Mounting skis for the first time?

[1KSheehan]

So I watched a video on Youtube and and I feel I can mount the skis myself, however I have a query im planning on mounting a pair of Tyrolia Attack 13 and want to mount them on my ARV 96 16/17, I ride pretty much just park, so I'm planning on having my skis true centre. Can someone clarify that the true middle of the ski, is not the recommended mounting point by ski manufacturer but the exact centre of the ski? and that mounting the ski true centre is correct ounting positon for riding park. I'm fairly sure, I'm right but just wnat to double check before i go mount them. cheers

 

[1KSheehan]

Also will stander PVA wood glue be good to hold my bindings in?

 

[Pmoore]

to mount true center, get a tape measure and find the exact center of the ski yourself. And yes wood glue is good for holding bindings in. If you want to go a little above and beyond a two part epoxy is the probably your best glue option.

 

[1KSheehan]

to mount true center, get a tape measure and find the exact center of the ski yourself. And yes wood glue is good for holding bindings in. If you want to go a little above and beyond a two part epoxy is the probably your best glue option.

CHEERS!

 

[Session]

What could go wrong.?

 

[Gr0mo]

Mounting skis is no easy task. Highly recommend if you do it to get the rigs and not use some paper cut out.

 

[mtbakerpow]

You could get a tech and your local shop to hook up the jig,make the marks then you can take them home for the drilling. It's a simple thing and long as you have the exact measurements and correct drill bits.you don't want to drill too deep or too shallow.most skis have a depth marked on the ski for drilling

 

[1KSheehan]

What could go wrong.?

A LOT! I'am aware there is a lot that could go wrong with mounting them and how I could wreck a new pair of skis by doing them myself.

Mounting skis is no easy task. Highly recommend if you do it to get the rigs and not use some paper cut out.

I agree, using a rig would be ideal however, whats the negatives of using paper cut outs? #noobQS

You could get a tech and your local shop to hook up the jig,make the marks then you can take them home for the drilling. It's a simple thing and long as you have the exact measurements and correct drill bits.you don't want to drill too deep or too shallow.most skis have a depth marked on the ski for drilling

yeah, I mean I'm feel fairly confident in my practical abilities. But as you have all mentioned their are some high risks from doing in by myself. Just feel its a good thing to learn so pretty keen to do it myself. plus thought this videos method was pretty sound, your thoughts?

 

[1KSheehan]

if you happen to have junked old skis laying around my advice would be to go to town on them first and get some practice

yeah, I definatley think Ill have a practice, run on a block of wood/ set of skis.

 

[nashbuck]

I have gone through a pair before. Not fun. Would recommend going very slow, or getting an actual ski mount drill bit.

 

[mtbakerpow]

using your local shop is never a bad idea

 

[Casey]

It's just so much easier with a jig. But my local shop charges 65 bucks for a mount. So ridiculous, it takes 5 minutes.

 

[mtbakerpow]

It's just so much easier with a jig. But my local shop charges 65 bucks for a mount. So ridiculous, it takes 5 minutes.

65 is a rip off

 

[Casey]

65 is a rip off

Yeah, kind of unfortunate they used to be really legit. But just changed ownership and now it's a gentrified poser shop that sells five thousand dollar road bikes. Oh well, won't be going back.

 

[jca]

I taught myself how to mount skis years ago. its honestly pretty easy if you have calipers, a drill (or drillpress), a couple clamps, and a countersink bit. Usually takes me about 30 mins from start to finish.

TGR has a few good threads with lots of good info for mounting. You can find paper templates for any binding in the "Binding Mount Paper Templates" thread.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/153971-Binding-Mount-Paper-Templates
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/232898-PSA-Mount-your-own-fucking-skis

 

[jca]

I agree, using a rig would be ideal however, whats the negatives of using paper cut outs? #noobQS

They just make it take a bit longer because you have to measure for the center of the ski (along the longitudinal axis), the paper templates also wont guide you to drill straight into the ski so you have to be careful that your drill is vertical (drill press helps if you dont have much experience with a drill).

If you can measure that accurately to line up the template it goes pretty easy (I use calipers and the folded paper method you'll see on TGR).

I like to center punch each of the holes before I drill to make sure the bit is going directly into the center of where the hole is supposed to be.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask but the TGR threads plus that video should give you all the info you need.

 

[Zypher]

Threads for later, was going to do this and now I gots the info for it.

 

[freshiesbrah]

Mounting skis is ridiculously easy... IF you're confident with a hand drill/drill press, understand how to measure things properly and have the right tools.

