NASA UFO footage from 1996
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KarmaInitiative
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im guessing that if we found ufos 13 years ago it would be a bigger deal than this
yourthemannowdog
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good find, i don't believe, i keep an open mind to the very real posibilities that UFO are real. There are Trillions and trillions of stars out there, some have satelites that can produce life, the question is: is it sofisticated enough to find the sun and find earth. We aren't the only life holding satelite. The moon of titan(i forgot what planet) is capable of life, but we don't know for sure.
ONTerriible
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titan i believe is one of Saturn's moons. and they believe that the surface is covered in ice and theat below that ice there may be liquid water so the possibility of life there is quite high
ski@jaypeak2
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Yeah im with you i didnt watch the video because im at work with no sound but we live on the outer reaches of our galaxy, in one of billions of galaxies. It is very naive to think we are the only intelligent life. However it also makes the odds of that life finding us a little rediculous.
twin-tip-hero
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my brain is fried after trying to watch and understand that video
feihlination
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as long as einsteins right, noone will find us because theyre too slow
can someone help me, theres this thing of duality of waves and particles, right? so waves can travel at lightspeed and even 100 times faster in modern experiments. but if there is this duality that nothing really can be considered either a particle OR a wave because its both, than why particles cant travel at lightspeed?
can someone help me, theres this thing of duality of waves and particles, right? so waves can travel at lightspeed and even 100 times faster in modern experiments. but if there is this duality that nothing really can be considered either a particle OR a wave because its both, than why particles cant travel at lightspeed?
thats kind of the most important part.
that long string in the middle is a 12 mile long tether that snapped of our space shuttle. at the start of the video its 77miles from the camera.
if you pay attention some of the orbs floating around it actually go behind the tether. which means they are further away from the shuttle than the tether. since we know how long the tether is, (and that the floating orbs are not inches in front of the camera (like NASA claims, they said ice particles))
we can estimate how large they are. if you look the bigger ones seem to have a diameter of 1/6 to 1/5 of the lenght of the tether. so they estimated theyre a minimum of 2 miles long.
obviously if they are much further than the tether they would be even bigger.
think of it as in baseball. if you see a hooking flyball disappear behind the foul pole (watching from home plate) you know that the ball is past the pole, if you see the ball the whole time its in front
that long string in the middle is a 12 mile long tether that snapped of our space shuttle. at the start of the video its 77miles from the camera.
if you pay attention some of the orbs floating around it actually go behind the tether. which means they are further away from the shuttle than the tether. since we know how long the tether is, (and that the floating orbs are not inches in front of the camera (like NASA claims, they said ice particles))
we can estimate how large they are. if you look the bigger ones seem to have a diameter of 1/6 to 1/5 of the lenght of the tether. so they estimated theyre a minimum of 2 miles long.
obviously if they are much further than the tether they would be even bigger.
think of it as in baseball. if you see a hooking flyball disappear behind the foul pole (watching from home plate) you know that the ball is past the pole, if you see the ball the whole time its in front
ATLskier
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i dont know about titan, but that describes Europa, one of Jupiter's moons.
For all of you that dont beleive in ufo's, you are stupid. There have been many ufo's in history. Unidentified Flying Objects. Whether they are alien spacecraft or not, I dont know. But there have been tons of sightings of objects that havent been identified.
For all of you that dont beleive in ufo's, you are stupid. There have been many ufo's in history. Unidentified Flying Objects. Whether they are alien spacecraft or not, I dont know. But there have been tons of sightings of objects that havent been identified.
physics has come up with a lot of new things recently, such as there not being just more than three dimensions, but infinite.
you dont need to travel at the speed of light, many physicists believe that there are wormholes in space, that actually bends the space time continuum. I cant remember the guys name off the bat (he is on the history and discovery all the time, asian dude, long hair) but think of it as a piece of paper and draw a dot at one end and one more at the other. typically you would think to draw a line between the two to get from one place to another. Thats the typical thinking, traveling along the space time continuum, at 1mph or at lightspeed.
but if you bend the paper into a funnel or loop and overlap the two dots you can travel instantaneously.
