Move to Utah?

CHIEFKEEF

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Might move to Utah looking for advice. From pnw. Just broke up with my girl. Trying to ski a shit ton obviously wondering if Alta is worth it. Also people living in the area how is it commute and everything?
 
Better line up a job, there’s a lot of resort jobs around but you’d be working during your skiing time, maybe be a groomer and ski days and groom nights.

im curious to see the other tips
 
NGL Utah is kinda a shit show at the moment. Housing is a freakin mess and even small apartments in SLC are going for around 2k (from what I've seen). The skiing is awesome but its getting more and more crowded every year, but I guess that's normal. If I were you, I would move into an area like north of SLC and made the small trek to Little Cottonwood each week, I did that for years and it worked out ok.
 
Dude just drive over to North Idaho and find some place to live in Sandpoint and hit up Schweitzer. Utah and CO are played out by now with insane crowds and traffic.
 
Good luck finding somewhere to live.

Cost of living in SLC valley used to be pretty cheap few years back. Now it’s not. Wages in the valley are hit and miss, depends what line of work you’re in. Skiing is a mess. To many people. To much traffic. All that standard shit people complain about.

I left after 13 years there. For whatever that’s worth.
 
been here a year, in my time here the housing market has caught up to the rest of the US, previously housing was basically a steal, this is most likely due to the changes in the workforce due to covid. Also be warned that people here can be super anal about covid requirements still. Also I've had much better luck skiing park at PC when compared to trying to ski at Alta.
 
its honestly turning into such a shit show. been here since 2009 and it gets less and less worth it every season.
 
Take what these kids are saying with a grain of salt.

I was there for a month last year peak season for what it's worth and the "longest" commute I had to get to Alta from downtown SLC was 55 minutes (this was on a massive pow day.) So many people in line complaining about how long it took to get up the canyon and I laughed/ cried in Colorado. The next month I spent 3 and a half hours getting back from Breck on a Sunday. Denver is played out, SLC still some hope but sounds like it's diminishing quick so get there while you can.

**This post was edited on Nov 8th 2021 at 6:23:42pm
 
All these people are tripping.

Utah is great. Beautiful. Lots of jobs, skiing is dope. Lots of ns homies in the area.

Granted the housing market is fucked but that's pretty much the whole country so.

Lmk if you make it in op.
 
You were there for a month…comments are coming from people that have lived there long term….maybe we should take your comment with a grain of salt.

It’s no Denver to Breck on a Friday rush hour, but it’s not to far away from being that

14343095:Film. said:
Take what these kids are saying with a grain of salt.

I was there for a month last year peak season for what it's worth and the "longest" commute I had to get to Alta from downtown SLC was 55 minutes (this was on a massive pow day.) So many people in line complaining about how long it took to get up the canyon and I laughed/ cried in Colorado. The next month I spent 3 and a half hours getting back from Breck on a Sunday. Denver is played out, SLC still some hope but sounds like it's diminishing quick so get there while you can.

**This post was edited on Nov 8th 2021 at 6:23:42pm
 
14343176:SkiBum. said:
You were there for a month…comments are coming from people that have lived there long term….maybe we should take your comment with a grain of salt.

It’s no Denver to Breck on a Friday rush hour, but it’s not to far away from being that

It's impossible for it to ever be that bad. The canyon is only 7 miles long

Geographically it's impossible
 
this is by far not the longest youll wait in the red snake. definitely possible to sit in traffic 2+ hours going either direction in the canyon if you hit it wrong…

14343095:Film. said:
Take what these kids are saying with a grain of salt.

I was there for a month last year peak season for what it's worth and the "longest" commute I had to get to Alta from downtown SLC was 55 minutes (this was on a massive pow day.) So many people in line complaining about how long it took to get up the canyon and I laughed/ cried in Colorado. The next month I spent 3 and a half hours getting back from Breck on a Sunday. Denver is played out, SLC still some hope but sounds like it's diminishing quick so get there while you can.

**This post was edited on Nov 8th 2021 at 6:23:42pm
 
14343181:programmed_robot said:
this is by far not the longest youll wait in the red snake. definitely possible to sit in traffic 2+ hours going either direction in the canyon if you hit it wrong…

Oh no lord forbid you go to Brighton or PC instead!

