Moment DW 104

Anyone have any experience with the Deathwish 104? I haven't seen too many reviews or opinions on them but I'm pretty interested in them for my next pair of skis. I've heard they're a little stiffer and I've always wondered how the triple camber skis. Any info or experience on them would be sick.

**This thread was edited on Mar 16th 2022 at 9:55:12am
 
Fire on the mountain in Dover will have more next year we sold out of them in like 2 weeks. [tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] could probably answer this better than me but it’s a badass ski, really solid for somewhere like the east coast. Mount is -6 compared to the regular Deathwish 112 and I believe the 104 is a bit stiffer as well, if I remember correctly the idea was to create a ski with the dna of the Deathwish and the ski ability of the triple camber in a stronger more hard pack oriented package. Super fun, very versatile, would absolutely recommend for someone who doesn’t want a wet spaghetti noodle ski but still wants to have fun
 
14413907:vermontana said:
TGR thread

14414176:animator said:
[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag]

Some quick takes from some TGR members:

2FUNKY: Hopped on my first Moment ski this weekend at the INW meat up.

Skied the Deathwish 104. Holy crap that ski is a riot! Skied it in a myriad of conditions and had a blast in all of them. Never skied a ski so center mounted yet really enjoyed it. Its super light and could only imagine what a heavier DW with metal would ski like. Total destroyer I bet.

The feed back was a little more than I prefer on firmer surfaces or mixed bag surfaces but not a total deal breaker.

Would bang again.

Kevo: First day for me on DW104 today.

I'm 5'11", 200 lbs. I ski the DW, DWT and Wildcat in 190cm lengths.

I got a pair of DW 104s in 190cm as well. I mounted on the line with Pivots.

Couple thoughts-

Today was a shitty, dust on crust day. It was in the 40s this week and now it's below freezing with 2 inches of new snow. So, refrozen mank and slop set up hard with dust on top.

I'm very glad I didn't go short. The DW104 are easy and intuitive to turn. I think I would be bummed if I was on the 184 unless I lived on the east coast.

I detuned tails a little and they have the same carve if you want to, pivot if you want to feel of the DW, but they are a little bit stiffer, so it takes a little bit more energy to get them to bend into a tighter turn radius. This also means they are a bit more composed at speed than the regular DW. All in all a good thing for hard snow conditions IMHO.

Edge to edge is way quicker. My DW are mounted with Shifts, my DW 104s are mounted with pivot 12s and are way lighter. They feel very maneuverable.

They are up the shitty snow I was skiing today. They wanted to bend around the chunks of refrozen mank and into bumps when skiing moguls, which absorbed energy and smoothed out the ride.

I sold my "groomer" skis today right after skiing the DW 104 for the first time. There's nothing else I'd rather be on in firm snow for poking around on groomers and in trees and bumps and the mini terrain features of my home mountain.

DW104- turn the mountain into a playground and you can still carve GS turns on hard snow. That's a perfect combo for me for a low tide ski.
 
[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] how would changing the mounting point effect the performance of the ski? I’m curious because it says its rearward at -6. I’m not sure how it would change how it skis with the triple camber. Would it make a huge change if it was mounted at something like -3 or -4? It might not make a big deal but the triple camber is different from any other skis.
 
14415865:AsherDonati24 said:
[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] how would changing the mounting point effect the performance of the ski? I’m curious because it says its rearward at -6. I’m not sure how it would change how it skis with the triple camber. Would it make a huge change if it was mounted at something like -3 or -4? It might not make a big deal but the triple camber is different from any other skis.

If you're going for a super park inspired mount / performance you could consider going up to -4cm. With that said, one of our athletes hopped on a pair for a shoot at Boreal and mounted at -4 and did not get along with it as well as he did at the rec -6. Might come down to personal preference, but he generally mounts a tad forward on other models like the Wildcat series.

I haven't messed with the mount point on the DW104 yet personally.
 
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