Marker Jigs Being off?

HuckNorris44

HuckNorris44

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So this is more for the ones working at a shop or have worked at a shop.

Earlier this winter, a guy noticed that his Jesters were just slightly off center on his Opus. We measured and they were about .3 mm off. The more i looked into the issue, i noticed that the Jig was off on any ski that is over 120mm under waist. The toe piece was pushed slightly to the right side. We told marker about it and got them to send us a brand new jig. Got the new jig in and it does the exact same thing. Its off on larger waist skis. Its very marginal but still off.

Has anyone else experienced this issue with Marker jigs?
 
I dont work at a shop but i got my magic j's mounted a few weeks ago with jesters and i noticed the exact same thing! But it is so small that it probably wont affect my skiing so, but glad to know im not just going insane.
 
Interested to know how someone either noticed or cared about 0.3mm

Seriously, it's 0.3mm. Less than a third of a millimetre. How did you even measure it, a calliper or something? The jig isn't a precision piece of equipment, I'm not surprised it's out by that much - there's probably 0.3mm of play in the bindings, or at least that much flex in the plastic anyway.

I thought maybe it was the plastic feet on the jig but if it was the feet, every mount would be offset. Seems weird, but I'd be very willing to say it doesn't matter. Look at the old Atomic Powder Plus for reference...
 
13272840:rozboon said:
Interested to know how someone either noticed or cared about 0.3mm

Seriously, it's 0.3mm. Less than a third of a millimetre. How did you even measure it, a calliper or something? The jig isn't a precision piece of equipment, I'm not surprised it's out by that much - there's probably 0.3mm of play in the bindings, or at least that much flex in the plastic anyway.

I thought maybe it was the plastic feet on the jig but if it was the feet, every mount would be offset. Seems weird, but I'd be very willing to say it doesn't matter. Look at the old Atomic Powder Plus for reference...
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I mean its pretty easy to notice for someone who really looks over their skis after mounting, so not saying it matters but op was being cautious as a shop tech and props to him for taking thr intiative to contact marker and notice this problem. Its a valid point and although it may not much matter at .3 mm it may become more of a problem eventually so.
 
13273050:B.Quincy said:
I mean its pretty easy to notice for someone who really looks over their skis after mounting, so not saying it matters but op was being cautious as a shop tech and props to him for taking thr intiative to contact marker and notice this problem. Its a valid point and although it may not much matter at .3 mm it may become more of a problem eventually so.
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Pretty easy to notice?

I understand you may not use the metric system on a daily basis so let me do a conversion for you - we're talking about approximately 1/100th of an inch.

If you could look at 2 objects, one being 2 inches wide and one being 2 and 1/100ths inches wide and "pretty easily" tell me by eye that they were different I'd be pretty damn impressed.

Another form of measurement that could be used to represent 0.3mm in this context is "three fifths of fuck-all" which also measures exactly how much of a difference it will actually make.

I mean yes it's an oddity and good on OP for noticing, but if we're honest the combined slop of the drillbit + bearing + tolerances in the screws and binding probably add up to a similar amount.
 
Yeah, 0.3 mm is not an issue. Are you sure you're measuring out 0.3 mm? This is equivalent to the thickness of six sheets of paper. Humans couldn't even notice that difference visually in terms of toepiece mounts.
 
Measure your jigs regularly by marking a centre hole at the front of back on an old ski) and calibrate with layers duct tape on the feet. Slightwright's paper centre guide is very good for this. Make sure everyone in your shop knows to tell you about any dropped jigs so you can check those immediately.
 
13275489:Boax said:
Measure your jigs regularly by marking a centre hole at the front of back on an old ski) and calibrate with layers duct tape on the feet. Slightwright's paper centre guide is very good for this. Make sure everyone in your shop knows to tell you about any dropped jigs so you can check those immediately.
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We do this on our jigs for older bindings and demo bindings. But in all honesty, why the fuck should you need to "calibrate" a brand new jig. The first one was sent to us in the fall? More just amazes me that a company that sells as many bindings as Marker, cant come up with a jig that works. You shouldnt need to "fix" or rig something that is brand new.
 
13276337:Gnarco said:
We do this on our jigs for older bindings and demo bindings. But in all honesty, why the fuck should you need to "calibrate" a brand new jig. The first one was sent to us in the fall? More just amazes me that a company that sells as many bindings as Marker, cant come up with a jig that works. You shouldnt need to "fix" or rig something that is brand new.
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^ this, all of you who are saying that you shouldnt notice and shit its not that problem that is the concern of this thread, its the fact that marker jigs are off from the day they are made.
 
OP needs to go back and measure the distances between the holes on the jig, and the feet of the jig, then compare them all. You can't get an accurate measurement of how far the jig is off by taking a measurement from a mounted binding. As Roz said the mounted binding will have been affected by all of the slop between the drill bit and the jig, and the binding and the screws.
 
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