SLC skiers are so spoiled it's hilarious

I get that that the canyon traffic is becoming a problem but cmon guys your woes sounds ridiculous.
 
You obviously had a good or lucky month driving in Utah for skiing when you were there…

14343180:Film. said:
It's impossible for it to ever be that bad. The canyon is only 7 miles long

Geographically it's impossible
 
All of this has been help full thank you for all the replies. Word is bond. Ill holler at yall if im move out nomsayin.
 
14343004:SuspiciousFish said:
Dude just drive over to North Idaho and find some place to live in Sandpoint and hit up Schweitzer. Utah and CO are played out by now with insane crowds and traffic.

It's really weird to me that Schweitzer is exactly as much fun as Sand Point isn't.
 
14343323:SkiBum. said:
You obviously had a good or lucky month driving in Utah for skiing when you were there…

Maybe so, but let’s get down to brass tax here. What other city (has to have over 100k people) has so many resorts in such close proximity to a legitimate city where you could be working a good salary job and actually find reasonable rent? The answer is none

People that move to SLC can move there and actually further their life with jobs and relationships, etc.

This forum always cracks me up cause some kid is looking to move to SLC and work and mfers be like “ya bro just move to jackson hole in the middle of nowhere instead cause I sat in 25 more extra minutes of traffic on the way to park city today. SLC is played.” Like it’s reasonable for 20 year old kids to pack up to some of the most expensive and isolated ski towns in the world and just figure it out.

I understand you guys have seen a massive population influx and it’s caused mayhem on the roads but believe me it’s nothing close to the shit we’ve been dealing with in Denver. If you wanna move to a ski town and just ski thats great kids should do that but SLC can provide both career growth and great skiing at the same time. There’s almost no other city in America that can do that.
 
14343176:SkiBum. said:
You were there for a month…comments are coming from people that have lived there long term….maybe we should take your comment with a grain of salt.

It’s no Denver to Breck on a Friday rush hour, but it’s not to far away from being that

It's like 5 hours shorter than the the Summit County to Denver weekend trail of tears. It's not even in the same galaxy of shit that is the classic front range Colorado ski commute after 2 inches of snow. That comparison is hilariously ignorant.
 
14343349:Film. said:
Maybe so, but let’s get down to brass tax here. What other city (has to have over 100k people) has so many resorts in such close proximity to a legitimate city where you could be working a good salary job and actually find reasonable rent? The answer is none

People that move to SLC can move there and actually further their life with jobs and relationships, etc.

This forum always cracks me up cause some kid is looking to move to SLC and work and mfers be like “ya bro just move to jackson hole in the middle of nowhere instead cause I sat in 25 more extra minutes of traffic on the way to park city today. SLC is played.” Like it’s reasonable for 20 year old kids to pack up to some of the most expensive and isolated ski towns in the world and just figure it out.

I understand you guys have seen a massive population influx and it’s caused mayhem on the roads but believe me it’s nothing close to the shit we’ve been dealing with in Denver. If you wanna move to a ski town and just ski thats great kids should do that but SLC can provide both career growth and great skiing at the same time. There’s almost no other city in America that can do that.

This is spot on
 
14343349:Film. said:
Maybe so, but let’s get down to brass tax here. What other city (has to have over 100k people) has so many resorts in such close proximity to a legitimate city where you could be working a good salary job and actually find reasonable rent? The answer is none

People that move to SLC can move there and actually further their life with jobs and relationships, etc.

This forum always cracks me up cause some kid is looking to move to SLC and work and mfers be like “ya bro just move to jackson hole in the middle of nowhere instead cause I sat in 25 more extra minutes of traffic on the way to park city today. SLC is played.” Like it’s reasonable for 20 year old kids to pack up to some of the most expensive and isolated ski towns in the world and just figure it out.

I understand you guys have seen a massive population influx and it’s caused mayhem on the roads but believe me it’s nothing close to the shit we’ve been dealing with in Denver. If you wanna move to a ski town and just ski thats great kids should do that but SLC can provide both career growth and great skiing at the same time. There’s almost no other city in America that can do that.

This. The people around here have no clue how convenient it is. If you think it's anything close to living on the front range of Colorado you need a reality check. I grew up with that commute and it's so depressing.
 
