Most Overrated Gear

GeneSimmonsBong

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Don't be scared to drop some truth bombs and actually say something that is overrated not a thing everybody hates.

**This thread was edited on Jan 12th 2024 at 5:57:23pm
 
really nice ski jackets/pants in the midwest. see a lot of guys in ohio with 600 dollar jackets but we don’t even have 600 feet of elevation
 
14580111:Non_State_Actor said:

Yup. IMO they aren't any better than STHs (and way less satisfying to use). And their brakes suck. Still a top tier binding though.
 
May get downvotes for this but going along with the answer above of nice outerwear in the midwest, il add in pow skis for people who dont ever see more than a foot of fresh. Not saying pow sticks are bad, but just overrated.
 
14580142:hamsauce said:
May get downvotes for this but going along with the answer above of nice outerwear in the midwest, il add in pow skis for people who dont ever see more than a foot of fresh. Not saying pow sticks are bad, but just overrated.

ong basically any rockered ski will do just fine in a foot of pow
 
14580155:deke_ski said:
ong basically any rockered ski will do just fine in a foot of pow

a foot is pushing it. i’d say 6 inches is where the cut off starts. in 12 full inches of pow one would be far far happier on a 110 than an 90. in 6 inches of snow the 90 would fit right in.
 
14580171:Voyage86 said:
a foot is pushing it. i’d say 6 inches is where the cut off starts. in 12 full inches of pow one would be far far happier on a 110 than an 90. in 6 inches of snow the 90 would fit right in.

yeah fs but my poachers do great in soft snow which are 96 underfoot
 
14580234:BallClapper said:
Full Tilts. It might be a loved piece of gear for many skiers but I would never recommend to anybody.

have to agree, bought the k2 full tilts just because i thought they were good for park, and its definitely better to just buy something based on the fit/flex
 
14580141:Slowbro said:
Yup. IMO they aren't any better than STHs (and way less satisfying to use). And their brakes suck. Still a top tier binding though.

Everyone downvoting me has never heard the clunk of stepping into STHs, and has bent to shit brakes
 
14580130:bootspace said:
really nice ski jackets/pants in the midwest. see a lot of guys in ohio with 600 dollar jackets but we don’t even have 600 feet of elevation

bro what, 15 degrees is still 15 degrees. absolutely ridiculous statement.
 
Expensive goretex shells are great for rainy, snowy places like the PNW, or for FEET of powder. I stayed warm touring today in my $30 base layer, running jacket, and costco puffy for the way down. It was -20. I really only break my shell out if its windy or snowy.

when its between 10 and 20 degrees and im doing night laps all i wear is a Carhartt rain defender hoodie. No goretex unless im ripping actual snow.
 
14580313:Voyage86 said:
bro what, 15 degrees is still 15 degrees. absolutely ridiculous statement.

sam’s club thermal and any insulated jacket will cover it, i ski there 40 days a year and it’s unnecessary. im not saying dont get it, if i could be in full arc’teryx i would, its just not needed, and it doesn’t help that these guys are usually not super rippers
 
14580353:bootspace said:
sam’s club thermal and any insulated jacket will cover it, i ski there 40 days a year and it’s unnecessary. im not saying dont get it, if i could be in full arc’teryx i would, its just not needed, and it doesn’t help that these guys are usually not super rippers

ok then it’s never necessary no matter where you ski. the midwest can get the same harsh weather as anywhere els. why would an expensive coat be necessary for a colorado 15 degrees and not a midwest 15 degrees. and so to anyone out west wearing an expensive jacket, your wasting your money, sams club thermal and a costco puffer will keep you warm in -20
 
14580360:Voyage86 said:
ok then it’s never necessary no matter where you ski. the midwest can get the same harsh weather as anywhere els. why would an expensive coat be necessary for a colorado 15 degrees and not a midwest 15 degrees. and so to anyone out west wearing an expensive jacket, your wasting your money, sams club thermal and a costco puffer will keep you warm in -20

In the PNW where it hovers around freezing and rains a lot on the ski hill a good coat with nice waterproof membranes are very helpful. You could always wear a hefty bag or one of those clear ones from the dry cleaner. Also skiing in knee deep or deeper pow the snow gets everywhere, it's why they make powder skirts and onesies and all that.
 
