ya except you can do a double off a 50 foot jump no problem, but you need at least a 100 footer to do a hucked triple, just way to much spinning if you ask me, they are just dipping into the 3 cork by the time they are at the knuckle, and sending it all they down the landing, and still it looks like they are forcing the spin trying to get it around in time, you might be right, or a body just cannot spin that fast in that small amount of time