My friend got dropped
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styley.
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Everybody who says its a pussy sport has never played.
First of all, i would 100000x rather play good defense, get the ball, and score than get a big hit, have to the other team get it, and loose, or even get a penalty.
It's not like people can't/don't have chances to make big hits, it's that it's not practical.
First of all, i would 100000x rather play good defense, get the ball, and score than get a big hit, have to the other team get it, and loose, or even get a penalty.
It's not like people can't/don't have chances to make big hits, it's that it's not practical.
Chaka
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I was always a football kid and I loved watching lax and trying to play it. Never had the skills with a lax stick, and then I tried to step it up and play rugby because my dad did when he was a my age. It was insane, harder hits and way more injuries and pretty much the manliest men playing. I tried but couldn't handle it. My pops still has no hips or knees because of it. Rugby is a mans sport.
ElbridgeGerry
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That's what's up. Football will always be the sport I'm best at, but Rugby holds a special place in my heart. As for the guy who says that the reason Lax players don't hit hard is because the play stops...the play doesn't stop in Rugby.
cobra_commander
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ElbridgeGerry
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That's what I thought, no fucking response.
bovice29
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this is my friend getting crushed by a dematha kid. we won by like ten but i think that lacrosse players are tough because after they get hit they get back up and finish the play (usually)http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/1271726351Tony_Wrecked.mov
hurrisun
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haha wat r u talking about you are calling lax players pussies i am saying thats stupid I havent played football in a couple years you said the falcons are londons only decent team i said the falcons are londons only team you obviously dont play for anybody special or else you would be reppin your team so get off all those kids dicks just cuz they r tough and play football dosnt mean ur tough cuz you play football your proly a pussy ass water boy
hurrisun
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ok 1 point if you ever watch ncaa lacrosse so many of the players also got offered football scholarships to big american universities but chose lacrosse instead
and i talked to my friend apparently last season the all 3 divisions of the london falcons went made it to the ontario chamionships the juniors won and the falcon juniors have won the ontario championships 4 times which is the most anyone has one
so that toronto team youve prolly tried out for since pee wee but were just not tough enough to make can suck london records dick plus toronto has about 6 times as many people to choose from so 6 times as many pussies who like you who think they r tough
and i talked to my friend apparently last season the all 3 divisions of the london falcons went made it to the ontario chamionships the juniors won and the falcon juniors have won the ontario championships 4 times which is the most anyone has one
so that toronto team youve prolly tried out for since pee wee but were just not tough enough to make can suck london records dick plus toronto has about 6 times as many people to choose from so 6 times as many pussies who like you who think they r tough
ElbridgeGerry
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I play for the Hawkeyes, in the OVFL. I also played for u17 last year when we won the national championship, I have the ring to prove it. I play middle linebacker for my school, and I played safety for the U17 team, I play linebacker for the Hawkeyes.
Maybe you should shut the fuck up and stop making assumptions, so suck my dick.
Maybe you should shut the fuck up and stop making assumptions, so suck my dick.
ElbridgeGerry
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I live in Haliburton, 2.5 hours away from Oshawa. Oshawa is the closest OVFL team so I have to play for them if I want to play at all, I don't give a shit if we win every single game I just want to play football. Hussein lives in Toronto, and therefore plays for the Toronto Thunder. Go look up Team Ontario Under 17 football, then tell me that the ring doesn't count.
hurrisun
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you obviosuly dont play because you love it you play so you can say ur the toughest its ttally an image thing u prolly ride the bench the only reason u travel 2 hours is so u can tell ur friends about all the sick plays you made and never have to worry about them coming to the game and seeing you hadning out dixie cups and stirrin a big jug gator sauce
ElbridgeGerry
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...You really don't have anything do you? Your argument got fucked, so now you're insulting me? I'm sorry, but if you start for u17..it means you're a pretty fucken good player. I started for u17.
ElbridgeGerry
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Alright man I'll let ya know.
I've never played lacrosse or American but I'd be surprised if there weren't big hits in both.
I don't know much about either but I'd expect the harder hits to be in NFL. Thats because there's more money in NFL so I expect that the biggest strongest guys drift to NFL and there is a wider base of players to choose from not because footballs a naturally tougher sport. I'm guessing the impact speed are roughly the same and that Lax padding is gives the same sort of protection as football padding.
You can't compare two sports without comparing the level at which the sport is played. I'd expect Pro lacrosse players (are there pro lax players?) to put in much bigger hits than high school football players. Example, played rugby from the age of 4 to 18 without injury. Went to University and played a much higher standard against much bigger, stronger and faster people. Result; surgery at the end of every season for 4 year straight and still needed another one latter.
There was a TV show called Sports Science on in the UK that did a special on the hardest hits. The test methods they used were pretty crude but it was interesting to watch. Results, impact in Sumo and Ice Hockey were much lower than the rest. This really surprised me as I've always thought that Ice Hockey looks very physical but I think the test method they used was pretty dodgy for Ice Hockey.
Next up was an NFL player blind siding a dummy square in the back. Can't remember the force generated but it wasn't that high compared to some other hits (but it was over 1000lbs which was more than they got from a sledgehammer).
Then Rampage Jackson's punch at 1800lbs.
Then was rugby. Some idiot somewhere decided that getting hit while receiving a hospital pass is the hardest hit in rugby. How this beat out getting tackled when receiving a high ball, getting dump tackled a bit side of head on or a head on tackle/collision between two centres/crash ball specialist (definitely the hardest hit legal hits I've received and given) is completely beyond me . I guess someone would just end up in hospital if they tried this. They also forgot the highest impact in the game, the engagement in the scrum. A 2000lb mass of freaks smashing into another 2000lb group of freaks with pretty much all the force going through the loose and tighthead props necks and upper spine. There's a reason why props get paralysed or killed on the pitch more than every other position put together.
