Never Wet on Skis? Has anyone tried this?

throwin_steeze

throwin_steeze

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So i just recently found out about "Never-wet" A product made by rustoleum. Apparently its a coating you can spray on to anything, and it literally repels water 100%. You can spray it on your shirt, and nothing will ever stick to it...no food, no stains, no water. You can spray it on your car, and it will never get wet. You can spray it on your phone and create a completely 100% waterproof phone. The applications are endless. And you can buy this stuff at your local home-depot...or so ive heard! Guess its around 20 bucks! So....my question to you ns is has anyone sprayed this stuff on your skis? Would it work or would it just come off after a run or two? If this stuff actually could work on skis...Were talking endless speed theoretically! Ive posted the product vid too...(+K for embed.) This seriously looks like a game changer...Thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrjXSsfxMQ

 
From what I've heard, the stuff rubs off really easily. Not a viable solution for much of anything yet
 
only problem is that the base of skis are like long micro channels, they take the water from the snow and make it flow down the length of the ski. IDK how that would work with a coating of this stuff on it
 
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I sprayed it on my shoes and even though it works very well, I had to respray every two weeks because it would wear off when I wore them
 
While epic for some applications, it rubs off super easily and really doesn't work on clothes for any extended period of time. This leads me to believe it'd rub off the bottom of your skis in no time
 
i mean if you're racing, you'd only potentially need it for one run...but this is ns, and racing is for squares
 
ok, so lets think about this in an absolutely ideal sense, where this product works perfectly as advertised.

if your skis are 100% repellent to liquid water, what are you sliding on?

Water is an interesting element because it's both a lubricant AND an adhesive. When you're skiing, your skis are really sliding over a very very very very thin layer of water (melted snow from the friction of your ski moving over the surface- i mean like really really really tiny amounts of liquid water, but liquid nonetheless). This is why, when you take your skis off and pick them up at then end of a run, it's very likely to be at least a tiny bit damp on the bottom.

in the sense of being an adhesive, the more surface area that is on the bottom of your ski for water to interact with, the slower you are going to go. This is why we wax skis- not because of any incredible speed properties that wax has, but because of the nature of a PTEX base- PTEX is a plastic polymer that is filled with tiny little air holes when solid. it's not smooth.-> without wax to fill these holes, all they do is create a LOT of surface for water to interact with and slow your progression. a well waxed ski has the MINIMAL amount of surface area available for water to adhere to.

(this is why you tend to go slower in slushy wet snow too, there's more water slowing you down in the snow. you go faster on rock hard ice, because its a lot harder to friction melt it to liquid water)

I'm not a physicist or an engineer, and I don't work in materials science- this is just the way that I was taught skis work from working in a tech shop for a few years.

so, ideal sense: Liquid Water is 100% repelled. you do not move all that much, because you aren't generating lubricant to slide down the slope on.

less than idea sense- the shit wipes off in a few seconds, because there's nothing in it that helps it adhere to PTEX, and you move like normal. no better, no worse.

 
I made a thread about this the other day, sadly gear talk doesn't get much love, but there is some pretty good stuff in here.

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/764495/
 
False in the video on how to after bang tom wallisch states that when you fall fall in the afterbang position to add steez to your falls
 
This is interesting cause when they spray it on some cookie sheet in the video it's really just gravity making it the liquid flow to the lowest point, so wouldn't it be possible to have the skis slide the same way: just gravity making the ski slide downwards as a result of the repellent layer of never wet and the wet snow? Anyway it would be cool if someone could test it
 
im gonna spray the bottom of my boots/bindings so i can hike without wiping the snow off all my shit each time. pain in the ass
 
Fairly skeptical on it working to keep the ice and snow off, it should work on water droplets but what if it freeZes right away? Will it stick to the surface like normal
 
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