14580373:Non_State_Actor said:
In the PNW where it hovers around freezing and rains a lot on the ski hill a good coat with nice waterproof membranes are very helpful. You could always wear a hefty bag or one of those clear ones from the dry cleaner. Also skiing in knee deep or deeper pow the snow gets everywhere, it's why they make powder skirts and onesies and all that.

a poncho or two should do you just fine out there. stop wasting your money on silly rain jackets. so unnecessary
 
Tell me youve never skied PNW without actually telling me.

Heres a little lesson on layering- its not the cold that makes you cold, its the wet. If you sweat a lot and that has no way to escape, then you get cold. If you ski deep, wet, snow, and you get soaking wet, you will be freezing cold. Thats why i can stay warm any pow day with a just a base layer and a gore tex shell.

would i be warm if i start the day warm in a base later and a cheap puffy, and a thick hoodie? Yeah. Would i be freezing my butt off on the chairlift because i just got soaked from some pow shots? Absolutely.

Ive had many days where my shells kept me dry and therefore warm. But ive also had many days ripping night laps or hitting park where a hoodies worked just fine :)

Think of it this way- you and i go ski the midwest on the coldest day of the year. (excluding the UP). I wear a hoodie and maybe a puffy over my base layer. Then we go ski somewhere PNW on a warm pow day. You wear a hoodie and il wear a shell. We will see who is happier at the end of the day.

14580360:Voyage86 said:
ok then it’s never necessary no matter where you ski. the midwest can get the same harsh weather as anywhere els. why would an expensive coat be necessary for a colorado 15 degrees and not a midwest 15 degrees. and so to anyone out west wearing an expensive jacket, your wasting your money, sams club thermal and a costco puffer will keep you warm in -20
 
14580390:hamsauce said:
Tell me youve never skied PNW without actually telling me.

Heres a little lesson on layering- its not the cold that makes you cold, its the wet. If you sweat a lot and that has no way to escape, then you get cold. If you ski deep, wet, snow, and you get soaking wet, you will be freezing cold. Thats why i can stay warm any pow day with a just a base layer and a gore tex shell.

would i be warm if i start the day warm in a base later and a cheap puffy, and a thick hoodie? Yeah. Would i be freezing my butt off on the chairlift because i just got soaked from some pow shots? Absolutely.

Ive had many days where my shells kept me dry and therefore warm. But ive also had many days ripping night laps or hitting park where a hoodies worked just fine :)

Think of it this way- you and i go ski the midwest on the coldest day of the year. (excluding the UP). I wear a hoodie and maybe a puffy over my base layer. Then we go ski somewhere PNW on a warm pow day. You wear a hoodie and il wear a shell. We will see who is happier at the end of the day.

i’m kind of confused how “600$ jacket” got translated into “gortex jacket.” of course you need a good waterproof shell to stay warm when it’s raining. Guess what, this year in wisconsin i’ve been skiing 4 times this season when it was 33 degrees and raining. do i then not need an expensive gortex jacket because the mountain im skiing on is 300 feet???? please let me know.
 
Big difference between Arcteryx and an entry level goretex

14580436:Voyage86 said:
i’m kind of confused how “600$ jacket” got translated into “gortex jacket.” of course you need a good waterproof shell to stay warm when it’s raining. Guess what, this year in wisconsin i’ve been skiing 4 times this season when it was 33 degrees and raining. do i then not need an expensive gortex jacket because the mountain im skiing on is 300 feet???? please let me know.
 
14580496:hamsauce said:
Big difference between Arcteryx and an entry level goretex

alr man, this argument is about you trying to prove why skiing on a small mountain means you don’t need expensive gear. not sure why you took it here.
 
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