plus this guy already claims to have broken the speed of light
you dont need to travel at the speed of light, many physicists believe that there are wormholes in space, that actually bends the space time continuum. I cant remember the guys name off the bat (he is on the history and discovery all the time, asian dude, long hair) but think of it as a piece of paper and draw a dot at one end and one more at the other. typically you would think to draw a line between the two to get from one place to another. Thats the typical thinking, traveling along the space time continuum, at 1mph or at lightspeed.
but if you bend the paper into a funnel or loop and overlap the two dots you can travel instantaneously.
plus this guy already claims to have broken the speed of light
OhMyBosh
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To actually believe that aliens, with technology millions of years more advanced than ours, are visting earth, getting caught on a grainy poor quality video tape and/or making a few circles in some crops (that could coincidentally also be made by a guy and a plank of wood), and not making any other contact with us is absurd and frankly, just stupid.
Im sure theres life out there in the universe... but if it had every come into contact with our planet, we'd know about it.... and the government most definitely would not be able to cover an event of that magnitude up
Its fun to believe this stuff, but the bottom line is that its just bullshit, and thinking otherwise is about as intelligent as thinking the world will end in 2012.
Im sure theres life out there in the universe... but if it had every come into contact with our planet, we'd know about it.... and the government most definitely would not be able to cover an event of that magnitude up
Its fun to believe this stuff, but the bottom line is that its just bullshit, and thinking otherwise is about as intelligent as thinking the world will end in 2012.
feihlination
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so far so good, but if its possible for humans (obviously) to accelerate light (particles) so it reaches light speed than it also should theoretically be possible to accelarte a space shuttle to light speed.
what i wanna ask is, if a particle doesnt need infinite amounts of energy to reach lightspeed, why does a fat ass particle shaped like a white cone with a black nose and small white wings require INFINITE AMOUNTS OF ENERGY (something that obviously cant be provided)? i could understand that it should require more energy than the sun emits in one year but infinite?
what i wanna ask is, if a particle doesnt need infinite amounts of energy to reach lightspeed, why does a fat ass particle shaped like a white cone with a black nose and small white wings require INFINITE AMOUNTS OF ENERGY (something that obviously cant be provided)? i could understand that it should require more energy than the sun emits in one year but infinite?
it must feel great to think that we would definitely be the best race of beings out there. like other beings couldnt come up with ways to detect planets that are suitable for life, or say massive amounts of energy being released like nuclear bombs.
if there really are other beings out there, lets say only a million years more advanced than us (lets face it a million years in the grand scheme of things is virtually nothing) you really dont think its at all possible for them to detect us. ignorence is bliss.
look how far we have came just in the last 100 years, we went from not being able to create a plane that flies to landing rovers on mars. give us a million years at the rate our technology is growing and where do you think we will be. (assuming we dont destroy ourselves and the planet)
take and ipod back in time to 1850 and there is no way they would believe humans created it
if there really are other beings out there, lets say only a million years more advanced than us (lets face it a million years in the grand scheme of things is virtually nothing) you really dont think its at all possible for them to detect us. ignorence is bliss.
look how far we have came just in the last 100 years, we went from not being able to create a plane that flies to landing rovers on mars. give us a million years at the rate our technology is growing and where do you think we will be. (assuming we dont destroy ourselves and the planet)
take and ipod back in time to 1850 and there is no way they would believe humans created it
feihlination
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1. i agree with you that they wont be dumb enough to let them be caught on some fucked up tape in case they dont want to
2. it could be possible, that theyre only looking at us like in a universal zoo. maybe its the newest shit on THSAHDSKJKLRJ230000, to observe other cultures on other planets
3. if a civilisation makes it to this point (always taking ours as example) to travel at lightspeed+X, they normally would have to be peacefull, because otherwise they killed themselves already and be intelligent enough to know that they cant bring us theyre technology because we would abuse it
but altogether i dont think we have ever been visited, maybe it was some kind of orbiter, satellite that was send to us, but no "people"
2. it could be possible, that theyre only looking at us like in a universal zoo. maybe its the newest shit on THSAHDSKJKLRJ230000, to observe other cultures on other planets
3. if a civilisation makes it to this point (always taking ours as example) to travel at lightspeed+X, they normally would have to be peacefull, because otherwise they killed themselves already and be intelligent enough to know that they cant bring us theyre technology because we would abuse it
but altogether i dont think we have ever been visited, maybe it was some kind of orbiter, satellite that was send to us, but no "people"
Schwags
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I remember learning about this back in highschool. THis seems to fit the description of what were seeing.