14343181:programmed_robot said:
this is by far not the longest youll wait in the red snake. definitely possible to sit in traffic 2+ hours going either direction in the canyon if you hit it wrong…

2+ hours is what you get when you hit it wrong??? Brb moving from boulder/longmont area to utah real quick. I've always wanted to be the coloradoan that gets to ruin another state
 
I didn’t compare it to front range. I didn’t tell anyone to move to Jackson. I’m just letting you know traffic is a serious issue. Rental costs and housing are a serious issue.

Location of City to mountains is ideal. None better. It’s just not the cakewalk it used to be. There are also parking issues at resorts, mediocre public transportation, and the standard rush on fresh snow days.

Or just move here and figure it out like most do. You asked for suggestions, they were given.
 
14343184:Film. said:
Oh no lord forbid you go to Brighton or PC instead!

SLC skiers are so spoiled it's hilarious

I get that that the canyon traffic is becoming a problem but cmon guys your woes sounds ridiculous.

I work 4 10 hour shifts a week at alta (8am to 6pm). If the commute takes an hour each way, it becomes a 12 hour day, if it takes 2 hours each way (which happens many times a year) it becomes a 14 hour day. Any time there will be a road closure, I have to get in the canyon at 5am before it closes. Then it often takes 2 hours to get home. Thats a 15 hour day. 5am to 8pm. Thats a long ass day, especially considering the road is only 7 miles long. I have a dog to take care of, I can't be out of my house for that long without needing someone to dog sit. Other people have kids to take care of. For them, it sucks having to leave for work well before your kids wake up for school, and not getting back until after they should have eaten dinner. The last 2 years I have been stuck in 48hr+ interlodge days where its literally illegal to go outside. Getting stuck at work for 3 days sucks, I don't care who you are. Not everyone can afford passes to brighton and pc on top of lcc, plus if the traffic is that bad for lcc, it's probably just as bad for bcc.

We are spoiled in many ways, but slc used to be a place where you could be a "ski bum" who works in the industry, and still have a somewhat normal lifestyle outside of skiing. Now we are getting priced out, overcrowded, and having to choose to only prioritize skiing at the expense of all else. Yes there is a lot of fun left to be had, but I'm honestly at a point where i'd rather have a day of 2-4 inches of windblown snow than the stressful shit show that is powder days. Call me spoiled and jaded if you want, but it has gotten so much worse in the time that i've been here.
 
14343559:wasatch_rat said:
I work 4 10 hour shifts a week at alta (8am to 6pm). If the commute takes an hour each way, it becomes a 12 hour day, if it takes 2 hours each way (which happens many times a year) it becomes a 14 hour day. Any time there will be a road closure, I have to get in the canyon at 5am before it closes. Then it often takes 2 hours to get home. Thats a 15 hour day. 5am to 8pm. Thats a long ass day, especially considering the road is only 7 miles long. I have a dog to take care of, I can't be out of my house for that long without needing someone to dog sit. Other people have kids to take care of. For them, it sucks having to leave for work well before your kids wake up for school, and not getting back until after they should have eaten dinner. The last 2 years I have been stuck in 48hr+ interlodge days where its literally illegal to go outside. Getting stuck at work for 3 days sucks, I don't care who you are. Not everyone can afford passes to brighton and pc on top of lcc, plus if the traffic is that bad for lcc, it's probably just as bad for bcc.

We are spoiled in many ways, but slc used to be a place where you could be a "ski bum" who works in the industry, and still have a somewhat normal lifestyle outside of skiing. Now we are getting priced out, overcrowded, and having to choose to only prioritize skiing at the expense of all else. Yes there is a lot of fun left to be had, but I'm honestly at a point where i'd rather have a day of 2-4 inches of windblown snow than the stressful shit show that is powder days. Call me spoiled and jaded if you want, but it has gotten so much worse in the time that i've been here.

So then build that gondola and push the greenies out of the way who are crying about concrete towers going up in certain places.

There I fixed your problem your commute is now 30 minutes and you never have to deal with another road closure due to avy blasting again.

You are welcome

It's 7 miles long get a fat bike and ride it up ?
 
i'm one of the few who actually does support the gondola. funny joke about the bike tho, super clever. thats not gonna slow the road down more or anything.
 
