To say that Vail is making skiing inaccessible is wrong. To say that their intentions behind owning and developing mountains is misguided is, IMO, wrong as well. I get that they do not carry the soul of skiing, but come on man, you can't say they are making skiing any less accessible. You may have a different view of how the world should operate but your view is delusional; the way you want the world to operate is not how the world actually operates.
To sum things up: I agree that Vail has no soul but I disagree that they are making skiing less accessible. Wouldn't it be nice if giant corporations could operate like mom and pop ski hills? Of course, but that's just not how it works. There's a reason they have grown into the corporation they are; it didn't just "happen."
Blurst
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13329966:malonius_funk said:
I totally agree that my view is delusional. I'm not an idiot, I understand that Vail is going to continue operating in a way that maximizes their profits while not giving back to the world of skiing but that doesn't mean that I am not allowed to voice my criticisms of a system that I see as very broken and misguided.
At some point we are going to have to stop accepting things on the basis of "that's just not how it works" (I used quotation marks properly that time) because if we forever just subordinate ourselves to that idea skiing will truly become something for only the incredibly affluent.
Rasta Stevie had it figured out
malonius_funk
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13329982:Blurst said:
Did I ever say you weren't allowed to voice your criticisms? This is a forum; an open discussion. I understand that. And did I ever say that I wasn't trying to change things? There's a reason (actually there's many) I ski at Bridger Bowl and there's a reason I buy a pass there every year. There's also many reasons I don't ski at Vail Resorts as well. You're putting words in my mouth and I don't like it!
Congratulations on using quotation marks properly.
SpeaksInMemes
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musclehamster
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yellow jackets are gapers
