there's that then there's the flat down everyon loves and the flat down everyone hates. then there's a c box and a downflat down then a down flat (tell me if I'm wrong on that one). then a box and a flat that's pretty long and lot's of ppl die on it. jumps: there's a 20ish footer after the 2 c boxs and the flat down flat (the one you were mentioning), then a twin kicker (40ish ?) then the massive 50footer. been there on the 7th though so kinda old news