14343565:Film. said:
So then build that gondola and push the greenies out of the way who are crying about concrete towers going up in certain places.

There I fixed your problem your commute is now 30 minutes and you never have to deal with another road closure due to avy blasting again.

You are welcome

It's 7 miles long get a fat bike and ride it up ?

ahh… funny the out of towner recommends a $500+ million dollar project funded by the tax paying locals. not like slc has a huge air quality issue that could be largely impacted with that kinda funding, and would benefit more ppl living in the salt lake valley.
 
14343589:programmed_robot said:
ahh… funny the out of towner recommends a $500+ million dollar project funded by the tax paying locals. not like slc has a huge air quality issue that could be largely impacted with that kinda funding, and would benefit more ppl living in the salt lake valley.

Look man I don't really care what you all decide to do but if you don't pick the gondola no one is going to feel bad about how bad your traffic is.

**This post was edited on Nov 9th 2021 at 2:31:26pm
 
14343609:Film. said:
Look man I don't really care what you all decide to do but if you don't pick the gondola no one is going to feel bad how bad your traffic is.

i do think the gondola is a great option but if its funded by tax payers, its not the most pressing issue slc needs to resolve.
 
if ya had told me in the 90's and early double aughts

i was ski bumin the glory days of the satch

ida got my shit togather listened to warrens voice and done it in the 80's

it probably aint gonna git easier

sometimes a bit harder makes the dream less attainable but more worthy

dont let nobody live yur dream nor dissuade you

itll be what you make of it
 
14343675:SFBv420.0 said:
if ya had told me in the 90's and early double aughts

i was ski bumin the glory days of the satch

ida got my shit togather listened to warrens voice and done it in the 80's

it probably aint gonna git easier

sometimes a bit harder makes the dream less attainable but more worthy

dont let nobody live yur dream nor dissuade you

itll be what you make of it

 
14343559:wasatch_rat said:
I work 4 10 hour shifts a week at alta (8am to 6pm). If the commute takes an hour each way, it becomes a 12 hour day, if it takes 2 hours each way (which happens many times a year) it becomes a 14 hour day. Any time there will be a road closure, I have to get in the canyon at 5am before it closes. Then it often takes 2 hours to get home. Thats a 15 hour day. 5am to 8pm. Thats a long ass day, especially considering the road is only 7 miles long. I have a dog to take care of, I can't be out of my house for that long without needing someone to dog sit. Other people have kids to take care of. For them, it sucks having to leave for work well before your kids wake up for school, and not getting back until after they should have eaten dinner. The last 2 years I have been stuck in 48hr+ interlodge days where its literally illegal to go outside. Getting stuck at work for 3 days sucks, I don't care who you are. Not everyone can afford passes to brighton and pc on top of lcc, plus if the traffic is that bad for lcc, it's probably just as bad for bcc.

We are spoiled in many ways, but slc used to be a place where you could be a "ski bum" who works in the industry, and still have a somewhat normal lifestyle outside of skiing. Now we are getting priced out, overcrowded, and having to choose to only prioritize skiing at the expense of all else. Yes there is a lot of fun left to be had, but I'm honestly at a point where i'd rather have a day of 2-4 inches of windblown snow than the stressful shit show that is powder days. Call me spoiled and jaded if you want, but it has gotten so much worse in the time that i've been here.

this might be a little insensitive but if you have kids or commitments you probably shouldn't be trying to be a ski bum working a job with difficult hours.
 
14343095:Film. said:
Take what these kids are saying with a grain of salt.

I was there for a month last year peak season for what it's worth and the "longest" commute I had to get to Alta from downtown SLC was 55 minutes (this was on a massive pow day.) So many people in line complaining about how long it took to get up the canyon and I laughed/ cried in Colorado. The next month I spent 3 and a half hours getting back from Breck on a Sunday. Denver is played out, SLC still some hope but sounds like it's diminishing quick so get there while you can.

**This post was edited on Nov 8th 2021 at 6:23:42pm

I've skied literally hundreds of days in both BCC and LCC over the last few years, and 55 minutes from downtown to Alta is not at all common for a "pow day". I'd call that lucky. - if you leave anytime after 7:30am (resorts open at 9) and before 2pm there is a chance you might not even be able to get a parking spot on said day. Big cottonwood starts turning people away around 10:30am on big days because they simply do not have enough space.
 