Anyway, rant over; initial hit was 17000lbs and then the hit on contact with the ground was 20000lbs. They noted that the force from the impact was very highly contracted rather than spread out. They used real people for this one rather than an athlete and a dummy. But, they used American rugby players rather than Pros from Europe or the Southern Hemisphere. Anyway this was a load of craps as hitting as target that is prepared to take a hit is very different to hitting a dummy.
Next up was an NFL player hitting a dummy head on. The dummy was on a weighted sled which didn't move much so the dummy was basically fixed. Impact force; a lot, can't remember but considerably higher than rugby. But they measured the force on the suit not the force transmitted to the body underneath. Here's another NFL player who's supposed to be good though:
Finally...the Winner...Rampage Jackson with a body slam. Its looks like a spear tackle (rugby definition of spear tackle, i.e. very hard, very dangerous and a penalty offence at least for a very good reason) from a static start to me. But the results are huge, 400g of acceleration on the head. Thats HUGE. Admittedly it was using a dummy that could resist the tackle but I've seen enough spear tackles and resulting hospitalisations to know that this would fuck you up if executed well.
I don't know much about either but I'd expect the harder hits to be in NFL. Thats because there's more money in NFL so I expect that the biggest strongest guys drift to NFL and there is a wider base of players to choose from not because footballs a naturally tougher sport. I'm guessing the impact speed are roughly the same and that Lax padding is gives the same sort of protection as football padding.
You can't compare two sports without comparing the level at which the sport is played. I'd expect Pro lacrosse players (are there pro lax players?) to put in much bigger hits than high school football players. Example, played rugby from the age of 4 to 18 without injury. Went to University and played a much higher standard against much bigger, stronger and faster people. Result; surgery at the end of every season for 4 year straight and still needed another one latter.
There was a TV show called Sports Science on in the UK that did a special on the hardest hits. The test methods they used were pretty crude but it was interesting to watch. Results, impact in Sumo and Ice Hockey were much lower than the rest. This really surprised me as I've always thought that Ice Hockey looks very physical but I think the test method they used was pretty dodgy for Ice Hockey.
Next up was an NFL player blind siding a dummy square in the back. Can't remember the force generated but it wasn't that high compared to some other hits (but it was over 1000lbs which was more than they got from a sledgehammer).
Then Rampage Jackson's punch at 1800lbs.
Then was rugby. Some idiot somewhere decided that getting hit while receiving a hospital pass is the hardest hit in rugby. How this beat out getting tackled when receiving a high ball, getting dump tackled a bit side of head on or a head on tackle/collision between two centres/crash ball specialist (definitely the hardest hit legal hits I've received and given) is completely beyond me . I guess someone would just end up in hospital if they tried this. They also forgot the highest impact in the game, the engagement in the scrum. A 2000lb mass of freaks smashing into another 2000lb group of freaks with pretty much all the force going through the loose and tighthead props necks and upper spine. There's a reason why props get paralysed or killed on the pitch more than every other position put together.
Anyway, rant over; initial hit was 17000lbs and then the hit on contact with the ground was 20000lbs. They noted that the force from the impact was very highly contracted rather than spread out. They used real people for this one rather than an athlete and a dummy. But, they used American rugby players rather than Pros from Europe or the Southern Hemisphere. Anyway this was a load of craps as hitting as target that is prepared to take a hit is very different to hitting a dummy.
Next up was an NFL player hitting a dummy head on. The dummy was on a weighted sled which didn't move much so the dummy was basically fixed. Impact force; a lot, can't remember but considerably higher than rugby. But they measured the force on the suit not the force transmitted to the body underneath. Here's another NFL player who's supposed to be good though:
Finally...the Winner...Rampage Jackson with a body slam. Its looks like a spear tackle (rugby definition of spear tackle, i.e. very hard, very dangerous and a penalty offence at least for a very good reason) from a static start to me. But the results are huge, 400g of acceleration on the head. Thats HUGE. Admittedly it was using a dummy that could resist the tackle but I've seen enough spear tackles and resulting hospitalisations to know that this would fuck you up if executed well.
Ski_The_East10
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Thank you. There is absolutely no sport tougher than rugby..take all the hard hits in football/lax/hockey and then subtract the pads..
ElbridgeGerry
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My friend's rugby coach made him drag himself off the field when he broke his leg. He's also the same coach who wouldn't give his players a water break..and consequently 5 of them passed out. He's under review from OFSSA
Coach sounds an idiot! I'm all for training hard but I don't see how not having water or walking on a broken leg is going to make anyone a better player.
He must be pretty old school. Up until bout 15-20 years ago you were not allowed to substitute a player if he was physically capable of playing. Break your leg and you can be substituted. Dislocated your shoulder and tough fucking luck, put it back in and keep going! I'm glad I never played under those rules.
He must be pretty old school. Up until bout 15-20 years ago you were not allowed to substitute a player if he was physically capable of playing. Break your leg and you can be substituted. Dislocated your shoulder and tough fucking luck, put it back in and keep going! I'm glad I never played under those rules.
ElbridgeGerry
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He may sound like an asshole, but his coaching fucking works. He's the football and rugby coach and they've won OFSSA(state championship) for 2 years in a row for both teams.