New cast coming

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Hoping that:

-The posts stop getting loose on big soft skis.

-Would like the post location and perpendicular-ness to be less sensitive to my shitty three-beers-deep pattern mount job.
 
14575324:No-Skill-Phil said:
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Hoping that:

-The posts stop getting loose on big soft skis.

-Would like the post location and perpendicular-ness to be less sensitive to my shitty three-beers-deep pattern mount job.
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Assuming the main issues have been rectified considering this will be the big update. Happy to see it looks like the purple toe is back
 
different forward pressure arms, more room between the finger crusher and the baseplate, some other things too.
 
I bet it’ll be easier to remove the toe and maybe better climbing bails and brake retention. I don’t think they can shed too much on the weight, though. Unless you could remove the heel, then it’d be the lightest touring setup on the market.
 
14575473:elm. said:
I bet it’ll be easier to remove the toe and maybe better climbing bails and brake retention. I don’t think they can shed too much on the weight, though. Unless you could remove the heel, then it’d be the lightest touring setup on the market.
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It would be a big pain in the ass, but if you really wanted to get the weight down you could use inserts on the heels
 
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Looks like the same/similar brake retainer and climbing bails. They've always worked well enough for me, despite being a bit primitive.
 
Played around with the new Cast at last year’s Blister Summit. Definitely looks like an improvement over an already solid product.
 
14575445:PartyBullshiit said:
Spy shot. Notice the different shape head and the new base plate. This is not the current pivot toe available
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I think thats the updated cast baseplate. The new 2.0 only has changes to the heel
 
Fitness goal for this year is to be faster in my cast on heavy ass skis wearing baggy track pants than all the aging skimo nerds are on their lightweight setups in skin tight spandex.

tryna dish out midlife crises ya feel
 
14576171:BallClapper said:
Will they work on the current gen of 15's?
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Would think they’d work with all 15/18 pivots. Too large a market to cut out.

**This post was edited on Dec 28th 2023 at 10:18:32pm
 
14575844:AlmostCooler said:
Fitness goal for this year is to be faster in my cast on heavy ass skis wearing baggy track pants than all the aging skimo nerds are on their lightweight setups in skin tight spandex.

tryna dish out midlife crises ya feel
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passing gear obsessed dorks who hopped out of a tesla in skimo suits and carbon everything with my heavy janky touring setup really inflates the ego. Nothing better than flexing my coreness on people who are just there to skin up and pizza down
 
14576404:drifts said:
passing gear obsessed dorks who hopped out of a tesla in skimo suits and carbon everything with my heavy janky touring setup really inflates the ego. Nothing better than flexing my coreness on people who are just there to skin up and pizza down
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uh sir i got my pole alignment from https://skimo.co/ please get off my skin track
 
14577984:elm. said:
Looks easier to get the toe on and off. Less error on mounting it. Is the brake pad different on the heel? Hopefully it will retain the brakes better
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They did change the brake lock just a bit to help lock the brake sturdier. The whole system is going be sold as a whole binding now, so no more upgrading an existing binding. Not sure what that means for buying spare parts or piecing things together yet though. The whole thing is much more bomber than it already was that way, and all AFD configurations will be including in the box. All retailers are getting one set this winter until the official launch next winter. Not sure what we're going to do with our yet!
 
14578390:.nasty said:
They did change the brake lock just a bit to help lock the brake sturdier. The whole system is going be sold as a whole binding now, so no more upgrading an existing binding. Not sure what that means for buying spare parts or piecing things together yet though. The whole thing is much more bomber than it already was that way, and all AFD configurations will be including in the box. All retailers are getting one set this winter until the official launch next winter. Not sure what we're going to do with our yet!
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No longer upgradable? That’s going to jump the cost a lot. I gotta buy an upgrade kit now then.
 
14578390:.nasty said:
The whole system is going be sold as a whole binding now, so no more upgrading an existing binding. Not sure what that means for buying spare parts or piecing things together yet though.
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Yikes thats bad news. I was considering upgrading when they drop but they cant make me pay full retail for pivots
 
14578390:.nasty said:
The whole system is going be sold as a whole binding now, so no more upgrading an existing binding. Not sure what that means for buying spare parts or piecing things together yet though.
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That's disappointing.
 
14578475:jca said:
That's disappointing.
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Very disappointing. Not having to buy an entire binding at retail is why I got cast and not duke pt or shifts when I wanted to have a second set of skis that could be used to skin
 
It's possible that there will still be some way to simply upgrade, but that's not how it sounds in the info I've received. So we'll see, don't go down to rabbit hole yet!
 
