well it is great for people that dont know how to ride and just want to hit rails but as far as for pipe or even jumps for that matter the camber is where a lot of your pop comes from (pipe especially, the camber can act like a spring off the walls). also the banna tech has no place on the ice coast sir, with out the camber to side cut ballance you cannot lay out hard carves on hard pack or ice. ( and for the pipe agrument a little more you cant use edge control to maintain spped through the flat) and my personal opinion the banana tech was made for kids so they dont actually have to learn to ride to seem good. but hey thats just me