You can do it with paper templates but make sure all your measurements are spot on and the template is printed at the right scale. A proper stepped ski drilling bit will stop you from going all the way through the ski, but a drill press and some tape on the bit at the right depth is pretty idiot proof.

Hell, I mounted my beater skis with no templates at all, just made some marks on the skis to show the centre line and marked the holes by poking a pen through the screw holes on the bindings. Never had a single issue with the bindings coming out and they're the fastest skis I own, fastest I've ever gone.

Read through the mount your own fucking skis thread on TGR

 

[1KSheehan]

They just make it take a bit longer because you have to measure for the center of the ski (along the longitudinal axis), the paper templates also wont guide you to drill straight into the ski so you have to be careful that your drill is vertical (drill press helps if you dont have much experience with a drill).

If you can measure that accurately to line up the template it goes pretty easy (I use calipers and the folded paper method you'll see on TGR).

I like to center punch each of the holes before I drill to make sure the bit is going directly into the center of where the hole is supposed to be.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask but the TGR threads plus that video should give you all the info you need.

Ah cheers will definitely let you know how it goes tonight. And will have a good read of that TGR thread beforehand I drill. And am I right to assume (along the longitudinal axis),is the the length along the sidewall?

Cheers for all the helpful responses.

 

[jca]

Ah cheers will definitely let you know how it goes tonight. And will have a good read of that TGR thread beforehand I drill. And am I right to assume (along the longitudinal axis),is the the length along the sidewall?

Cheers for all the helpful responses.

The longitudinal axis runs the length of the ski and you have to find the center of the ski by measuring from edge to edge, or half the width of the ski (middle/center). Hope that makes sense.

 

[razors-chaz]

Check at least twice. Drill once.

 

[a_burger]

if you can find one of these use it

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it makes the actual drilling way less stressful because you can take it slow.

As for paper jigs I'd do a test run on a 2x4 and make sure you know how it works.

 

[Gnor]

if you can find one of these use it

[img=]https://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/547108/547108,1273430472,1/stock-photo-old-hand-drill-52816051.jpg[/img]

it makes the actual drilling way less stressful because you can take it slow.

As for paper jigs I'd do a test run on a 2x4 and make sure you know how it works.

Shit id be more scared using one of those than my normal drill, sarcasm meter might be broken.

100% confirm test running on 2x4s. and if you dont have a proper drill bit dont drill too deep .

 

[a_burger]

Shit id be more scared using one of those than my normal drill, sarcasm meter might be broken.

100% confirm test running on 2x4s. and if you dont have a proper drill bit dont drill too deep .

why would it be more scary?

 

[Gnor]

why would it be more scary?

Easier to have clean and accurate holes with a drill spinning fast. I suppose if you don't have a ski drill bit and are worried about depth it could have a place.

I can just imagine it skipping or taking serious effort to get through anything but the softest of wood skis

 

[Casey]

Easier to have clean and accurate holes with a drill spinning fast. I suppose if you don't have a ski drill bit and are worried about depth it could have a place.

I can just imagine it skipping or taking serious effort to get through anything but the softest of wood skis

The bits you are supposed to use have a stop on them that keeps you from going too deep. A ski topsheet is so soft the bit isn't going to walk on you, it drives like hot knife through butter. That hand drill probly costs more than a low end drill at home depot.

 

[Gnor]

The bits you are supposed to use have a stop on them that keeps you from going too deep. A ski topsheet is so soft the bit isn't going to walk on you, it drives like hot knife through butter. That hand drill probly costs more than a low end drill at home depot.

The top sheet is soft, certain wood cores or metal sheets are less so. I just dont see a benefit of hand drilling and 'taking it slow' when if its lined up properly (measure twice etc) using a higher rpm drill will make the holes cleaner and make the whole process take less time and effort.

 

[a_burger]

The top sheet is soft, certain wood cores or metal sheets are less so. I just dont see a benefit of hand drilling and 'taking it slow' when if its lined up properly (measure twice etc) using a higher rpm drill will make the holes cleaner and make the whole process take less time and effort.

In my experience the white powdery stuff (fiberglass?) takes the longest to drill, once you break through that it goes through wood like butter

a hand drill isnt necessary, especially if you have a jig, but I prefer it, and it takes like 20 seconds max per hole. You'd have to have parkinsons to make a noticeable difference in how "clean" the hole is anyways

 

[1KSheehan]

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So Overall it went well, the paper templates where good however the back bolts where out by a couple of mm and the drill size I used where slightly smaller. This just made it harder to get bolts to fit. over than that it was spot on. I used tape on the drill bit for correct depth. Everything else was easy.