14578498:drifts said:
Very disappointing. Not having to buy an entire binding at retail is why I got cast and not duke pt or shifts when I wanted to have a second set of skis that could be used to skin
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Same. Time for a second ski kit or two of the current gen.
 
14579124:PartyBullshiit said:
Better hunt them down. Everyone is oos
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Good thinking. A few kicking around in the CO area. My first season on cast and was just thinking it would be nice to get a second ski kit in the future for my dw112. I guess the future is now. Or the future is dwt.
 
Cast supposedly confirmed the upgrade kits WILL be available to customers direct from cast.

shops will only have access to full kits for install.
 
well, IDK. Looks like the mount will be less accuracy demanding, that's good. At the same time, I don't see how this version of CAST solves any other previous version issues.
 
14580648:N41v131355 said:
well, IDK. Looks like the mount will be less accuracy demanding, that's good. At the same time, I don't see how this version of CAST solves any other previous version issues.
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Because the toe piece no longer has to hope all 4 posts are perfect. Now it’s all controlled by the single plate. One plate is easier than 4 posts
 
14580655:PartyBullshiit said:
Because the toe piece no longer has to hope all 4 posts are perfect. Now it’s all controlled by the single plate. One plate is easier than 4 posts
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yeah, I that's clear, and that's definitely a plus! But these side-threads for moving toe pieces on and off... well, I guess it should work better then CAST 1.0. I had awfull experience with it. Plus I remember everyone complained about how these toe baseplates developed play.
 
14580658:N41v131355 said:
yeah, I that's clear, and that's definitely a plus! But these side-threads for moving toe pieces on and off... well, I guess it should work better then CAST 1.0. I had awfull experience with it. Plus I remember everyone complained about how these toe baseplates developed play.
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Ya all cons of the 1.0 for sure. Which all the improvements for the 2.0 were essentially to get rid of all those issues. Only time will tell but my understanding is they’re been testing for a while now.

I’m very excited to throw a set on my ghost trains. I’m only doing the upgrade kit though as I already have pivots mounted.

though I love the whole purple set.
 
I did quiver killers on a couple pairs and i was able to adjust the posts so that the toe piece always worked

the new ones seem like a solid improvement. I don’t see any difference in weight from the old ones
 
14580655:PartyBullshiit said:
Because the toe piece no longer has to hope all 4 posts are perfect. Now it’s all controlled by the single plate. One plate is easier than 4 posts
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I think the biggest problem with the 1.0 is they didn't design it to be mounted by shitty ski techs haha. The screw towers for the toe weren't an issue if you actually know what you're doing, which fair enough to say that instructions to do it perfectly weren't really included but I think Cast assumed more mechanically inclined techs were mounting them.
 
14581154:elm. said:
I did quiver killers on a couple pairs and i was able to adjust the posts so that the toe piece always worked

the new ones seem like a solid improvement. I don’t see any difference in weight from the old ones
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Are quiver killers a viable option to use one set of bindings across skis? How long does the swap take?

edit: (Does the install count as a "mount?")

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14581154:elm. said:
I did quiver killers on a couple pairs and i was able to adjust the posts so that the toe piece always worked

the new ones seem like a solid improvement. I don’t see any difference in weight from the old ones
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The toes are lighter. 242g per pair is what it sounds like, straight from Lars on instagram. Pretty impressive to shave that much weight.
 
14581229:BallClapper said:
Are quiver killers a viable option to use one set of bindings across skis? How long does the swap take?

edit: (Does the install count as a "mount?")

**This post was edited on Jan 17th 2024 at 10:12:42am
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yes, they are. I have 2 bindings across 5 skis, swap is usually around 5 minutes
 
14581229:BallClapper said:
Are quiver killers a viable option to use one set of bindings across skis? How long does the swap take?

edit: (Does the install count as a "mount?")

**This post was edited on Jan 17th 2024 at 10:12:42am
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It depends how you value time vs. $. It realistically takes me 15 minutes to swap, but i loctite everything. Pivots are tricky because of the brake and half moons.

i wouldn’t do it again unless i had a massive ski collection.

the install is a mount and it will take up more space than a regular mount because the diameter of the quiver killer is bigger than a screw
 
14581463:elm. said:
It depends how you value time vs. $. It realistically takes me 15 minutes to swap, but i loctite everything. Pivots are tricky because of the brake and half moons.

i wouldn’t do it again unless i had a massive ski collection.

the install is a mount and it will take up more space than a regular mount because the diameter of the quiver killer is bigger than a screw
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Can they be put in pre existing holes?
 
Got em mounted yesterday. Toe is satisfyingly easy to mount/use. Brake retainer looks updated but I need more time to see how well it works. All purple pivots is kind of a flex. Didn't want them but they were sold out of the upgrade kit so I was like welp
 
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