My skis snapped after Half a season.

Please bear in mind that you're representing a company, even if it's just a made-up-pretend company, and what a company can say about another company, particularly in a public forum, is very very different to what an individual can say about a company. Google "libel" next time you have 3 spare minutes on your iPad.
 
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Chinese made brands typically do not have the durability and the performance of European and some American and Canadian boutique made skis. There are definitely exceptions, and case by case instances, but generally the quality out of China is not quite up to what all the other guys may be doing. China is improving, but another aspect that you have to take a look at is manufacturing materials. Cores, sidewalls, bases, manufacturing techniques, etc, all come into play when considering things such as durability and performance. I don't want to single out any companies for the good or bad, but if you are looking for a long lasting ski that performs better, European is the way to go. If you are looking to get a cheaper ski to progress on or that is all you can afford (we are all poor ski bums that may or may not have rich white kid backgrounds) Chinese skis are definitely an awesome option.
 
I didnt, because there was already rail damage on the edges of the skis. I assumed nothing would come of it. Once again, I'm not hating on surface ski's I actually really enjoyed the skis while they held together, they just broke wayyyy fast.
 
Bummer man. I had a pair of nine lifes, and a pair of no times both last me a good season each (50+)
 
Sorry for the double post but I just want to re-iterate that this thread was not created to hate on Surface, while the ski lasted it was great and I enjoyed the hell out of it. The way that it broke was just incredible to, the landing wasnt hard, and I was barely even over my tips. Everyone who watched me crash had no idea how my ski could have cracked. I thought it was interesting so I posted it here.

I have since purchased Armada T-halls and throughout the rest of my ski season I will be skiing those. So far they seem absolutely bulletproof, Its hard to even chip the topsheet. I paid 400 for my T-halls mounted, and paid like 200 something for my no times. You get what you pay for. I also really wish people would stop the hate on sureface because I like them as a company. Anyways, If anyone wants more pictures or has any questions for me feel free to ask away.
 
Iv had two paris of surface both of which are the watch lifes...the absolutly kill it so hard great ski responsive, holds and edge well, great all mountain ski.

Im just sick of these NS fucktards who are like ohhhhh mann my ski broke after i slammed it on a piece of metal or landed wrong from 40 ft in the air. Hey NS, guess what, thats your own fucking fault. OP i hope you dont get free new skis because there are plenty of other people who need "free" skis more than you. You clearly used these skis for park and that is the consequences. Surface makes great skis. Half of this site is full of idiots
 
Wow theres alot of idiots who cant seem to read in this thread. I clearly said that the skis were awesome, and I was surprised they broke. THIS THREAD IS NOT MEANT TO HATE ON SURFACE
 
Surface makes a very odd product. Nine lifes / no times all break, double times have a super soft tail and stiff tip (dah fuck??), and I'm still puzzled at the fact that my one lifes are cambered under foot.
 
Saying yolo makes you sound like a skinny little twat that couldn't find his way home one night and had to sleep on the side of the street in a ditch only to be buttraped by a bunch of angry penguins.
 
i wasn't saying you were hating, just was wondering. Had you written to mike before posting up on here, i feel like he probably would have at least offered you a banger deal on another pair, he's legit as they come in my books.
 
you seem to be a little misinformed on the subject.

there is no issue with the manufacturing in china. im not quite sure what you're basing your opinion on but do you think that if there was an issue with manufacturing in China, every company that has product made there would just allow crap product to be made and sink their name?

 
Not all companies that manufacture in China have durability problems. Not all companies that manufacture in Europe create more durable skis. But for the most part this is the case. Example would be how Volkl was moved Gotama production to China until they all started falling apart. They promptly moved production of the ski back to Europe. Some companies can do a great job with Chinese manufacturing (AKA K2). But there are also a bunch of companies that cut corners to get a cheaper ski out increasing their product margin. Quality skis can come out of china, but there is definitely a load of crap coming out of there at the same time. About 5 years ago working as a shop tech, one of these smaller chinese made companies brought us all of their skis straight from the factory to machine them because they looked awful. Seeing a lot of them being delaminated out of the box, inconsistent flex, almost no flat bases, sidewalls coming apart, edge problems, and more, it was a nightmare. This is when the skis were brand new. This company is still in business by some miracle, and the quality is still very poor from what i have seen. I have seen similar problems in other chinese made brands. In my experience, these problems have come hand in hand with chinese production, or it may be better said cheap production. Maybe i've just seen a strange phenomenon in skis over the past 6 years in the shop, but i really doubt that is the case.
 
The Chinese will make you a good product if you specify, pay for it, and ensure the quality. Like anything, you get what you pay for.

 
Yeah my surface watch lifes snapped a couple inches behind the binding 10 days into the season I wont be getting another surface ski
 
I gotta say the powder skis surface makes hold up better in the park then the park skis do. I work at a shop also and have seen many, and I mean many, broken skis form the time series. I know guys that have done hell to their one lifes and watch lifes in the park with no problems. I dont know what it is but if you want to ride park on surfaces head for the life series. Or just roll with ON3P.
 
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