"There has been much speculation that any life on Jupiter, or on other gas giants, might be ammonia-based life. The possibility of "abundant biota" in the upper regions of Jupiter's atmosphere was considered in a 1976 paper by Carl Sagan and Edwin E. Salpeter1, three years after the fly-by of the first Jupiter probe, Pioneer 10. Sagan and Salpeter compared the ecology of the Jovian atmosphere with that of terrestrial seas which have simple photosynthetic plankton
at the top level, fish at lower levels feeding on these creatures, and
marine predators which hunt the fish. The three hypothetical Jovian
equivalents of these organisms, Sagan and Salpeter termed "sinkers",
"floaters", and "hunters". They envisaged creatures like giant gas-bags
(see bubble life) that move by pumping out helium and calculated that the "hunter" variety might grow to be many kilometers across (and therefore visible from space).
Jovian aerial life-forms like those described by Sagan and Salpeter are portrayed in Arthur C. Clarke's short story "A Meeting with Medusa" (in The Wind From the Sun). Ben Bova refers in his novel Jupiter to
"[H]uge
balloonlike creatures called Clarke's Medusas that drifted in the
hurricane-like winds surging across the planet. Birds that have never
seen land, living out their entire lives aloft. Gossamer spider-kites
that trapped microscopic spores. Particles of long-chain carbon
molecules that form in the clouds and sift downward, toward the global
ocean below."
Bova speculates
further that, in the high-pressure, liquid hydrogen ocean that lies
below Jupiter's thick atmosphere, are colossal, city-sized creatures
with intelligence. He follows the exploits of one of these sentient
giants – Leviathan: Predators
swarmed through Leviathan's ocean: swift voracious Darters that struck
at Leviathan's kind and devoured their outer members.
In recent years,
astrobiological interest in the jovian system has shifted from Jupiter
itself to its larger moons, especially Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto. Read also about the possibilities for life on Mars, Venus, and for extraterrestrial life in general."
"There has been much speculation that any life on Jupiter, or on other gas giants, might be ammonia-based life. The possibility of "abundant biota" in the upper regions of Jupiter's atmosphere was considered in a 1976 paper by Carl Sagan and Edwin E. Salpeter1, three years after the fly-by of the first Jupiter probe, Pioneer 10. Sagan and Salpeter compared the ecology of the Jovian atmosphere with that of terrestrial seas which have simple photosynthetic plankton
at the top level, fish at lower levels feeding on these creatures, and
marine predators which hunt the fish. The three hypothetical Jovian
equivalents of these organisms, Sagan and Salpeter termed "sinkers",
"floaters", and "hunters". They envisaged creatures like giant gas-bags
(see bubble life) that move by pumping out helium and calculated that the "hunter" variety might grow to be many kilometers across (and therefore visible from space).
Jovian aerial life-forms like those described by Sagan and Salpeter are portrayed in Arthur C. Clarke's short story "A Meeting with Medusa" (in The Wind From the Sun). Ben Bova refers in his novel Jupiter to
"[H]uge
balloonlike creatures called Clarke's Medusas that drifted in the
hurricane-like winds surging across the planet. Birds that have never
seen land, living out their entire lives aloft. Gossamer spider-kites
that trapped microscopic spores. Particles of long-chain carbon
molecules that form in the clouds and sift downward, toward the global
ocean below."
Bova speculates
further that, in the high-pressure, liquid hydrogen ocean that lies
below Jupiter's thick atmosphere, are colossal, city-sized creatures
with intelligence. He follows the exploits of one of these sentient
giants – Leviathan: Predators
swarmed through Leviathan's ocean: swift voracious Darters that struck
at Leviathan's kind and devoured their outer members.