14343180:Film. said:
It's impossible for it to ever be that bad. The canyon is only 7 miles long

Geographically it's impossible

This guy is obviously not a local, and does NOT follow the wasanglessnakers
 
14343095:Film. said:
Take what these kids are saying with a grain of salt.

I was there for a month last year peak season for what it's worth and the "longest" commute I had to get to Alta from downtown SLC was 55 minutes (this was on a massive pow day.) So many people in line complaining about how long it took to get up the canyon and I laughed/ cried in Colorado. The next month I spent 3 and a half hours getting back from Breck on a Sunday. Denver is played out, SLC still some hope but sounds like it's diminishing quick so get there while you can.

**This post was edited on Nov 8th 2021 at 6:23:42pm

I mean take everything with a grain of salt but also the fact that you were there for a month versus people who are saying theyve lived there for 2 -12 years.
 
14344029:Notaskibum said:
this might be a little insensitive but if you have kids or commitments you probably shouldn't be trying to be a ski bum working a job with difficult hours.

You're not wrong, but my whole point is that utah used to be a place where that was feasible, and it gets less so every year. Also, skiing is a multi billion dollar industry. The company I work for is a multi million dollar company. You can't have everyone in that industry be an under 25 year old with no responsibilities.
 
14344098:Denseclouds said:
I've skied literally hundreds of days in both BCC and LCC over the last few years, and 55 minutes from downtown to Alta is not at all common for a "pow day". I'd call that lucky. - if you leave anytime after 7:30am (resorts open at 9) and before 2pm there is a chance you might not even be able to get a parking spot on said day. Big cottonwood starts turning people away around 10:30am on big days because they simply do not have enough space.

I got some t shirts for you.
https://www.utahsucksdontmovehere.com/
 
14344103:theabortionator said:
I mean take everything with a grain of salt but also the fact that you were there for a month versus people who are saying theyve lived there for 2 -12 years.

Where does almost every pro skier/ park skier crew live in the United States?
 
The more you talk and try to save your case the more I hope you sit in traffic and pay $2500 for a loft.

Want to buy a house? I’ll got one in PC for sale Will give ya a deal wake up at 8am and be 2nd row at Canhole lot

14344217:Film. said:
Where does almost every pro skier/ park skier crew live in the United States?
 
Interesting reading this thread, I just moved to SLC. Was in Bozeman for 5 years, back east for 2 and then just got offered a good job with good pay in SLC so sent it back out west.

Haven't spent a full winter in Utah so obviously keep that in mind, though I've talked with many in the time I've been here about the issues around traffic / population / rent...and I'm sure my perspective will be changed after dealing with the bullshit this season but anyway.....

To me it's all about what you value. I'm not a true "ski bum" in the sense that I'm not working at a resort / shop / directly in the industry or working construction all summing to bum it all winter. I like making money, trying to save up for a house or whatever (this may or may not resonate) and overall moving in a positive direction with my career. Currently with my job I hopefully will be able to ski during the week all while making a pretty decent income for someone my age. In my experience, there's very few places where you can get a combo of good wages and proximity to good skiing.....I've lived in Bozeman, Burlington VT, Boston and have friends who are in Seattle, Bend, Bellingham, Durango...there's nowhere where everything is perfect whether it's crowds, wages, rent...every place has it's shit. You just gotta decide what you value.
 
14344338:SkiBum. said:
The more you talk and try to save your case the more I hope you sit in traffic and pay $2500 for a loft.

Want to buy a house? I’ll got one in PC for sale Will give ya a deal wake up at 8am and be 2nd row at Canhole lot

Answer my question.
 
The 2010/2011 winter I lived in Cottonwood Heights. I could walk down to the fire station to catch a bus up LCC. The bus also goes from Sandy and there is a transit station right at the base of the canyon. I liked living a little up the hill above the city smog layer. Traffic was bad if you left too late in the morning or didn’t apres til at least 5. You’ll figure it out. Alta/Snowbird is top 5 ski area in north America and brighton solitude and even park city are great too.

idk if they still do it but there used to be a lcc/bcc pass that was about environmental sustainability whatever that was a $1800 tax write off pass that gets you 30 days at all four mountains, transferable. Its was like the utah powder pass or something like that?
 
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