Marker Schizo Binding

henry42894

henry42894

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I know there are a million of these threads but i wanted a slightly more personal answer. I'm looking at either the jesters or griffons for my skis (which is a question in itself) but are the schizos worth the extra money? hows the durability? will they mount to any ski? etc. Im 6'2", 210 lbs, advanced skier, mostly gonna be used for park and all mtn on the east coast so what do you guys recommend? Thanks! +K for good info
 
If you've got a midfat ski and plan to ski literally everywhere on the mountain in every condition possible (as you mentioned), these are the bindings for you. I have a pair of Griffon Schizos on my 2010 K2 Kung Fujas and they work like a dream. They're a great binding if you want to have a one-ski quiver.

They will mount to any ski, but K2 factory skis come with pre-drilled "Schizofrantic Inserts". These are basically just threaded holes inserted into the ski that make it easy enough to mount the bindings yourself. However, if you choose not to use these holes, the beauty is that the structural integrity of the ski is not compromised.

The durability is practically spoken for: Schizos are designed off the same reputable Royal Family toe and heel pieces. Mine have held up just fine to skiing all over the mountain and landing hard switch in the park. If you're going to be taking massive switch hits and 450ing onto rails in the park, I would recommend a fixed-mount binding (like the regular Jester or Griffon).

The only thing you have to be careful of is sliding the binding too far forward or back. This is easily avoided by the clear markings on the platform (stop, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, stop). Also, if you anticipate that you will grow and your boot size will increase, you can adjust the binding accordingly, but you compromise the full 6cm of back-and-forth movement. If you don't want that to happen, basically the only option is to remount so you can still get that full 6cm range of adjustment.

Another minor setback is the weight. They feel a lot heavier than conventional bindings, but I have gotten used to it (plus I also ride Hellbents with Dukes - how's that for heavy?!). It shouldn't be too big a deal, really. If you plan to do some sidecountry stuff at all, I would recommend putting them on a pack. It helps distribute the weight better and is just all around more comfortable than tiring out one shoulder. I love my pack for carrying my Kung Fujas and Hellbents. But I digress...

Bottom line:

If you're looking to achieve a one-ski quiver, 49% of your choice lies in the ski and 51% lies in the binding. Get the Marker Griffon Schizo and make the most of it. Its convenience, durability and ease of use will not disappoint. I was a little skeptical too before I bought mine, but I'm a firm believer now.
 
Thanks! So I was gonna mount these on a more park dedicated ski, but my question now is should I take the griffons I have on my mid fat move them to the park ski and put the schizos on the mid fat? Or since I already have the mid fat mounted recommended should I just buy griffons mount em center?
 
In that case, I would say it's totally your preference. If money is a major concern, then I would say just keep your regular Griffons on your midfats and just get a second pair to mount center on your park skis. That way you'll be covered for both park and all mountain riding.

If you can, though, having the Schizos on any pair of skis is great. If you put the Schizos on your park skis, it's only to your benefit to have that adjustability just in case you happen to leave your midfats at home and it starts to puke in the middle of the day -- you can just turn the screw, move the binding back, and get face shots all day.

Essentially what I'm trying to say is that since you've got an all mountain ski and a park ski, you would be just as well off with conventional bindings. If you get Schizos, it's like icing on the cake. Whether you want to add that icing is entirely up to you.

Good luck and enjoy whatever setup you go with! I'm sure you will whether you choose the regular Griffons or Schizos.
 
Thanks man you've been really helpful! I think I'm just gonna save the $100 and just buy some griffons and mount em center
 
Good advice skilaxride429!

You're a pretty big dude, and you stated that you're advanced, so I would go with a 14 din binding. I recommend the look pivot 14/rossignol fks 140 (same binding). If you want to save money, as it doesn't grow on trees, check out the look px14 and salomon sth14 with the driver toe piece. That's all I can do for you, I'd let the ski techs adjust the bindings for you once they are mounted.
 
Good advice skilaxride429!

You're a pretty big dude, and you stated that you're advanced, so I would go with a 14 din binding. I recommend the look pivot 14/rossignol fks 140 (same binding). If you want to save money, as it doesn't grow on trees, check out the look px14 and salomon sth14 with the driver toe piece. That's all I can do for you, I'd let the ski techs adjust the bindings for you once they are mounted.
 
I'm 6'0" 160lbs and the din on my Schizos is at 7, as per my local shop. The guys at whatever shop you go to should be able to guide you in the right direction as far as din settings go. But really din is just as much a personal preference as mounting point is....
 
imo the schizo's are worth it on a all mountain/ pow ski because you have the ability to move em a little bit so on a pow you can go 3 cm back on hard pack groomers you can go a little forward but the jesters will work fine. you din is gonna be up there amigo, here's what your looking at, based on your height, weight, and age (which im guessing on to be about 20's or late teens) your gonna be up there in din setting. Here are your options, they all depend on your boot size, if your boot is between 271-290 mm (about size 23-25) you bindings are gonna be set at 10

291-310 mm (about size 25-27) your bindings are gonna be set at 9.5

311-330 mm (about size 27-29) your bindings are gonna be set at 8.5

anything bigger than 330mm(size 29-30) your gonna be set at a 8

if you don't know where your boot size in mm is just look on the side of the heel piece of your boot (outside heel piece, so the side the buckles are on) it should say like 330mm. pm me if you have any questions on din, i'd be more then happy to help ya out! hope this essay helps!
 
IGNORE ALL DIN RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS THREAD!!!!! GO TO A SHOP AND GET IT DONE PROPERLY!!! Don't risk it, or you might kill a knee.
 
sorry but shops ruin your knee by setting the din for you. its all about how hard you ride. i ride at 14 with my schizo's. if im fuckin around in the little park ill ride at 12
 
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