In recent years,
astrobiological interest in the jovian system has shifted from Jupiter
itself to its larger moons, especially Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto. Read also about the possibilities for life on Mars, Venus, and for extraterrestrial life in general."
feihlination
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just to ask, hardcore christian?
there are something like 10^25 stars to be observed from the earth, each of them theoretically ofering the possibility of life just like our solar system does.
so how can someone even think that we are the only form of life in the whole universe?
there are something like 10^25 stars to be observed from the earth, each of them theoretically ofering the possibility of life just like our solar system does.
so how can someone even think that we are the only form of life in the whole universe?
grifftang
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haha no i dont believe in god
its just that life has many, extremely precise needs to come to be (temperature, elements, geography, even the moon has to do with the creation of life)
i believe that there are planets where life can exist, but i dont think there is life there, life is pretty much impossible to start
its just that life has many, extremely precise needs to come to be (temperature, elements, geography, even the moon has to do with the creation of life)
i believe that there are planets where life can exist, but i dont think there is life there, life is pretty much impossible to start
chapz
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there HASA to be another species of life out there. there are multiple universes, black holes, the list goes on. as said in one of the videos above, einstein basically made it clear that humans cannot beat the speed of light, unless we break the laws of physics. if we were able to bend matter and create shortcuts, that would basically mean we're teleporting.
our race is cocky for believing we're the onlly ones. but we have to be, or else religion would be non-existent.
just curious, what do you guys think about life and death?
our race is cocky for believing we're the onlly ones. but we have to be, or else religion would be non-existent.
just curious, what do you guys think about life and death?
feihlination
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well you can turn it around. a standard solar system like ours (the only one whose planets we can really observe) provides the possibility of life.
so its as probable that the next solar system has life as ours. and even if chances that a solar system could provide life are like 1:1,000,000,000,000, there would be still something like 1,000,000,000,000,000 solar systems out there with planets that could provide life. and even then, lets say, the chances are 1:1,000,000 that those solar systems actually contain life, we still could count on more than 1,000,000,000 other forms of life.
i dont say that youre an idiot for having your point, but to me its just impossible that this HUGE UNIVERSE contains nothing but us. and even if some christian comes up to me and tell me that god made the universe and only set life on earth, i would have to ask, why god was such a moron to build more than 10^25 empty solar systems around this little ass planet?
so its as probable that the next solar system has life as ours. and even if chances that a solar system could provide life are like 1:1,000,000,000,000, there would be still something like 1,000,000,000,000,000 solar systems out there with planets that could provide life. and even then, lets say, the chances are 1:1,000,000 that those solar systems actually contain life, we still could count on more than 1,000,000,000 other forms of life.
i dont say that youre an idiot for having your point, but to me its just impossible that this HUGE UNIVERSE contains nothing but us. and even if some christian comes up to me and tell me that god made the universe and only set life on earth, i would have to ask, why god was such a moron to build more than 10^25 empty solar systems around this little ass planet?
grifftang
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i dont think 1 in a million is even close to how possible life isit may be possible for life to live on 1 in a million planets, but not to be createdearth might seem like its a normal planet in a normal solar system, but its notit had, at one point a long ass time ago, all the necessities to create life, which the chances of this happening i believe, is one in a universe
feihlination
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well i assumed that 1:1,000,000 is the probability of actual life if the solar system itself (and its planets) are something what we call life friendly (something i guessed 1:1,000,000,000,000). planets in size of something like the earth, good distance from the sun and so on. what is not included, is that life could emerge from various surroundings. maybe somewhere else they breathe methan and consist of something else than carbonhydrogens...
i know what you mean and i dont want you to think like i do, i know that theyre out there, but i dont "feel" them or whatever. theyre too far away to reach us and we can never reach them. these "fold the universe" things are pretty much impossible, you know you have to set mass/energy somewhere to give the universe a bump. the amount of energy to fold it that way to reach alpha centauri in one hour are unbelievable and - i fear impossible to provide.
i know what you mean and i dont want you to think like i do, i know that theyre out there, but i dont "feel" them or whatever. theyre too far away to reach us and we can never reach them. these "fold the universe" things are pretty much impossible, you know you have to set mass/energy somewhere to give the universe a bump. the amount of energy to fold it that way to reach alpha centauri in one hour are unbelievable and - i fear impossible to provide.
thisandthatfilms
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hhaaha same